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U.S. President Joe Biden to Direct FTC to Draft Right to Repair Rules
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His approval ratings say otherwise.
Not really. Though the Commerce clause gives the Congress the power to regulate commerce, the Supeme Court has ruled in the past that the Executive branch can safeguard US business interersts and protection of the consumer.
You reminded me of my experience in 1981 when I was working for an electronics distributor. I sold parts to television repair people. Some of the old timers told me about the circuit board swappers who didn't really fix the TVs but swapped the whole board and sent the board back to be refurbished.
I also remember an incident where our PC person replaced parts of an IBM PS/2 until the only thing left to replace was the case with the power supply. It probably wasn't properly shielded and was in a location picking up stray interference (maybe from the person using it) but our PC person never found a good solution.
Supporting scam artists and working against the consumer shouldn't be the way our government ever works.
This will be wrapped in government red tape until the end of time. Any product should last 5-7 years without needing service and if it does need service you should be able to fix it quickly and inexpensively. It’s yours, you brought it. It’s not the manufacturers to decide what to do.
Congrats on the dumbest comment I've seen in a long time. I have news for you - there are tons of shops that do independent repair and they do it much better than Apple itself. They don't bother with certification because it's not necessary for their business model. And yes somehow they stay in business for years without your permission. Shocking, isn't it?
On an unrelated note - I would never vote for Sleepy Joe for many reasons but if the Right to Repair bill passes on federal level I won't say no to that.
Oops, didn’t realize the ignorance was willfull. Moving along!Not sure who that guy is, but he looks like a genius in the process of presenting rational, well reasoned arguments...
I think Biden is an awful President with a horrendous track record (supporter of foreign wars, '94 crime bill etc) and his premiership has been a train wreck thus far, not too mention his pay for access via his son is deeply disturbing. But I do fully support him in this. I would just prefer if it was rule by consent than by decree. His use of executive orders has been unprecedented and unsettling.
This is long overdue and we should have the right to repair whatever we own. I'd like to see them make stickers voiding illegal for a start.
This is long overdue and we should have the right to repair whatever we own. I'd like to see them make stickers voiding illegal for a start.
They just need to make the blanket, not target specific markets. This has been a really big issue for farmers due to John Deere.
This issues is simple: Do you lease it? Then it is not yours. Do you rent it? Then it is not yours. But do you own it? Then it is yours. Then you get to have it repaired where and with what parts you wish. This is *not* a complicated issue expect for all those worried people who need an extra private island at which to dock all their yachts and can't quite fund it while still maintaining their fleet of aircraft and hypercars to the upmost perfection. I tell you, I *feel* for them. It just gets me right in the gut. I stay up nights worrying about them. How *will* they get that next island? Will their yachts get scratched because they are docked too closely together if they can't acquire the island fast enough?
This issues is simple: Do you lease it? Then it is not yours. Do you rent it? Then it is not yours. But do you own it? Then it is yours. Then you get to have it repaired where and with what parts you wish. This is *not* a complicated issue expect for all those worried people who need an extra private island at which to dock all their yachts and can't quite fund it while still maintaining their fleet of aircraft and hypercars to the upmost perfection. I tell you, I *feel* for them. It just gets me right in the gut. I stay up nights worrying about them. How *will* they get that next island? Will their yachts get scratched because they are docked too closely together if they can't acquire the island fast enough?
Would've been a lot better for Apple if they had, from the beginning, lowered insane repair fees that are not under warranty, extended the time of Apple Care and repair programs like the display coating program which they put a limit of 4 years on. The coating on my MBP has come off each time they've replaced the display (once under warranty and once without warranty). It has come off for a third time but I don't want to pay another $600 and they won't replace it because it's older than 4 years.
They made their own bed.
They made their own bed.
Still Regulation by another name. If the government “regulates” that Apple must provide repair information to their competitors, that is not “deregulation”. The government should not be able to mandate a company to “enable” their competition. You are already allowed to pay anyone you want to repair your Apple device, or are allowed to attempt to do so yourself. This is just whether Apple can be compelled to spend their own dollar and share proprietary information, so that competitors can better compete with Apple services. Just because Apple is “big”, does not make it right, or fair.
AppleCare is not Warranty, it’s paid extra.I think that is why Apple now offers AppleCare before it expires or within 30 days after. That is indeed far better.
You realize they can replace the seal, right? It’s not held together by magic, these are all known procedures and materials.
Can I repair my Sony TV? My router? My...[any product you own]. Ugh. This right to repair carp applies to tin cans connected by strings and electronics in the 1920s. I remember going to tube testers at the supermarket for TV issues. Oy.
Who said we want deregulation? Deregulation only benefits the big guys who can fend themselves.
In an anarchy, the weak ones suffer, however how you define weak. Can be sex, for example.
One of my vehicles is a 1992 Honda Accord. I’ve never had a problem getting new parts for it. Some parts like the brake master cylinder are remanufactured but I’ve been able to buy some new Honda branded parts from the dealership just in the past few years.
At a minimum, there should be a method to buy OEM consumables for a product. (Batteries would be the big one for phones/computers, but you may also consider hard drives as limited life span.).
As an alternative, if the OEM chooses not to sell replacement consumable parts (at a reasonable price), maybe legally allow 3rd party manufacturers of replacement parts to ignore any patent/copyright/DRM issues so as to provide a way for consumers to obtain near-oem replacements?
For my wife’s MacBook Air, I had to escalate my request to the genius’s manager to get apple to replace the laptop battery (at my cost, of course.) The battery was still in ok shape for being 6 years old, but I was expecting apple to soon put the MacBook Air on the vintage/obsolete list. I wanted an oem battery replacement vs the third party junk batteries I would have been forced to obtain as you simply can't buy an oem battery directly and apple refuses to do battery service after declaring a computer model vintage.
3rd party batteries are very hot and miss, there are lots of examples if you search macrumors’s forums of junk batteries being sold from amazon/eBay/etc.
I remember about 20 years ago it was possible to purchase the repair manual directly from Sony for their brand new (2000) CRT monitors.
That’s the type of work that Underwriters Laboratories has been doing for decades.
As long as Apple keeps making products ludicrously difficult to repair, it won't affect them much. With the way modern tech is glued and soldered together, it's designed to be replaced rather than repaired. So, if you go to some shop that tries to repair your MacBook and they mess it up, Apple will just say, "Sorry, your warranty is voided now - we don't repair others' mistakes."
Why not both
Sure. How much more do you want to pay for your gadgets? Because companies don’t eat these costs, no matter how great these ideas sound when politicians make big promises.