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Two separate worlds, reading a novel vs playing a first person shooter game are different things. My anecdotal experience with my roommate is not a fluke. There are thousands of examples of these mindless games are not really making society any better especially among todays youth. They are more antisocial, more likely to develop schizophrenia, disconnect between reality and fantasy and lack moderation. There are others who have self control, but when I even look into developers by a lot of these games, their environment speaks volumes about workplace behavior. Anyway, I'm moving on, this is my experience.
You’re free to think what you want, and I hate FPS games, largely because of their association with war. That said the whole antisocial, schizophrenia, etc? Citation needed.
 
I think it’s looking more and more likely a January event is happening, if so this signifies major product launches…

MacBook Pro 14 & 16”
Mac Pro
Pro Display XDR
Headset

Is my guess, although I am still unsure if the headset is actually a real thing, or whether it’s just for internal testing.
I'm still unsure if the Mac Pro is actually a real thing, or whether it’s just for internal testing.
 
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Can we please stop the shaming of folks who like to play games?
Agreed. Games still aren’t socially acceptable. But people watching sports all day, talking about it non stop and playing fantasy football are socially acceptable?

Everything is bad in large quantities. Yes reading books 8 hours a day is not good. If it’s impacting other parts of your life it’s bad.
 
Every social circle around? Its more cool to talk about the football game than call of duty.
If your circle is 80 year olds. Gaming isn't taboo anymore. You're making it sound like people that play games are societal outcasts or something. It's a multi-billion dollar industry that is more popular now than it ever has been. "Every social circle around" is not a statement of data. It's just nonsense.
 
If your circle is 80 year olds. Gaming isn't taboo anymore. You're making it sound like people that play games are societal outcasts or something. It's a multi-billion dollar industry that is more popular now than it ever has been. "Every social circle around" is not a statement of data. It's just nonsense.
Nope. 30/40 year olds. I have been to hundreds of social gatherings across various states.
 
Nope. 30/40 year olds. I have been to hundreds of social gatherings across various states.
Your circles. Yes. My circles of 30 to 40 year olds play games and also watch football and have kids and aren't judging other people for no reason like you are. You're wrong. I'm sorry.
 
Your circles. Yes. My circles of 30 to 40 year olds play games and also watch football and have kids and aren't judging other people for no reason like you are. You're wrong. I'm sorry.
Your first part and last part don't add up. Are you in my family? Are you ME? Do you know what circles I go to? No. You could be right about YOUR circles, but I am right about MINE.

Gaming is still not as socially acceptable as football. I even got a funny face from a recent date because I like to game. Yes its still not as acceptable as football. If I said I liked football, I would get a different response.
 
Your first part and last part don't add up. Are you in my family? Are you ME? Do you know what circles I go to? No. You could be right about YOUR circles, but I am right about MINE.

Gaming is still not as socially acceptable as football. I even got a funny face from a recent date because I like to game. Yes its still not as acceptable as football. If I said I liked football, I would get a different response.
Why are you such an angry person? Your recent date sounds pretty lame. Don't date people that judge you for your interests. Also, calm down.
 
Why are you such an angry person? Your recent date sounds pretty lame. Don't date people that judge you for your interests. Also, calm down.
I am not angry. "You're wrong, I am sorry" is quite condescending. How am I wrong? I have experienced it first hand. One comment was "LOL maybe if we turn this football conversation into a video game you will be interested!". I don't even like football video games, but the statement still happened.
 
I am not angry. "You're wrong, I am sorry" is quite condescending. How am I wrong? I have experienced it first hand. One comment was "LOL maybe if we turn this football conversation into a video game you will be interested!". I don't even like football video games, but the statement still happened.
"Every societal circle around" is condescending. And then stating condescending things as though they are facts is condescending. And just because you are part of social circles and meet people that frown upon your interests doesn't mean the rest of the world does.

And that statement they made to you about playing a football game sounds like you are around judgmental people. It's been years since I've been around anyone that outright dismissed others because they play games sometimes.

And you were wrong. You made an incorrect blanket statement.

And why are you in a thread about Mac gaming to tell others how societally unacceptable their interests are?
 
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"Every societal circle around" is condescending. And then stating condescending things as though they are facts is condescending. And just because you are part of social circles and meet people that frown upon your interests doesn't mean the rest of the world does.

And that statement they made to you about playing a football game sounds like you are around judgmental people. It's been years since I've been around anyone that outright dismissed others because they play games sometimes.

And you were wrong. You made an incorrect blanket statement.

And why are you in a thread about Mac gaming to tell others how societally unacceptable their interests are?
Every social circle I have been around shows this same attitude. If I go to E3 or whatever it is different, but I don't.

You are wrong that gaming is just as socially acceptable as football. Its not.

And look at the person I originally replied to. Even THEY stated can we stop shaming people for gaming. I agreed and stated its not as socially acceptable as football, which is true. We have people on THIS THREAD that are shaming us, but will probably say ZERO if we talk about football for 8 pages.
 
Every social circle I have been around shows this same attitude. If I go to E3 or whatever it is different, but I don't.

You are wrong that gaming is just as socially acceptable as football. Its not.
And every social circle I've been around doesn't. So you can't make blanket statements. I've never been to E3 and don't need to go to E3 to experience non-judgmental people.

I didn't say gaming is as socially acceptable as football. That comparison was only made by you.
 
And every social circle I've been around doesn't. So you can't make blanket statements. I've never been to E3 and don't need to go to E3 to experience non-judgmental people.

I didn't say gaming is as socially acceptable as football. That comparison was only made by you.
Take a look even at this thread. Someone links gaming with anti-social, stealing at their job etc. Its IN THIS THREAD that we are getting shamed for our hobbies. Look at the original person I quoted. I agreed lets stop shaming people for gaming.
 
Take a look even at this thread. Someone links gaming with anti-social, stealing at their job etc. Its IN THIS THREAD that we are getting shamed for our hobbies. Look at the original person I quoted. I agreed lets stop shaming people for gaming.
I didn't mean to sound combative. My apologies.
 
Imagine buying a mac for gaming.
I'd never buy a Mac for gaming as it doesn't make sense. But since I was buying a very expensive M1 Max anyway I did think I may as well spend a few quid extra to upgrade to more CPU cores to game. If it's about £3.5k with the 4TB storage upgrade spending (depending how you look at it) an extra ~£100-300 for twice the graphics performance and clearly better gaming FPS than stock Pro it seemed a no brainer. Arguably about twice that would be getting me near PS5 money and would have lots more(?) games but I wasn't likely to buy a console as I wouldn't move it around my house and some games I'm more of a mouse/keys person, or a gaming PC/laptop instead would likely be useless recording silently in my studio.

So buying one specifically for gaming would be dumb. But buying a very expenisive laptop you could spend a little more on and take it from mediocre/poor/ok gaming to pretty damn decent seemed a no brainer. Would be nice to get some more titles like Battlefield/Cyberpunk/Red Dead/etc would be great, but the amount I game I have far too many fun things to play I've bought on Steam in the last year that I already don't have time for.

I'm hoping the Metal 3 announcement means it's more likely DX12 (or DX11) games will get ported now. Would be great to have more options, but equally I've got far too many games I'm only a few hours into to keep me going fopr the forseeable future.
 
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Wrong. The issue is heat removal. That is precisely one of the things that Studio is for. Many (perhaps most) of the folks like me driving multiple displays also drive some heavy workflows. Heavy workflows plus the graphics of multiple displays requires better heat removal than that available in the entry level Mini format. It is unwise for Apple to facilitate folks overdriving hardware and subsequently whining when it fails.

BS.
Intel Mac mini worked totally fine with 3 monitors.
More monitors does not equal more heat and even if it did the mini case with way reduced thermals going M series could way more than handle it.

It's an upsell strategy.
 
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