Oh yes, that's the one, 256GB, that's lucky!
Actually I've just realised that mine is a 256GB, probably Samsung as well
Cheers
Hugh
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Actually I've just realised that mine is a 256GB, probably Samsung as well
Cheers
Hugh
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So you just need this type of converter https://www.delock.com/produkte/S_62495/merkmale.html
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Haha great Hugh Gigabytes-Schmigabytes
Vielen Dank Bob. I just read in this old thread about different adapters with and without "buck converter". Does the one you link to have that contraption?
As I understand it adapters with such a thing will handle the 5-3,3v conversion more efficiently, resulting in less heat. Or something like that.
Gigabytes-SchmigabytesOh yes, that's the one, 256GB, that's lucky!
Actually I've just realised that mine is a 256GB, probably Samsung as well
Cheers
Hugh
Vielen Dank Bob. I just read in this old thread about different adapters with and without "buck converter". Does the one you link to have that contraption?
As I understand it adapters with such a thing will handle the 5-3,3v conversion more efficiently, resulting in less heat. Or something like that.
Yep, the red Delock-converter sports that "buck converter" whatever it is good for.
I disassembled the converter to have a look under the hood - that buck-thing can be seen on the picture on post #20
Besides the overheating litte 12" PB I have no complaints about the converter-combo within the 15/17" G4-PB or the Clamshell.
Hope I'm not overstaying my welcome with all these questions
I checked at Everymac.com and it seems the RAM specs are the same for the 15" and the 17" DLSD, is that right?
I'm asking because at the moment I only see RAM for the 17" model on the Bay. As I'd really like to put 2GB in the 15" DSLD which arrives tomorrow I'm wondering if I can buy such a RAM stick instead.
Here are two examples
And has anyone tried using a larger-capacity battery, like the one I linked to earlier, in the 15 DLSD?
Thanks very much in advance
I checked at Everymac.com and it seems the RAM specs are the same for the 15" and the 17" DLSD, is that right?
I'm asking because at the moment I only see RAM for the 17" model on the Bay. As I'd really like to put 2GB in the 15" DSLD which arrives tomorrow I'm wondering if I can buy such a RAM stick instead.
Here are two examples
Arbeitsspeicher 1 GB RAM für Apple PowerBook G4 17'' M9970LL/A | eBay
Arbeitsspeicher 1 GB RAM für Apple PowerBook G4 17'' M9970LL/A | Computer, Tablets & Netzwerk, Computer-Komponenten & -Teile, Arbeitsspeicher (RAM) | eBay!
www.ebay.nl
1GB RAM Memory Apple PowerBook G4 1.67GHz (17-inch) (Hi-Res DDR2) (DDR2-4200) | eBay
1GB RAM Memory Apple PowerBook G4 1.67GHz (17-inch) (Hi-Res DDR2) (DDR2-4200) | Computers/Tablets & Networking, Computer Components & Parts, Memory (RAM) | eBay!
www.ebay.nl
And has anyone tried using a larger-capacity battery, like the one I linked to earlier, in the 15 DLSD?
Thanks very much in advance
I'd wait for the PowerBook and check, if both socket are working and hold a working RAM-brick each.Hope I'm not overstaying my welcome with all these questions
I checked at Everymac.com and it seems the RAM specs are the same for the 15" and the 17" DLSD, is that right?
I'm asking because at the moment I only see RAM for the 17" model on the Bay. As I'd really like to put 2GB in the 15" DSLD which arrives tomorrow I'm wondering if I can buy such a RAM stick instead.
Here are two examples
Arbeitsspeicher 1 GB RAM für Apple PowerBook G4 17'' M9970LL/A | eBay
Arbeitsspeicher 1 GB RAM für Apple PowerBook G4 17'' M9970LL/A | Computer, Tablets & Netzwerk, Computer-Komponenten & -Teile, Arbeitsspeicher (RAM) | eBay!www.ebay.nl1GB RAM Memory Apple PowerBook G4 1.67GHz (17-inch) (Hi-Res DDR2) (DDR2-4200) | eBay
1GB RAM Memory Apple PowerBook G4 1.67GHz (17-inch) (Hi-Res DDR2) (DDR2-4200) | Computers/Tablets & Networking, Computer Components & Parts, Memory (RAM) | eBay!www.ebay.nl
And has anyone tried using a larger-capacity battery, like the one I linked to earlier, in the 15 DLSD?
Thanks very much in advance
If yes, you may go for two 1GB-RAM-modules. If one is faulty, you need to get a 2GB-module.
No idea about the batteries. My only experience and advise: buy only one and use it regularly as long as possible, until it starts to swell, since quality of most batteries is likewise poor.
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@pullman Were it not for questions, what would be the point of message boards?
Great suggestion, thank you Bob. The beauty arrived today and looks great. So exciting! Some scratches and the odd minor ding but honestly the casing looks better than my 2013 MBPr.
It turns out that it has two 512MB modules installed so both slots work, yay.
Does anyone know what Everymac means by the statement that the 15" DLSD "is equipped with a revised logicboard that uses faster RAM"? I'm wondering because for both 1,67GHz models Everymac states that the minimum RAM speed is 333MHz.
thank you, I really do appreciate all the help you guys are giving me here.
Ah, that could be. I have emailed the seller but so far no reply.
Interestingly, the computer turns on with the power cord connected but Leopard says "Not Charging" in the menu bar. System Profiler reports that the battery has a full charge capacity of 3786 mAh and Condition Good, which is not bad methinks. Cycle Count says 0, though.
Does this indicate a faulty power supply or a faulty battery or a faulty connector somewhere (power connector or battery compartment)?
It turns out that it has two 512MB modules installed so both slots work, yay.
Does anyone know what Everymac means by the statement that the 15" DLSD "is equipped with a revised logicboard that uses faster RAM"? I'm wondering because for both 1,67GHz models Everymac states that the minimum RAM speed is 333MHz.
thank you, I really do appreciate all the help you guys are giving me here.@pullman Were it not for questions, what would be the point of message boards?
Ah, that could be. I have emailed the seller but so far no reply.
Interestingly, the computer turns on with the power cord connected but Leopard says "Not Charging" in the menu bar. System Profiler reports that the battery has a full charge capacity of 3786 mAh and Condition Good, which is not bad methinks. Cycle Count says 0, though.
Does this indicate a faulty power supply or a faulty battery or a faulty connector somewhere (power connector or battery compartment)?
The original Apple batteries for the 15" PowerBook are 4400 (I'm lucky enough to have one at 100% capacity), and my 3rd party spare is also 4400 mAh.
I have a feeling that the 5200 is not the true capacity
Cheers
Hugh
The DLSD uses DDR2; its predecessor commonly referred to as SLSD uses DDR1.
@pullman can I just say, the title of your thread reminds me a lot of my own similar thread not too long ago,
I think I might be about to do something silly...
Fast-forward about 3 months, and am in knee-deep with several old machines and computer guts laid out all around my study. Just be careful as you wander down this very dangerous path
I think I might be about to do something silly...
Fast-forward about 3 months, and am in knee-deep with several old machines and computer guts laid out all around my study. Just be careful as you wander down this very dangerous path
Hahaha, yes! It's addictive. I'm currently spying a 17" PowerBook. Luckily it's in my native Sweden and I couldn't get it to the Netherlands very easily so I might refrain. But it's only 10 Euros.....
I'm enjoying every little step along this path
I'm enjoying every little step along this path
@pullman can I just say, the title of your thread reminds me a lot of my own similar thread not too long ago,
I think I might be about to do something silly...
Fast-forward about 3 months, and am in knee-deep with several old machines and computer guts laid out all around my study. Just be careful as you wander down this very dangerous path
I have now managed to install the Delocked mSATA. Following these instrux I created a bootable USB for Leopard but that obviously (duh) didn't work because the drive is empty. I had to laugh at myself.
The error message said that the computer needed to have at least Tiger 10.4 (.2 I think) or Leopard installed.
Since I don't have any double layer DVDs at home I burnt a Tiger .iso and installed that.
It all seems to have gone well. The installer completed and started to reboot the machine. But it didn't restart. So I pressed the power button and it began to boot, showing the white logo and progress bar against a blue screen.
But then it beach balled at the blue screen, mouse pointer/beach ball frozen.
Has any one of you encountered this behaviour?
Since I don't have a DL DVD handy, are there other options for installing Leopard, for instance could I do it via target disk mode for instance?
Oh btw I am able to boot in single user mode, to the command prompt. EDIT: Well hang on a minute. When I type sh /etc/rc to boot but stay in single user mode the screen rattles off various things and then freezes. There is some info there about "mMatchingIndex failed in AppleOnboardAudio.cpp" and that "mDNSPlatformSendUDP sendto failed to send packet on an Interface ID".
Notwithstanding the above, all fun and games! I mean it, i really really love this computer. In a way I've missed all the noises computers used to make, from the different sounds of the fans at various rpm to the CD/DVD drive which always seemed to actually consume the disc inserted. It's such a lovely visceral experience to use a mechanical notebook again.
The error message said that the computer needed to have at least Tiger 10.4 (.2 I think) or Leopard installed.
Since I don't have any double layer DVDs at home I burnt a Tiger .iso and installed that.
It all seems to have gone well. The installer completed and started to reboot the machine. But it didn't restart. So I pressed the power button and it began to boot, showing the white logo and progress bar against a blue screen.
But then it beach balled at the blue screen, mouse pointer/beach ball frozen.
Has any one of you encountered this behaviour?
Since I don't have a DL DVD handy, are there other options for installing Leopard, for instance could I do it via target disk mode for instance?
Oh btw I am able to boot in single user mode, to the command prompt. EDIT: Well hang on a minute. When I type sh /etc/rc to boot but stay in single user mode the screen rattles off various things and then freezes. There is some info there about "mMatchingIndex failed in AppleOnboardAudio.cpp" and that "mDNSPlatformSendUDP sendto failed to send packet on an Interface ID".
Notwithstanding the above, all fun and games! I mean it, i really really love this computer. In a way I've missed all the noises computers used to make, from the different sounds of the fans at various rpm to the CD/DVD drive which always seemed to actually consume the disc inserted. It's such a lovely visceral experience to use a mechanical notebook again.
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It is definitely possible to make a USB Leopard installer, this video from the great channel Action Retro has a tutorial -
If you end up getting a lot of machines, I would recommend you buy a Firewire external hard drive for installs, or generally transferring data. I have a few Lacie Rugged ones, including the Triple which is great and I've had for a few years - it is USB 3.0/FW400/FW800 which is great because it can also function as a modern USB3 drive for modern machines (so also it is easier to justify the purchase
.But I also found for cheap recently a couple of the older USB 2.0/FW versions which are great for this purpose too - just create a series of partitions in the drive for Jaguar/Tiger/Leopard, etc. (For some reason I couldn't get OS9 to install this way though). It saves you the pain of having to burn CDs/DVDs, and bypasses older and unreliable optical drives.
Which version of Tiger? Boot in single user & run
uname -r
If you get 8.0.0 (only the second number is important) the version is too old for the DLSD. The CD version (which I presume you have used) is either 8.0 or 8.2 & the machine requires a custom 8.2.
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This is what I'm using my G4 mini as (in TDM) when it's not running OS 9.
Not to mention the tactile keyboard, discreet button-accompanied trackpad, front latch, specially-designed power button, and expansive I/O, to say nothing of the specs.
A great backdrop for what I am of the opinion is the closest to perfection machine family the world has seen thus far.
This is something I'll never understand. Computers should not make any noise as noise only distracts the user from the actual work.
(Yes, I know I might just have started a flame war
)Great, thank you for linking to that. I'll try that option, which is considerably easier than the instrux I followed.
Thank you also for the suggestion re FW drives. That sounds very handy indeed. More kit!
Thanks for this. You're absolutely spot on, I installed the wrong version, gaah. Rookie mistake...
Thank you also for the suggestion re FW drives. That sounds very handy indeed. More kit!
It is definitely possible to make a USB Leopard installer, this video from the great channel Action Retro has a tutorial -. Keep in mind it will be very slow as through USB 1.1, but it will work.
If you end up getting a lot of machines, I would recommend you buy a Firewire external hard drive for installs, or generally transferring data. I have a few Lacie Rugged ones, including the Triple which is great and I've had for a few years - it is USB 3.0/FW400/FW800 which is great because it can also function as a modern USB3 drive for modern machines (so also it is easier to justify the purchase
But I also found for cheap recently a couple of the older USB 2.0/FW versions which are great for this purpose too - just create a series of partitions in the drive for Jaguar/Tiger/Leopard, etc. (For some reason I couldn't get OS9 to install this way though). It saves you the pain of having to burn CDs/DVDs, and bypasses older and unreliable optical drives.
Thanks for this. You're absolutely spot on, I installed the wrong version, gaah. Rookie mistake...
You should try to get Panther running on it (... not - unstable as heck).
I come from the ancient PC world. My first PC was a 386 in 1990, Back then you could do things and expect nothing to happen or not work a majority of the time. When there is a steady blinking disk access light on the front panel it was always helpful to put your ear to the case. If you could hear the HD randomly accessing you knew things were happening. But if the noise was steady you knew the program or whatever you wanted to do wasn't working.This is something I'll never understand. Computers should not make any noise as noise only distracts the user from the actual work.
(Yes, I know I might just have started a flame war
PSU noise was also a major reason I started leaving computers on around 1990. I have Tinnitus, so fans often act as white noise that allow me to concentrate. I also leave the TV on for the same reason - background noise. It wasn't much different from the fact that fans to cool a room or space heaters to heat it were also on all night. My parents house did not have central and was hot in the summer and cold in the winter.
Without that, the ringing in my ears can sometimes become too loud to ignore.
So do I - my PCs were as loud as a hairdryer and as flashy as a Christmas tree
until the G5s we got at school demonstrated computers could be quiet (when idling) and I was determined to quiet down my box too.Sorry to hear about your tinnitus