Two New Devices from Apple: Category Defining 'Media Pad' and 'iPhone Lite'?

Tablet - Data-only connection to Verizon, AT&T etc.

I think the iPhone will stay exclusive to AT&T, but the tablet (which I call the NetPad) is another story. I think it will not do voice calls, but it will make data-only connections over various carriers like AT&T and (in another model) Verizon.

That's what the Verizon talks are about - setting up rates for data-only connections. No voice, VOIP over WiFi only, but you can surf your hearts out!

My full article about this is here.
 
Funny, Im the only one of my friends that get service in my friends basement, even in the tile walled bathroom. Im the only one with verizon.


Go figure.

How many people are you calling from the bathroom? I'm don't think that's an important feature in the AT&T vs Verizon battle.
 
Personally I don't see much point in watching HD films on anything less than a 20" display, but I can imagine Apple releasing such a device to drive up their HD content sales. HD was meant for large displays after all because current SD content looked poor on them.

As for an iPhone Lite? Count me in. I like that the current iPhone does everything ever, but if a Lite version was a lot smaller and only had the basic of features (phone, iPod, SMS, email etc) then I'd probably opt for that. So long as it had a tethering option so I could use my MacBook online anywhere (in signal range :p).
 
I think the iPhone will stay exclusive to AT&T, but the tablet (which I call the NetPad) is another story. I think it will not do voice calls, but it will make data-only connections over various carriers like AT&T and (in another model) Verizon.

That's what the Verizon talks are about - setting up rates for data-only connections. No voice, VOIP over WiFi only, but you can surf your hearts out!

My full article about this is here.

I left a fuller comment on your blog but essentially I think you are on the mark with this one.
 
there is no way apple would release this ipad device to verizion only. Obviously it requires some sort of data plan. Do you really think Apple would really make it impossible for all the ATT customers to get in on the ipad? Unless it was a totally separate plan and was the same cost for verizon phone users and ATT users alike. Would just be bad business otherwise.
 
IMHO this is great news for all iPhone users. In my area of Duluth GA, I dont have a problem getting signal for phone calls anywhere other than my apartment, more specifically, in my room :( My 3g is somewhat lacking at work but everywhere else its pretty good. I can see why Verizon's coverage is nice, but I just look at it as a win win for everyone. I love AT&T (I know, blasphemous right? :rolleyes:). They've always been pretty helpful and the coverage is acceptable. In the end everyone wins. Its all about competition. With another company around to steal AT&T's thunder, they'll have no choice but to up their network and maybe even lower their monthly rates! :eek: One can hope...
 
"The other is a media pad that would let users listen to music, view photos, and watch high-definition videos, the person says. It would place calls over a Wi-Fi connection."

wow...sounds amazing....anybody hear of the iPod touch?
 
The Apple media pad is said to be smaller than Amazon's Kindle ebook reader but its touchscreen is bigger than the Kindle's. The source predicts that this new product will be a category defining breakthrough device:

"The media pad category might go to Verizon," said the person who has seen the device. "We are talking about a device where people will say, 'Damn, why didn't we do this?' Apple is probably going to define the damn category."
I'm not surprised. This is basically the mini-tablet I've been thinking, besides the Verizon bit. I don't want a contract…

I wonder if they mean smaller screen too, or if they just killed the bezel and made it skinnier?
A slightly smaller display plus a very thin bezel could mean the whole device could be as small as the current iPhone's display.


- Runs OS X (not OS X iPhone)

I just want something I can take to work and listen to music, or watch movies on. I don't need it to run Photoshop. Just something I can use on the couch to surf the internet without having to set up my MacBook Pro.

Yes, I know I can watch movies and listen to music on an iPhone, but this is for someone who needs a bigger screen. The iPhone is great, but the screen is very small for movies and web surfing.
You realize you can do those with a 10" iPod touch, right?

Why does everyone want to call this an "iPhone Lite?" A bunch of us keep getting the uber flames in the iPhone forum to suggest than an "iPhone Nano" would be released at some point and/or would be a good product. All the spankers that couldn't see the needs past their own may be in for a little "told ya so."
I guess it depends on the definition of an "iPhone nano"…and you might want to hold your "told ya so"s until if and when it's actually released, to avoid disappointment. ;)

10" display rumor? I'm not too surprised, 10" almost seems too big for iPhone OS…
 
Verizon Said to Be in Talks for the iPhone
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By MATT RICHTEL
Published: April 27, 2009
SAN FRANCISCO — The iPhone may be poised to shake up the cellphone industry a second time.

Apple, the maker of the popular smartphone, is conducting high-level discussions with Verizon Wireless to sell a version of the iPhone that would work on Verizon’s network, according to a person briefed on the negotiations. The phone could be available as soon as next year.

The person, who requested anonymity because the deal isn’t completed, said discussions between top company executives intensified two weeks ago.

The iPhone presently is available exclusively on AT&T’s wireless network. That arrangement has lured millions of new customers to AT&T and lifted the company’s revenue in a recession.

The iPhone’s touch screen, GPS capabilities and 25,000 or so downloadable applications made it an instant hit. It has energized competitors who make look-alikes and given hope to device makers and wireless carriers that fretted over where to find growth in a market in which many adults already own a cellphone.

But while its exclusivity has certainly added to its desirability, it also limited Apple’s market for the popular phone. Were Verizon to begin offering the iPhone — whether exclusively or as a competitor to AT&T — it would be a significant development in the increasingly important battle for smartphone users, said Roger Entner, an industry analyst with Nielsen AIG. It would give Verizon, which sells Samsung, Palm and BlackBerry smartphones, another device to lure subscribers who do not prefer the AT&T network.

“The iPhone turned AT&T into a serious competitor now neck-in-neck with Verizon,” he said. If Verizon gets a contract to sell the iPhone, he said, “it will be another major shift.”

Jeffrey Nelson, a spokesman for Verizon Wireless, declined to comment on whether Verizon and Apple were talking. An Apple spokeswoman said that the company was “very happy” with its relationship with AT&T.

“AT&T is a very good partner,” said the spokeswoman, Natalie Kerris. “We have no plans to change the relationship.”

She declined to comment on discussions between Apple and Verizon Wireless.

In a recently quarterly conference call with investors, Tim Cook, Apple’s chief operating officer, cast some doubt on the prospect of an imminent deal with Verizon. He said that Apple was wary of building a phone for a network using C.D.M.A. technology — which Verizon’s current network uses — because, Mr. Cook said, the C.D.M.A. infrastructure may have a short life span.

Verizon, however, is moving to a new network in 2010 that would not rely on C.D.M.A technology. Verizon has said previously that even as it deploys its new network, it plans to retain its C.D.M.A. network for a time to transmit voice communications.

The person who had been briefed on discussions between Verizon and Apple said that it was not out of the question that Apple could build an iPhone for the current network.

Apple has not publicly disclosed the financial terms of its deal with AT&T or the duration of its exclusive deal, which began in 2007. Some industry analysts say they believe the arrangement ends in 2010.

Mark Siegel, a spokesman from AT&T, said the company was thrilled with its partnership with Apple. But he had no comment on the company’s own discussions with Apple about extending its arrangement. He said he had no comment on the discussions between Verizon and Apple.

AT&T’s most recent financial quarter showed the influence of the phone on its business. During that first quarter, AT&T said it activated 1.6 million new iPhones — more than 40 percent of them new to AT&T. During that period, AT&T had 1.2 million overall net subscriber additions, indicating that iPhones made a considerable impact on the company’s ability to grow, Mr. Entner said.

“Without the iPhone, their performance in the first quarter would have been worse than T-Mobile’s,” Mr. Entner said.

Verizon has done fine without the iPhone. It added 1.3 million customers in the first three months of the year, though many came from its acquisition of Alltel. Revenue rose 30 percent to $15.1 billion in the first quarter.

Verizon Communications, which owns Verizon Wireless in a joint venture with Vodafone, reported Monday that its net income grew 5 percent in the first quarter to $3.21 billion, or 58 cents a share, from $3.05 billion, or 57 cents a share, a year ago. Revenue rose almost 12 percent to $26.6 billion.

Doing business with Apple does carry a cost. Ed Snyder, an analyst with Charter Equity Research, said that AT&T has spent around $2 billion to subsidize the cost of the iPhones — selling them to consumers well below what it pays Apple for the phones. AT&T does not get a share of revenue from the iPhone App Store.

Further, Mr. Snyder said, the phones put heavy stress on the AT&T network because iPhone users tend to send and receive data more heavily than users of other phones.

That heavy use has its upside. Mr. Entner said that the typical iPhone user generates for AT&T around $85 in revenue a month, 40 percent more than users of other phones.

“It’s been a net plus,” Mr. Snyder said of AT&T’s relationship with Apple. “But it’s been more of a mixed blessing than most people view it as.”

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i would buy a verizon LTE media pad....unfortunately verizon would charge like $50 a month and have all sorts of vcast crap on it.
 
...And I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to see the iPhone go Verizon, too. I'm on AT&T and will probably stay there, but competition between the two firms might make AT&T stop being the cocky little pr*cks that they are and ONLY caring at all about their iPhone customers. I have a Samsung Eternity (very nice phone) but it is pitifully crippled just so that people will buy an iPhone instead. Kind of sad, really...

So your Samsung phone is bad because of the iPhone? No - I think your Samsung phone is bad because of Samsung, but that's really just me. You obviously know that Apple and AT&T are at fault for crippling your Samsung phone, so you keep telling yourself that. :)
 
there is no way apple would release this ipad device to verizion only. Obviously it requires some sort of data plan. Do you really think Apple would really make it impossible for all the ATT customers to get in on the ipad? Unless it was a totally separate plan and was the same cost for verizon phone users and ATT users alike. Would just be bad business otherwise.

Don't be so sure :)

Apple has already demonstrated that they're willing to make bad business decisions by allowing the original iPhones to be exclusive to ATT.

Making a pad exclusive to Verizon's LTE network would be just the same.

Besides, then we could have years of threads titled "Is the Pad coming to ATT?"
 
well well well. I certainly hope Apple does not screw over all the people like myself who ditched Verizon just to have the iPhone by offering Verizon-exclusive devices. If Apple ever offers a device to Verizon users that it does not also offer to AT&T users, it would be such a disrespectful and outrageous slap in the face to all iPhone owners who switched to support Apple.
 
Hey Apple, Inspector Gadget's Penny called and said she's gonna sue your ass off if you try to sell this "new" device.
 

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Don't be so sure :)

Apple has already demonstrated that they're willing to make bad business decisions by allowing the original iPhones to be exclusive to ATT.

Making a pad exclusive to Verizon's LTE network would be just the same.

Besides, then we could have years of threads titled "Is the Pad coming to ATT?"

I wouldnt worry about it, lets not forget that not too long ago when the ATT CEO was hinting at a new Iphone for June release he also mentioned them getting a "netbook" not running Windows...im pretty sure he wasn't all excited over a linux netbook... :cool:
 
iphone lite just sounds like a ipod touch ? ? ? ?

why would apple talk to Verizon about an ipod

Agree. iPod touch with VOIP basically. Maybe it will come with free access to Verizon hotspots, wherever they have those. Avoids the need for either a CDMA chip or an LTE chip + buildout.
 
to me it seams kinda weird how apple has ATT for the iphone, and verizon for the media pad. That kinda makes me think: maybe apple is talking to all the carriers for this media pad and future ipods?
 
Agree. iPod touch with VOIP basically. Maybe it will come with free access to Verizon hotspots, wherever they have those. Avoids the need for either a CDMA chip or an LTE chip + buildout.

I've never seen a Verizon hotspot...only at&t.

Completely separate from your post...

I think people are going to be disappointed. All these rumors seem to be piggy-backing each other and seem too correct. Seems a bit suspicious if you ask me...
 
Did anyone notice this?

I don't know if some one has said it before, but Apple has registered www.iphonenano.com , as it redirects to the iPhone page on Apple's website. Also, maybe such an iPhone nano could be a way to sidestep their exclusivity agreement with ATT? And last, does anyone else remember that Apple posted a job listings for CDMA / EVDO engineers a year back http://9to5mac.com/cdma-iphone-verizon-sprint (it's listed in that article). Just some thoughts.
 

I could see a device like this being the "media pad" however it allows users to dock their iphone on the pad and it effectively becomes the "home phone"

-the pad would be able to sync contacts from the iphone to the device to populate the address book
-it would also sync photos, music etc from the iphone on to the pad
-wifi access for widgets (perhaps safari as well)
-isight camera built in for video calling/pictures
-backups up data on time capsule
-built in speaker- music can be streamed to the media pad
-can send growl notifications to your macbook when you receive a call/text
-can access media from mobile me accounts
 
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