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I wonder why they still burn so much money for new generations each year? Even the 2017 iPads run just fine, the average customer does not mind if they would stop for two or three years until the next iPad comes out.

Let’s be honest, mobile tech has become boring and is just a tool nowadays. Nobody cares any longer what brand you use or what tech specs your phone/tablet has.

I totally agree..

I still completely love my original 9.7" iPad Pro.
Does everything I care for and is lighting quick to me...
 
I disagree, I think a redesigned home screen for the iPad, tabbed apps, and an updated Files app is improvement. I am sure there will be some other additions we don't know of also. I haven't had any interface bugs with iOS 12 on my 10.5 or 11 Pro, so I can't really speak to that. Have you experienced all of these issues with your iPad (bending, screen issues, touch responsiveness issues)?

I have both the aforementioned screen issues and responsiveness issues. The first one is definitely hardware (I will look into getting my device replaced as soon as I am able to, but that is probably in a couple of months). The second one, I do not know, it is hard to troubleshoot, it seems to come and go.

Regarding to iOS, I agree adding Files was an improvement, but it is still pretty crippled, and that was iOS 11. Sharing files across apps still looks like a pain. I would expect much much more to be satisfied. How about iOS 12 ? I cannot cite anything that made me say "wow, glad I got the update".
 
I have both the aforementioned screen issues and responsiveness issues. The first one is definitely hardware (I will look into getting my device replaced as soon as I am able to, but that is probably in a couple of months). The second one, I do not know, it is hard to troubleshoot, it seems to come and go.

Regarding to iOS, I agree adding Files was an improvement, but it is still pretty crippled, and that was iOS 11. Sharing files across apps still looks like a pain. I would expect much much more to be satisfied. How about iOS 12 ? I cannot cite anything that made me say "wow, glad I got the update".

While I definitely don't doubt that you have the issues, I personally don't feel it should be applied to an overall blanket statement that Apple's quality is bad today. Hopefully you can get it replaced and be good to go. Apple is usually pretty good when it comes to this sort of thing. Well iOS 12 was originally supposed to have all of the rumored iPad specific features of iOS 13, but those features were pushed out to focus on performance. I was more than happy with a performance focused update though as iOS does everything I need it to currently. I think iOS 13 will be step in the right direction for the iPad.
 
You didn't read that entire post, did you?
I did. But you made several points in your post. I only had a comment on one of them.

Just because your preferred solution isn't the one I suggested doesn't mean that my suggestion isn't a valid solution to the problem that a newly purchased iPhone and a newly purchased MacBook cannot be connected to each other without buying an extra cable.
 
I wonder why they still burn so much money for new generations each year? Even the 2017 iPads run just fine, the average customer does not mind if they would stop for two or three years until the next iPad comes out.

Let’s be honest, mobile tech has become boring and is just a tool nowadays. Nobody cares any longer what brand you use or what tech specs your phone/tablet has.
Gotta sell units every year for wall street, man!
 
That’s why iPad Pro prices need to drop, which was my point.

Yea...I don’t think it will. Maybe about $100, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. I’m inclined to believe larger sized consumer iPads (10.2”) will come in at higher prices to accommodate. Just look at what they did with the XR. It increased the entry level price on the iPhone.
 
Yea...I don’t think it will. Maybe about $100, but I wouldn’t hold my breath. I’m inclined to believe larger sized consumer iPads (10.2”) will come in at higher prices to accommodate. Just look at what they did with the XR. It increased the entry level price on the iPhone.
So far I have refused to buy the iPad Pros, iPhone X, XS, and XS Max. Way overpriced. Their loss.

Angela Ahrendts' probable influence at Apple to promote luxury pricing didn't go over so well with consumers, and she's out now.
 
People that keep saying "focus on software"... while I agree, do you think that they are not? They release a new OS every year and iOS 13 is rumored to have a big iPad focus. If you're expecting iOS on the iPad to become macOS, I wouldn't hold your breath. It will just be a better iOS.
I think people just want to see a more dramatic overhaul than the incremental updates we've seen to date - make iOS Pro for the iPad pros to run, bring in mouse support, floating window functionality, multiple instances of apps, a more powerful version of files etc. Don't port MacOS to iPad, but give iPad some of the functionality to make it appeal to more people as a MacBook replacement.
 
I think people just want to see a more dramatic overhaul than the incremental updates we've seen to date - make iOS Pro for the iPad pros to run, bring in mouse support, floating window functionality, multiple instances of apps, a more powerful version of files etc. Don't port MacOS to iPad, but give iPad some of the functionality to make it appeal to more people as a MacBook replacement.

That's fair and I totally agree - I'd love all of what you mention.
 
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Dude, Apple couldn’t make a more confusing product lineup if they tried. Starting to remind me of Samsung or LG.

Yeah, i know,

I am really disappointed with Apple they are releasing another new size.
How much money will R&D costs just to release a new slightly bigger iPad ? I wished Apple would rerelease the 10.5 inch iPad Pro Reduce the price and make it $449. No new parts, casings, etc. just a price reduction.

If apple is releasing a new size, they should make a new 9 inch iPad Pro with the same design as the current 11 and 12.9 inch pro, small bezels, faceid, 120 hz for $599.

So confusing... the path Apple has taken. Please streamline the line-up please.
 
All we need now is some confusing naming to go with it all!

Get your iPad mini or perhaps you'd like an iPad mini plus?
What about an iPad mini plus pro?
 
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Still have two of the original 12.9 IPPs. Not seeing anything here that makes us want to upgrade. My pencil does its job 3+ years later along with batteries for all devices. My son’s iPad Air 2 still works and holds a good charge 4 years later with daily use of about 4-6 hours. They used to build these things like tanks. Nowadays, I seriously have doubts.
 
Yeah, i know,

I am really disappointed with Apple they are releasing another new size.
How much money will R&D costs just to release a new slightly bigger iPad ? I wished Apple would rerelease the 10.5 inch iPad Pro Reduce the price and make it $449. No new parts, casings, etc. just a price reduction.

If apple is releasing a new size, they should make a new 9 inch iPad Pro with the same design as the current 11 and 12.9 inch pro, small bezels, faceid, 120 hz for $599.

So confusing... the path Apple has taken. Please streamline the line-up please.

Agree......Everytime they release new sizes, the apps have to be re-formatted for the new size.....some of us with the 11 inch ipad pro still are waiting for certain apps and games to fill the entire screen.
 
You must only own old Apple products then.

Let me run a scenario with you:

You buy a brand new iPad, a brand new iPhone, and a brand new MacBook Pro. You take everything home and you're super excited to open it all! You grab your iPhone cable to plug into your new computer, but guess what? You can't even plug your new iPad or iPhone into your shiny new MacBook. Why? Because the MacBook has USB-C, and the iPhone does not.

So now you have to spend even more money -- for no good reason -- to buy two new Lightning to USB-C cables: one for your iPad and one for your iPhone. These two new cables now let you plug your phone into your laptop. Yay! Except... Every time you try plug one of these cables into your device, you realize that you accidentally grabbed the wrong end of the cable so it won't plug in. You didn't notice that you grabbed the wrong end at first because USB-C and Lightning are almost the exact same size. So now you're frustrated with yourself because if these two ports are essentially the exact same size, WHY aren't they just the same?? And now you struggle to understand what possible reason could cause Apple to make devices that have almost the exact same ports as each other, but not actually the same ports. You think and think and think, but can't come up with an actual reason. Because there isn't one.

Except wait, there is a reason! It's just not a good one. And here it is: Apple makes a little bit more money by forcing you to buy extra cables, and to buy special "Made for iPhone" certified Lightning accessories. In essence, Apple is profiting off of your inconvenience. The whole "everything just works" philosophy is dead.

But it's 2019, and people have woken up. We now understand that this is what Apple has been doing, and we're fed up with it. We just want products that work together, like they SHOULD. There's not one single good reason for products to have "almost" the same port as each other, but not actually the same port. It only serves as an inconvenience to customers. There's no GOOD reason to keep Lightning in future products, unless Apple wants to continue to annoy their customers.

Continuing with the scenario: A few months down the road your wife decides to buy a new iPad Pro because it will help her immensely with her illustration business. She loves drawing on iPad Pro with the new Apple Pencil 2! It's so smooth and powerful, and it inspires her creativity. One day she decides to plug it into her MacBook to sync some movies to it, and guess what? Her cable has the same port on both sides! Cool! And both ends of the cable will seamlessly plug into either device. Ahhh, so satisfying! There's no worrying about plugging the wrong end in. Everything just works!

And then you're even more frustrated with Apple because if they can add USB-C to iPad Pro, you know that they can add it to iPad and iPhone too. But they just won't do it for some reason! So you remain annoyed for the foreseeable future, because you live in a world where Apple products are super inconsistent even though they don't have to be!

This can’t be serious.

If it is, I’m glad I don’t live in your world where I would get so worked up over something that’s comparatively inconsequential to my daily routine or average life events.

If it isn’t, points for ... style I guess. Massive points lost for beating around the bush though :(
 
So far I have refused to buy the iPad Pros, iPhone X, XS, and XS Max. Way overpriced. Their loss.

Angela Ahrendts' probable influence at Apple to promote luxury pricing didn't go over so well with consumers, and she's out now.

Just curious. What do you think the iPad Pros should ideally cost?
 
I have a 10.5" iPad Pro with lightning and syncing is not fast
The 10.5” does support USB 3, like the 12.9” Pro (the 9.7” Pro only has USB 2).

Whatever the issue is that’s causing your slow syncing, it isn’t necessarily going to be solved by Apple switching from 5Gbps USB 3 over Lightning to 5Gbps USB 3 using a USB-C connector.
 
Refurb 2019 iPad Pro? You do realize the 2018 iPad Pro 11” was released like 28 minutes ago. Lol. Don’t hold your breathe.
You missed the part when I said I would be keeping an eye out for a refurb 2019 iPad Pro. They’ll be out end of this year to beginning of next year. Perfect time for me. Actually don’t need to replace my iPad Pro for at least another year.
 
How is it confusing?

You'll have:

iPad Mini (7.9" or possibly 8.4" if they apply the new iPP design)
iPad (10.2")
iPad Pro (11" and 12.9")

Uhm, you forgot the 9.7 and the 10.5. Now if you are a regular guy looking for a tablet, having 5 different screen sizes and iPads with similar and overlapping internals this is confusing.
 
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