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I'm baffled as to what people are deducing from all of this. I wonder how many people are actually reading the original document. It's not that difficult and you might actually learn something.

You are asking way too much of the the naysayers here DizzyDog, they much prefer to let someone else do their thinking for them and tell them what to think.
 
Hmm, I thought you were all for capitalism and free market with no government intervention which would lead one to think that these laws are thus too much government involvement in business. :cool:

I probably disagree with FoW on 90% of political issues. But at least he is literate.

All this ruling does is say that the government can't throw you in prison or fine you for jailbreaking.

Apple argued that the government should be able to do either of these things, or both.

This ruling doesn't affect Apple's ability to prohibit jailbreaking by licensing or denial of warranty service at all. It only says that jailbreaking isn't illegal.
 
I probably disagree with FoW on 90% of political issues. But at least he is literate.

All this ruling does is say that the government can't throw you in prison or fine you for jailbreaking.

Apple argued that the government should be able to do either of these things, or both.

This ruling doesn't affect Apple's ability to prohibit jailbreaking by licensing or denial of warranty service at all. It only says that jailbreaking isn't illegal under the DMCA.

One "correction" above. Legal liability may still attach under copyright law, particularly those who commercially benefit by performing or inducing jailbreaking.
 
Still Apple has the right to VOID your warranty, and what happens if your Jail Broken and your phone dies and you need Apple to fix it, will they replace it even though your phone is JB? :rolleyes:
 
It's a pretty narrow regulatory decision as far as I can tell. It removes doubt that this is illegal--but I don't think Apple has ever tried to contend that.

It may mean that denying warranty service because of jailbreaking goes away. That's really the biggest potential impact I can see.

Correct, Apple never tried to contend this. However, had the US Copyright office ruled the other way, and said that jailbreaking was a violation of the DCMA (which is was not) then Apple could have easily lowered the boom and legally forced websites and groups like the Dev Team and this forum to no longer post how to jailbreak your iPhone.

As far as jailbreaking goes, this will not make it any easier for the Dev Team and others to do it. It just means that Apple will not legally be able to stop them from trying and posting their successes for the masses to use.

The important part is the unlock part of this ruling.
 
Apple will still be able to deny you warranty repairs. You can modify devices in your home now but if you try to get them repaired under warranty you can be denied. Jailbreak is just under that same umbrella.

agree...

Mr. DeeBubba McIdiot jailbraks his iphone.

in the process, the iphone becomes a brick...

Mr. DeeBubba McIdiot sues apple because, you know, apple is responsible for what Mr. DeeBubba McIdiot does with the product that it purchased from apple...

Ahh... lame McIdiot family... the universe is full of them...
 
Jailbreaking isn't my thing (I like it as it is), but I think this is a good step. If you buy a product, you should be free to do whatever you want with it. That includes bricking it by doing **** wrong. Also, responsibility lies with the consumer.
 
Jailbreaking isn't my thing (I like it as it is), but I think this is a good step. If you buy a product, you should be free to do whatever you want with it. That includes bricking it by doing **** wrong. Also, responsibility lies with the consumer.

I don't think you really believe that. Does it apply to cars? Guns? If I buy a book can I run off a million copies and sell them for a profit?
 
Apple will still be able to deny you warranty repairs. You can modify devices in your home now but if you try to get them repaired under warranty you can be denied. Jailbreak is just under that same umbrella.

Disagree. The warranty does not take away the protections which exist for consumers in the law.

That term 'this does not affect your statutory rights under your applicable national laws' means something. Often it means that limits inserted by the manufacturer in the warranty are invalidated.
 
This was such a no-brainer it should've happened long ago. The only purpose of the DMCA should be to prevent copyright violations, not to manipulate individual property rights nor to stifle innovation or interoperability.
 
Another Story For Apple Bashers!!

Full of Win and AidenShaw....yet another chance to show your contempt of all things Apple.

Come on now....or you won't get paid. :p
 
why does every body, including some elements in the government, hate apple so much?

all this anti-apple stance today makes the old MS stand as a harmless naive cousin who is clumsy and does not have a clue...

is it not obvious that apple contributes to the advancement of technology (every one is still trying to copy apple in just about every area)? why so much hate?
 
I'm "just sayin" to bad it's not illegal for them to break our JB.

First of all, they can't break your jailbreak. You are welcome to keep it as long as you use the firmware you jailbroke. If you choose to upgrade your phone, sure, you might lose your jailbreak. But that is your action, not theirs. You aren't seriously suggesting that Apple could be required to leave security holes in their software, are you? Pining for such a ridiculous law is, well, ridiculous.
 
Jailbreaking isn't my thing (I like it as it is), but I think this is a good step. If you buy a product, you should be free to do whatever you want with it. That includes bricking it by doing **** wrong. Also, responsibility lies with the consumer.

are you advocating that every McIdiot out there that bricks their phone should simply go to Apple and have them give them a brand new iphone? Really?
 
First of all, they can't break your jailbreak. You are welcome to keep it as long as you use the firmware you jailbroke. If you choose to upgrade your phone, sure, you might lose your jailbreak. But that is your action, not theirs. You aren't seriously suggesting that Apple could be required to leave security holes in their software, are you? Pining for such a ridiculous law is, well, ridiculous.

Pretty sure it was a 'haha joking' statement though some people seem to think that that Apple can't close holes for the sole purpose of JBing because of this, which is laughable at best itself. Not sure which is funnier the joking statement about it or the ones that actually believe it to be the case.
 
I thought they were going to legalize unlocking... that would have been a strange move! Next up: Drugs are now legal!
 
Jailbreaking isn't my thing (I like it as it is), but I think this is a good step. If you buy a product, you should be free to do whatever you want with it. That includes bricking it by doing **** wrong. Also, responsibility lies with the consumer.

I don't think you really believe that. Does it apply to cars? Guns? If I buy a book can I run off a million copies and sell them for a profit?

are you advocating that every McIdiot out there that bricks their phone should simply go to Apple and have them give them a brand new iphone? Really?

did anybody of you actually read what Heilage said? I guess not otherwise these responses make no sense...............:rolleyes:
 
why does every body, including some elements in the government, hate apple so much?

all this anti-apple stance today makes the old MS stand as a harmless naive cousin who is clumsy and does not have a clue...

is it not obvious that apple contributes to the advancement of technology (every one is still trying to copy apple in just about every area)? why so much hate?

This move isn't anti-apple it's pro-consumer. Government is backing customers. Also, lots of things contribute to technological development including having phone networks that are subject to more competitive forces.
 
You are basing your question on a false supposition. The only thing that was changed today is that it's not illegal to defeat the technological measures that protect the iOS from modification. That doesn't mean it's legal to modify the iOS. Copyright law is a separate body of law from the DMCA, and today's announcement involves only the DMCA.

Think of it this way. The DMCA makes it illegal to break into a house. Copyright law makes it illegal to steal things from a house.

Today the government said they won't put you in jail for breaking and entering. Doesn't mean you're allowed to steal.

But...you don't have to modify OSX to install it and use it. Not sure you are talking about the same thing as others. You buy compatible PC parts. You install vanilla OSX and just use it. How is that modifying anything? How is that not fair use, under the same spirit as this new "law"?
 
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