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Something is wrong with these numbers. I have seen zero Chromebooks in the wild. Well actually I believe I have seen 1 ever. And all I see is MacBooks, everywhere. No one is buying Chromebooks. I'm sure this is somehow skewed data. Distribution channels, not actual sales.

Chromebooks are making a presence in many large businesses, I've been seeing more of them in the past year. Like you I was thinking where has anyone actually seen one in use out in the public?
 
Speculation? Lenovo made LESS money than Apple on nearly four times the volume!! That's one misstep away from big trouble, especially since they can't differentiate their hardware from other PC makers.

Sony LOST money on much of their business. If it wasn't for Sony Pictures ($509 million profit) they'd have been in the red!

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I'm sure you felt the same way about Compaq back in the day...
How'd you feel about DEC and Wang?

I am speculating on the "near future"... It seems you are saying that some of these companies are in such a dire situation that their demise is imminent. I just don't think that is the case.

I certainly think Apple is in much better shape than many of their competitors in terms of product and service offerings. Obviously, they have a boat load of cash, too!
 
I am speculating on the "near future"... It seems you are saying that some of these companies are in such a dire situation that their demise is imminent. I just don't think that is the case.
I said they're one misstep away from bankruptcy. There's nothing in that to conclude that they couldn't possibly avoid that misstep indefinitely. So no, I didn't say their demise is imminent. I would say that they're not in good positions and for that reason (among others) I wouldn't want to invest much in their products as a potential customer.
 
Sorry, this is completely wrong. Chromebooks can not be compared to a MacBook. A closer comparison would be compared to an iPad but as an iPad has a lot more functionality that would be wrong too. A netbook maybe? And chromebooks will suffer the same blow in time

I've got a 2013 Macbook Air, iPad Air and a decent Windows Machine.

I'm finding I can pretty much do everything I need to do on the Chromebook as more and more as more and more of what I do moves to the cloud.

The iPad is great for consumption, but the Chromebook is much better for content creation with a full keyboard. Much more similar to a Macbook Air.

Unlike netbooks which were underpowered PC's running a bloated OS, the lightness of ChromeOS means a huge amount of overhead is reduced when running web-based applications that can run in the browser.
 
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Thanks for informing me that Chromebooks are more popular than MacBooks.

Thanks for telling is how iPads are losing ground.

It's hard to get this information otherwise because it isn't true.

iPads and MacBooks are selling in record numbers.

Proof will come in January 2014.

Please bookmark this page, come back and tell me that iPad and MacBook sales were destroyed by Chromebooks.

Double dare you lol.
 
Chromebooks are making a presence in many large businesses, I've been seeing more of them in the past year. Like you I was thinking where has anyone actually seen one in use out in the public?

Ok, well that simply means they are cannibalizing Windoze-based sales like Dell, Acer, Lenovo, etc.
 
It would be nice if there was a tablet that had some type of programming availability (locally). Even if in a sand box.

I could do HTML on my Surface, but I think that's about the limit.

Of course I think the ability to have a compiler on board would greatly interfere with the "store" philosophy that pretty much everyone has gone to now.
 
What exactly is Commercial Channel? Obviously it is only a percentage of overall sales since it states that 14.4 million desktops, notebooks and tablets were sold thru Nov 2013.
 
ChromeOS is a pitiful excuse of an OS. By far the worst I have ever used.

I found that out the hard way. I bought one as a replacement for my laptop on the go and I couldn't do half of what I needed to do which left me with a Chromebook that I was wondering why I bought in the first place!
 
Chromebook is not a real laptop. It's an overpriced toy that is essentially useless in the real world. Macbooks continue to dominate in the real laptop market segment with the world's most advanced operating system OS X.

The real world of browsing the net, social interaction and checking your e-mail?

Or are you reffering to the real world of business, where everyone is using Macbooks and the worlds most advanced OS /sarcasm

Why do you think alot of people have moved from laptops to Ipad, and why Ipad is so damn popular, the real world is changing ;)
 
Whats really funny is that ppl keep saying that they can pretty much do everything on a chromebook that they would do on a pc. When all you can do on a chrome book is use google apps, sur the web and check emails... PLEASE stop comparing (low end tablets that look like laptops) with real computers..(PC/MACS)
 
Chromebooks and MacBooks are not really in the same class. I iPad and Chromebook would be a closer comparison.
 
Yes, common folks are buying these products. Just not from Apple in great numbers. How can you say with a straight face that having 15% tablet share is good when that number was so much higher. Apple dominated the tablet market after ipad 1. They haven't adjusted. Just look at the ipads price and memory configuration; $500 at 16gig. Hasn't changed since the original release. And the ipad mini got a price increase in the face of capable devices costing half as much.
And don't let me start on Apple's computer business. The vast majority of people are cheapskates and Apple products are not even options to consider. No one wants to pay $1000 to check emails and browse the Internet.

Not many? 14 million latest generation iPads in one quarter is your definition of "not many"?

It took Apple an entire year to sell that many iPad 1s.

Personally, I couldn't care less about whatever axe you have to grind. But as a consumer, I am very glad Apple hasn't followed your and your ilk's advice. Otherwise, my iPhone would have have of its screen used up by a physical keyboard, the iPad would not have come to fruition (and instead Apple would have released a netbook) and my Apple computer would be running Windows 8 (and inundated with bloatware).

There are plenty of brands of laptops that run Windows 8 (though strangely, the better ones look like a Macbook), plenty of all in ones that run Windows 8 (though strangely, the better ones look like iMacs). They are not hard to find at your local Best Buy, they are the computers that have all kinds of stickers all over them. There are plenty of tablets that run Windows 8 (though, lord help you if you are not savvy because they are a btich to set up and learn to use). There are also plenty of tablets that run Android... just look for any $99 special at the drugstore, it is almost guaranteed to be running Android.

There is no need for Apple to follow in the footsteps of the Dells and the Microsofts of the world.
 
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Something is wrong with these numbers. I have seen zero Chromebooks in the wild. Well actually I believe I have seen 1 ever. And all I see is MacBooks, everywhere. No one is buying Chromebooks. I'm sure this is somehow skewed data. Distribution channels, not actual sales.

You're right...I mean if you haven't seen one, no way anyone has bought one. They should have just asked you for a rough estimate of what you see in a typical day and ran with that. It would've been much easier and probably way more accurate.

Maybe Gallup should stop wasting time on all their surveys and call you as well. With you having the pulse on society, it would save them a lot of time/money and make their jobs easier.
 
Chromebook is not a real laptop. It's an overpriced toy that is essentially useless in the real world. Macbooks continue to dominate in the real laptop market segment with the world's most advanced operating system OS X.
I would agree that Chromebook is not a real laptop in the same way that an iPad is not a real replacement for a laptop.
The thing is that both Chromebooks and iPads (and Android tablets) can do most of the tasks that most people use laptops for.
 
Something is wrong with these numbers. I have seen zero Chromebooks in the wild. Well actually I believe I have seen 1 ever. And all I see is MacBooks, everywhere. No one is buying Chromebooks. I'm sure this is somehow skewed data. Distribution channels, not actual sales.

Agreed. Kind of odd. I've never seen one of these on a plane or in an airport or other public place. Odd statistics.
 
I would agree that Chromebook is not a real laptop in the same way that an iPad is not a real replacement for a laptop.
The thing is that both Chromebooks and iPads (and Android tablets) can do most of the tasks that most people use laptops for.

Chromebook can't do iTunes
Chromebook can't do photoshop
Chromebook can't do iOS development
Chromebook can't do Facetime
Chromebook can't do iMovie
Chromebook can't do iPhoto
Chromebook can't do full email

On and on and on you go. Chromebook does not meet the needs of the vast majority of laptop consumers.
 
Purchased two Chromebooks

Great computer for a lot of typical tasks. Got one for each of my boys.

They're selling... they do have a place in the world.
 
Chromebook can't do iTunes
Chromebook can't do photoshop
Chromebook can't do iOS development
Chromebook can't do Facetime
Chromebook can't do iMovie
Chromebook can't do iPhoto
Chromebook can't do full email

On and on and on you go. Chromebook does not meet the needs of the vast majority of laptop consumers.

Did not you notice that your list also applies to iPad and yet people are buying it? Also, Windows laptops can't do most of the things on your list and yet they are quite popular ;)
 
Google: skewed numbers.

In October 2013, Google stated 1 in 5 school districts were using Chromebooks:

http://gigaom.com/2013/10/03/1-in-5-u-s-school-districts-now-using-chromebooks-says-google-vp/

Those purchases don't reflect consumer choice, they don't indicate a true consumer interest in the product, and once a school has Chromebooks, they won't be replacing them any time soon, implying these numbers are short term spikes. Hint: Google knows this.

Chromebooks represented roughly 10% of the US commercial channel market from January to November of 2013.

It might help if I knew what "commercial channel" meant. Which retailers does that include? Or which does it exclude?

Otherwise... they're saying 1 out of every 10 desktops, laptops, Android tablets, iPads, etc... was a Chromebook.

Really? That seems high.


EDIT: EbookReader provided the above link that said "commercial channel" was businesses, schools, government and other organizations.

This chart does NOT represent the general consumer market. Those are the numbers I'm interested in.
 
Chromebook can't do iTunes
Chromebook can't do photoshop
Chromebook can't do iOS development
Chromebook can't do Facetime
Chromebook can't do iMovie
Chromebook can't do iPhoto
Chromebook can't do full email

On and on and on you go. Chromebook does not meet the needs of the vast majority of laptop consumers.

Many people only use a computer for email, Facebook and internet access.
 
Did not you notice that your list also applies to iPad and yet people are buying it? Also, Windows laptops can't do most of the things on your list and yet they are quite popular ;)

iPad is designed to compliment a laptop not replace it entirely. Chromebook is a bridge to nowhere device. It doesn't do anything better than existing products in the Apple store.
 
Chromebook can't do iTunes
Chromebook can't do photoshop
Chromebook can't do iOS development
Chromebook can't do Facetime
Chromebook can't do iMovie
Chromebook can't do iPhoto
Chromebook can't do full email

On and on and on you go. Chromebook does not meet the needs of the vast majority of laptop consumers.

Do you really think the vast majority of laptop users count on their laptops to use photoshop, iOS development, FaceTime,iPhoto?? GTFOOH!

You dont think more users surf the net, do email, social media and consume content??? (All of which can be done on a Chromebooks, a Pc or a Mac.)
 
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