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Apr 12, 2001

Update: Bloomberg inaccurately interpreted the original comments and has since drastically changed the wording of its article. The original Bloomberg piece said that Apple would be prohibited from pre-installing its own apps on iPhones.

The updated Bloomberg article has been rewritten to clarify that the antitrust legislation prohibits Apple from preventing users from removing Apple-created apps on their Apple devices, which is quite different.

Under the legislation, users would need to be permitted to remove any Apple-created app. Apple already allows many of its own apps to be deleted, but core apps like Messages, Photos, and Phone cannot be removed. The bill does NOT prevent Apple from pre-installing its own apps, it prevents Apple from blocking users from deleting pre-installed apps. Our original article is below.

Apple would not be permitted to sell iPhones with its own apps installed under proposed U.S. antitrust legislation that was released last week. Representative David Cicilline confirmed the self-preferencing ban in a discussion with reporters, details of which were shared by Bloomberg.


Rather than pre-installed apps, Apple would have to offer other app options for consumers to download. Right now, iPhones come with a range of free Apple-designed apps from Messages and FaceTime to Calendar and Notes.

"It would be equally easy to download the other five apps as the Apple one so they're not using their market dominance to favor their own products and services," said Cicilline.

Preventing Apple from selling iPhones with its own apps installed would drastically change the iPhone's setup process, making it considerably less streamlined, more complicated, and potentially more expensive if customers were prompted to purchase or subscribe to third-party apps and services to replicate the functionality that Apple provides at no cost.

According to Cicilline, this would also apply to Amazon Prime because Amazon's ability to sell its own products over third-party products disadvantages some sellers.

U.S. House lawmakers last week debuted sweeping bipartisan antitrust legislation in the form of five different bills aimed at major tech companies like Apple, Amazon, Facebook, and Google. The bills would apply to businesses that have a market capitalization of $600 billion and at least 50 million monthly active users in the United States.

If passed, these bills would overhaul competition laws that have not been revisited for decades and would lead to significant changes in the tech industry. The House Judiciary Committee will review the five bills at a hearing next week.

Article Link: U.S. Antitrust Legislation Would Require Users to Be Able to Delete All Pre-Installed Apple Apps [Updated]
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Oct 18, 2020
and after that google, samsung and the others...this is hard to believe that will happen...
An empty phone...from where do you install the apps since that implies the app store will not to be on the iphone since app store is an APP by apple
The IQ level is very low...and it will not happen
Maybe Cicilline is trolling us
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macrumors 65816
Aug 19, 2006
Microsoft was almost broken up because they installed IE on Windows PCs 25 years ago. What Apple, Microsoft, and Google have gotten away with the past 15 years or so is incredibly far beyond that.

This legislation makes total sense and I support it.

Monopolies are a bad thing folks.


macrumors 6502a
Jun 20, 2007
Ridiculous. That’s what it is.
Same thing that happened with MSFT? I think and search engines back in the 00's. First time you'd launch a random list of search engines would appear and you'd choose your default. But was meant to make it more fair?

I forget the specifics so I might be off a bit but very much remember that or something really close to that being a thing.

I think it's fair to go that route. First time you launch your phone, handful of apps you can choose from or something. I'd MUCH prefer that vs another app store on the devices.


macrumors 68000
Feb 19, 2016
This is a depressing development because it shows how the nanny law and elected-officials-choosing-private sector-winners-and-losers virus that usually stays at the local–or at most state–level has found vectors to Washington DC.

What I find most insulting about these types of regulations, bans, laws, surcharges, taxes, and fees is that they treat everybody as incapable of making informed decisions on their own. You know what? When I decide to drink a soda, I know it can be bad for me. Or when I ask for a shopping bag at a store, I know I am doing something with an environmental impact. And, when I see that Apple has put some apps on my new phone, I know that there are alternatives. That's why there's an App Store and a thriving constellation of websites, like MacRumors, where people can talk about the best software to use on their devices!
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