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Apple might be able to comply by saying they already allow sideloading.

Just pay $99/annum to enroll in Apple’s developer program, buy a Mac, download Xcode, and build from source any app you want to side load on any of your own iOS devices.

Done.

Congress can then vote for educational assistance for those who need to learn the required skills as part of the STEM thing.
That will go over about as well as Apple saying they were already complying with South Korean law. Of course Apple eventually changed their tune and actually started following the law.
 
Allow sideloading, make malware a crime with stiff penalties, catch and don't enforce the penalties ..... (sarcasm).
 
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Why don't I have the right to control my phone that I bought and paid for?
physically you have complete control.

Take that sucker apart, crack the screen, throw it in the ocean for all Apple cares.

Digitally? In regards to the OS software? you have the right to control nothing.

Sorry Charlie, this is the end of Willy Wonka's Chocolate Factory tour.

Please have Mr. Wonka read you the terms and conditions at the conclusion of your tour.
 
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Well since we don't want to make mistakes, would you mind citing your source that proves that Apple wants to disable side-loading apps in macOS?
Sure, common sense for anyone not an Apple fanboy. The ever encroaching "to protect the children" of not being allowed to run apps on macOS. Can no longer double click, have right click and select open. All of the code is present all they have to do us remove the current work around options. The requirement for macOS Apps having to be notarized or from the Mac app store. For anyone without their head in the sand macOS has been creeping towards requiring all apps in the App Store for years. Plus the fact that all Apps in the App Store gives Apple the control they want.
 
Digitally? In regards to the OS software? you have the right to control nothing.
Yep, that is certainly Apple perspective, and it is amazing that you pointed out something that Apple spends millions on hiding.

But I am not talking about Apple's software, I am talking about third party software that should be able to be run on my devices. The car companies don't limit the brand of gasoline you use and Apple should not be limiting the software I run on my device. And oddly enough Apple does not do that on macOS.
 
Simply put - Apple should make it slightly harder to obtain than Settings > General > Reset > Erase All Content and Settings. I wonder how many grandmas over there erase their iPhones regularly.
I'd be more concerned about them getting into notes with passwords and financial data saved, rather then them just reseting the phone.
 
Except the billions of customers Apple provides, the infrastructure, storefront and exposure. But yeah, they don’t owe Apple anything. ?
You missed the most important part of my comment. How many of those customers would Apple be able to provide if the only apps that ran on those devices were Apple's only??? Apple's success is selling those devices was dependent on 3rd party support. If you don't understand or believe that then delete all apps on your iOS devices not created by Apple and see how that works out for you.

If apple allowed side loading, the developers wouldn't need the storefront or infrastructure. Do you think all the MacOS developers need the AppStore??? I don't use the Mac App Store at all, and yet apple still somehow manages to make and sell new Macs all the time. And yet Apple still makes money off most of those developers because they charge their developers a fee just so they can sign their apps.

This isn't about "security" or "infrastructure"... its about greed. Tim Cook pretty much admitted this when in court he basically issued a threat saying they would have to find other ways to "collect their fee", like they weren't already charging the developers... like the only reason there was a fee in the first place was because Apple forced them to use Apple's services to distribute their apps.
 
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You bought the phone, not the OS.
You bought a phone WITH an OS (that you can't change) that is suppose to let you run apps written by third party developers.

More professional apps would start appearing on the iPad if companies creating those apps didn't know thy would have to fork over 30% of their potential return on investment to Apple if they even take off.
 
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Sure, common sense for anyone not an Apple fanboy. The ever encroaching "to protect the children" of not being allowed to run apps on macOS. Can no longer double click, have right click and select open. All of the code is present all they have to do us remove the current work around options. The requirement for macOS Apps having to be notarized or from the Mac app store. For anyone without their head in the sand macOS has been creeping towards requiring all apps in the App Store for years. Plus the fact that all Apps in the App Store gives Apple the control they want.

So, you are the source? ? Sorry, not buying it. I've been using Macs as my primary computers since 2005 and have had ZERO issues installing any software I want. The most I've had to do is go into System Preferences > Security & Privacy to verify I want to open an app from an unrecognized developer (but this only has to be done once for those apps). Also, I have no idea what you're talking about with the double-clicking. I double-left-click to open files and apps all the time. And apps in the dock only require a single click to launch. Files or apps in stacks also only require single click. Do you actually use a Mac? LOL!
 
You just know Apple will do everything to make the 3rd party app user journey unbearable. I would too.

It will be counter-claiming awareness in their marketing, and pop ups in iOS every time you open the app.
 
You bought a phone WITH an OS (that you can't change) that is suppose to let you run apps written by third party developers.

More professional apps would start appearing on the iPad if companies creating those apps didn't know thy would have to fork over 30% of their potential return on investment to Apple if they even take off.
Baloney. I don't buy the above. But ymmv was to what your opinion of this is. Maybe these same companies should develop on android where google is giving them a break.
 
Say goodbye to security.

yes, if u download everything from everywhere without caring about the source. but what's the problem if i download hearthstone app from blizzard (ups... microsoft) store instead of app(le) store? and whats the problem if i make a dummy iphone for other purposes where i dont have personal/sensible data? i can already do the same on my mac, why not on iphone? i still dont know people with an android phone that got stolen money from bank account beacuse of a malware...
 
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Yes. Security/privacy unaffected as long as you don’t download these non-approved apps. Nothing is 100% secure, but sideloaded apps breaks the checks and balances the App Store provides.

Or, an App Store competitor could offer better security than Apple. Imagine that.

However, this is already a non-issue. Apple has the solution for 3rd party Mac App distribution:

"For software and applications that are downloaded from places other than the Mac App Store, developers can get a Developer ID certificate and submit their software for notarization by Apple. Digitally signing software with a unique Developer ID and including a notarization ticket from Apple lets Gatekeeper verify that the software is not known malware and has not been tampered with."

Wow, so I'll be able to side load apps into my car because the car entertainment system is a dominant platform for my specific car brand*. What could possibly go wrong?

* it's the only platform, ergo it's the dominant platform.
Not a valid comparison. An automotive entertainment system is not a general purpose computing platform.
 
Yep, that is certainly Apple perspective, and it is amazing that you pointed out something that Apple spends millions on hiding.
? Hiding… Okay.

It’s those words that get displayed when setting up a device, you scroll by, then click (I) Agree without any consideration.


But I am not talking about Apple's software, I am talking about third party software that should be able to be run on my devices.

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Not a valid comparison. An automotive entertainment system is not a general purpose computing platform.
That is a farcical separation. There is no such thing as general purpose computing.

By your reasoning game consoles and cars are specific purpose computing devices, but:
  • Game consoles can stream video and have web browsers (office online anyone?).
  • Car infotainment systems allow for installable or non-car-specific applications. A Tesla can even run Netflix or video games so you can be entertained while charging.
By the same reasoning a phone is specific purpose device. It is primarily defined to be a PHONE. The fact it has evolved to also run other apps does not negate the fact it is a PHONE. (or, "a PHONE. an IPOD, an INTERNET COMMUNICATOR. Are you getting it yet?" -SJ 2007)

The fact is that all of these devices - PC, Mac, iPhone, iPad, Xbox, PS5, TVs - are COMPUTING DEVICES as they have a CPU, RAM, Storage, and an OS. Some are more locked down that others for various reasons, but they are all essentially computing devices.

Locking the car down for vehicular safety makes sense. Locking a phone (iOS or Android) down for general user protection makes sense. There are an order of magnitude more iPhones, iPod touch, iPad, Android phone and tablets than there are Macs. So equating the use cases and user base of phone vs Macs is not a clear parallel. The number of devices in the wild; the profile of user; the type of data available to a bad actor is significantly more voluminous and sensitive than what many users have on the Macs or PCs. And phones are always with us and always on. Again, unlike most PCs and Macs.

Edit: All that said, I would like to see the iPad Pro M1 open up a bit. It could support some level of additional capability. But I would still expect App Store and/or signed apps only. No wide open installation. But I would also expect that to be a forked "Pro" version of iPad OS or MacOS on iPad.
 
According to the Amazon website, their tablets receive at least 4 years of security updates after the product is no longer for sale. Even though it is not a true Android device, it is an example of how Android is different.
Apple products update until they are no longer compatible with the newest OS.
My Samsung tablet came with Android 9. Updated to 10, then 11.
Game over. It will loose all support from Samsung before my Fire tablet does.
So switching to Android for the sake of side-loading isn't as easy as you think.
 
Some here might know that I’m very critical of Apple App Store practices. But this bill requiring closed OS systems to support side loading its a cannon to kill a fly. I was afraid this to ever come as the political solution … I personally don’t think such a calibre would be necessary …

To be honest I blame Apple policies. The company has been in the forefront of creating and enforcing predatory practices over digital businesses with its App Store policies, winging their power like a child. A practice than copied by you know who.

In my opinion, if Apple sticked with fees to things the App Store actually sells and provides distribution facilities for - software programs - we would probably not be having this discussion. But no, they put the long term revenue aside, risk it all, go for the short term revenue and go after the value digital services bring to their platform charging for their sales in app. There is no Miracle here.

PS: If HomePod serves as a lesson it is that Apple only services is not where users in general see the value in Apple solutions.
 
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