Again laughable. Gay people are just as bigoted as anyone else, as you have clearly demonstrated.
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Again laughable. Gay people are just as bigoted as anyone else, as you have clearly demonstrated.
It's just another one of those typical cases where Christians are being "persecuted" simply for the fact that they project whatever they have been told to believe in onto the lives of others. Tip of the day: Keep your religion to yourself, live by it, pray 24hrs a day, believe that we-all-will-die-in-lots-of-flames, it's all good and fun. but once innocent people are being attacked by you simply because their life doesn't match with whatever rules you chose for yourself to live by, don't get all whiny and feel "persecuted". You people need to finally understand that your religion is not a universal guideline for the entire society.
In the B&B case, the couple clearly made a poor career choice when opening a B&B to the public but imposing their personal beliefs onto their guests.
There are a couple problems. One is that I can't find a meaningful review or citations of this. I'm not paying for the full report. Even if I did it would take a lot of time to read and digest, so it would be some time before I could provide a real response. The other problem is that this addresses a subset of marriage issues. It doesn't address issues of spousal rights in terms of inheritance, hospital visits, etc. I was also looking for some way to tie this back to the specific topic of the thread, but it's difficult to do.
Regardless of marital rights, discrimination is still an issue. This isn't meant to diffuse the discussion, but I hope to see a point where laws like this are completely unnecessary and serve no purpose.
And yet "evil" China has lifted more people out of poverty than any other regime on the planet. The world is a lot more complex than you give it credit for.
Neither am I.
But that guy was not locked up for just being anti-gay. He was locked up for harassment. He was threatening them. That's the illegal part. If I post something anti-gay on twitter, I won't get locked up. If I specifically say I'm gonna hurt someone, then maybe I'll have some legal problems.
Not true, Apple has done this before:
http://allthingsd.com/20130228/for-apple-fighting-doma-and-prop-8-is-more-than-business-as-usual/
So what you're saying is that we don't really know what is and isn't valid in the Bible because it really wasn't said, and that we should go by the Bible plus other things that the Catholic priests say we should? So ... not just your interpretation of a really old book, but also you interpretation of other equally old things.
And we're supposed to base laws off something like that? That's insanity.
And Christians have persecuted others for centuries for following their faith.
Cases in point:
Christopher Columbus (Catholic).
Hernando Cortez (Catholic).
Francisco Pizarro (Catholic).
Andrew Jackson (Presbyterian).
George Wallace (Methodist).
and yet you call Tim Cook a hypocrite? Pot. Kettle. Black. Check yourself.
BL.
Religious freedom always includes the rights of those who want freedom religion....
The left argument is off base
He's leaving gayness in the same basket it was in for a while, then saying everything else in that same basket (deviant behavior) will follow, then saying it leads to weakness. The key bit is at the end: these threads argue facts, but they are usually about fear. Fear those changes that allow others not to conform or even stop punishing failure (a more common theme), will bring weakness and eventual collapse to society. Cause you know, fear itself is never a weakness.
Short term perhaps. The senate has long sat downstream and served as a gatekeeper to the house. But with the house largely paralyzed, the senate is having to step up to even show what the house isn't doing. Long term, this will show more clearly what isn't working and why, reducing the houses relevance.
Historically, religions controlled such large portions of what was such a small world (portions of the whole world) that they didn't need to play nice. Religions that didn't encourage growth of their own ranks and discourage it in the ranks of competitors, quickly found themselves on the sidelines (or gone all together). The problem now is the world has gotten so small, so fast, there hasn't been time to turn off the anticompetitive drive.
Persecution? I'm not sure that disagreement and dissent qualifies as persecution, nor does requiring people in a society to treat people with some common level of decency, at least in public.
A not insignificant amount of Christian persecution has come from other Christians over the course of history too. Real persecution, as in "drag out and do bodily harm to". And of course religions that share the same god and many religious texts are also busy kicking the living daylights out of each other because of their particular beliefs. Go figure. Everyday people of many different religions (yes, including Christians) are killed because of it. That's persecution.
It's insane...and there's nothing you can do to convince many of them that they're wrong. These are the same people who want Christmas celebrated EVERYWHERE, but if another holiday is included they think it's an attack on their religion.
Did you hear that they can't even discriminate against their gay employees anymore? They have to give them the same ability to include their spouses on their health insurance plans that they give to their heterosexual employees.
As Jesus always said: "love one another...unless someone is doing you don't approve of, then discriminate against the bastard."
Now, I must add that only specific sins require the sinner to be discriminated against. If someone is a liar, they should not be treated differently and you should love them (and still vote for them, if possible). If someone has an attraction to their own sex, that means that you should publicly decry their existence, fight any attempts for that person or group of persons to be treated fairly by the government, and actually use church funds to combat their ability to marry in a civil, not religious ceremony.
Remember the news when 300 workers threatened suicide at an "Apple factory"? Because Microsoft dropped production of XBox and these people were afraid of losing their job?
What do you think would be the effect on workers in China if Apple moved production elsewhere?
No that isn't what I am saying at all. However you are clearly not interested in trying to understand what I am saying.
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So you are "all for gay rights and all", except that you don't like it if someone influential does something.
Fact is that good companies will engage in activities that improve the lives of people around them, because it is a good thing to do, and benefits the company indirectly by improving its reputation, and by motivating employees.