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I can’t wait until I can buy Walmart branded products at Target. I’d also like to get an Impossible Whopper at McDonalds.
You clearly have no idea of the subject matter at hand do you?

Maybe this will help -- You can buy Coca Cola at any store you want, and you can shop around for the best price. Coca Cola isn't forced to sell their product at only one retailer. Software companies want to be able to sell their products anywhere they want. Simple idea, yes?
 
Like how? Give a realistic example that you know of...
I already have. Any app that isn’t available on the App Store, or is but is a different price, or is but has different features would negatively impact users who elect to only use the App Store.
 
I already have. Any app that isn’t available on the App Store, or is but is a different price, or is but has different features would negatively impact users who elect to only use the App Store.
Or maybe the opposite. Did you consider both ways? Maybe the App Store version will be the "premium" version with more features (since it costs more)? The fact is, everything you claim is conjecture. All made up scenarios that may or may not happen. I think most software companies simply don't want to pay Apple 30% and would rather pay a CC portal company 3% to process direct sales of a single version of software. Simple, I know...but seems like the easy choice from a business perspective.
 
I think Apple have made serious mistakes here, but I also am not fond of how ignorant legislators seem to be about the computer industry. There’s so much more fundamental regulation needed here (such as banning EULAs and holding companies accountable for garbage software, which is almost everything), and they tend to word legislation in a way that ends up allowing something worse to be excused, usually by one of the companies lobbying for the legislation.
A responsible Apple would have recognized the harm that regulation can have and changed their business model appropriately to avoid that outcome.
 
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Or maybe the opposite. Did you consider both ways? Maybe the App Store version will be the "premium" version with more features (since it costs more)? The fact is, everything you claim is conjecture. All made up scenarios that may or may not happen. I think most software companies simply don't want to pay Apple 30% and would rather pay a CC portal company 3% to process direct sales of a single version of software. Simple, I know...but seems like the easy choice from a business perspective.
Affinity Software is the best example how this will be in the future. Simply available everywhere (Web download and AppStore)
 
It's rather telling that, in this political climate, one of the few things that is truly bipartisan, is opposition to Apple operating this iOS App distribution monopoly

That should tell us something folks...

We have politicians who can't agree the sky is blue...that agree about this Apple situation and how it needs to change.
 
If they are forced to allow sideloading then what they should do is implement a security API that when sideloading is activated all your banking/Authenticator & other apps that may want to use it are then locked out for security reasons, kinda like what some apps do on Android when they detected a rooted device.

Yes you can have sideloading but at the same time Apple can claim the device is still “secure” as you can’t easily do secure activities on that device.
If sideloading was implemented that way you can bet hardly anybody would do it as it would kill a lot of the functionality most come to rely on from their devices.
 
If they are forced to allow sideloading then what they should do is implement a security API that when sideloading is activated all your banking/Authenticator & other apps that may want to use it are then locked out for security reasons, kinda like what some apps do on Android when they detected a rooted device.

Rooting ≠ Sideloading ≠ Jailbreaking

These are all distinct things...
The differences matter (a lot)

There is no need to "lock you out of your banking apps"
 
I already have. Any app that isn’t available on the App Store, or is but is a different price, or is but has different features would negatively impact users who elect to only use the App Store.
The key word in your statement is "elect." Each person can choose to download apps where ever they chose. If you want to keep getting all of your apps from the iOS app store for piece of mind, then go for it. If you are more tech savy and don't need to have Apple hold your hand, go for it.

You can think of it as you are paying Apple 30% of all of your app store purchases for Apple's services of approving the apps, etc. Or you can use your own personal judgement to find safe alternative downloads outside of the app store. MacOS has worked this way for decades. No reason a mini computer like an iPhone shouldn't be able to too.
 
It's rather telling that, in this political climate, one of the few things that is truly bipartisan, is opposition to Apple operating this iOS App distribution monopoly

That should tell us something folks...

We have politicians who can't agree the sky is blue...that agree about this Apple situation and how it needs to change.
Unfortunately I think they agree for very different reasons. Democrats want to rightfully make sure nobody is acting anticompetitively in the market, while Republicans want to ensure violent insurrectionists have a platform.
 
Unfortunately I think they agree for very different reasons.

Sure -- but to me it's not necessarily unfortunate.
I find it indicative that the Apple control here is undesirable for a variety of reasons.

To your point, they have different reasons, but the one unifying principle is that Apple has way too much control here.
 
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If this passes, be prepared for serious limitations/costs on the use of Apple's SDK. Apple owns their system. There will always be restrictions put upon developers to access it.

On a side note, the current iOS App store has been a boon to all developers and created a new revenue stream where one did not exist . Considering that there was NO market in 2008 and in 2021 there was revenue of $85B. That makes the app store one of the fastest growing businesses of all time.

You clearly have no idea of the subject matter at hand do you?

Maybe this will help -- You can buy Coca Cola at any store you want, and you can shop around for the best price. Coca Cola isn't forced to sell their product at only one retailer. Software companies want to be able to sell their products anywhere they want. Simple idea, yes?
Clearly you do not understand retail licenses and exclusivity deals. And you cannot buy anything you want, anywhere you want. If I go to McDonald's, I can only buy the beverage that they will allow to be sold.
 
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You clearly have no idea of the subject matter at hand do you?

Maybe this will help -- You can buy Coca Cola at any store you want, and you can shop around for the best price. Coca Cola isn't forced to sell their product at only one retailer. Software companies want to be able to sell their products anywhere they want. Simple idea, yes?
Software companies aren't forced to sell their products to Apple either. Apple isn't requiring developers to exclusively develop for them. They can release any app on Android, Windows, Mac, XBox, Playstation, Switch, Roku, Firestick etc as well.
 
If this passes, be prepared for serious limitations/costs on the use of Apple's SDK. Apple owns their system. There will always be restrictions put upon developers to access it.

Remember one key thing

Apple needs developers every bit as much (if not more) than developers need Apple.

iPhones will not sell as they do if third party apps are purposely hamstrung in strange ways just to try to force an outcome Apple prefers.
 
You clearly have no idea of the subject matter at hand do you?

Maybe this will help -- You can buy Coca Cola at any store you want, and you can shop around for the best price. Coca Cola isn't forced to sell their product at only one retailer. Software companies want to be able to sell their products anywhere they want. Simple idea, yes?
And Target has the right to buy and retail any product they decide. They don’t have to buy and retail Coke. The gov’t mandating that one company has to allow any and every other company be allowed to sell products on their platform is no different than telling Target they have to sell some Walmart branded product, when Walmart decides it’s only fair if their product is available at Target, and vice versa.
 
It's rather telling that, in this political climate, one of the few things that is truly bipartisan, is opposition to Apple operating this iOS App distribution monopoly

That should tell us something folks...

We have politicians who can't agree the sky is blue...that agree about this Apple situation and how it needs to change.
One could look at this as bipartisan agreement that Apple does not spend enough money lobbying in Washington.
 
On a side note, the current iOS App store has been a boon to all developers and created a new revenue stream where one did not exist . Considering that there was NO market in 2008 and in 2021 there was revenue of $85B. That makes the app store one of the fastest growing businesses of all time.
Or it could also be stated, "on a side note, the current iOS App store devs have been a boon to Apple and created a new revenue stream where one did not exist . Considering that there was NO market in 2008 and in 2021 there was revenue of $85B. That makes the app store one of the fastest growing businesses of all time.
 
The US Senate cares nothing about your security or privacy. They do, however, care about the bags of cash tech companies leave outside their doors.

Apple leaves tons of cash at their doors..

How do you explain the bipartisan opposition to Apple and their iOS App distribution monopoly?

One could look at this as bipartisan agreement that Apple does not spend enough money lobbying in Washington.

Well - they spend a ton as it is -- maybe it really means that no amount of money will overcome this situation in Apples favor? Maybe that can be a good thing?

It's usually not a good thing for general consumers if massive corporations get "everything they want".
Those incentives basically never fully align.
 
Software companies aren't forced to sell their products to Apple either. Apple isn't requiring developers to exclusively develop for them. They can release any app on Android, Windows, Mac, XBox, Playstation, Switch, Roku, Firestick etc as well.
And yet only two of those platforms are relevant to a great many type of apps.

I can't wait for Waze to come to my Playstation! /s
 
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