The apple video showed wrapping your entire hand around a phone..and some signal drop/loss. If I do that to my Storm I can get it to drop one bar. But there is a big difference between tightly palming a phone and touching one spot on the side and the entire signal going away resulting in a dropped call. One issue is normal...the other (single touch to one spot on the exposed metal antenna) is a design flaw.
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The apple video showed wrapping your entire hand around a phone..and some signal drop/loss. If I do that to my Storm I can get it to drop one bar. But there is a big difference between tightly palming a phone and touching one spot on the side and the entire signal going away resulting in a dropped call. One issue is normal...the other (single touch to one spot on the exposed metal antenna) is a design flaw.
2 questions:
First, why wasn't Jonny I at the press gig yesterday - thought he would want to defend his design team.
Second, why when anyone says anything remotely critical of Apple on these forums do they become a 'troll' or other term of abuse? Jeez, you'd think they'd drawn a cartoon of Jobs as Bin Laden or similar!
Grow up, welcome reasoned debate. I love Apple's products - design, function, everything just puts them no. 1 for me. I spend more time holding my iPhone than my d*ck!!
This time Apple fell of their perch. Admit it. They had time to test this thing fully before launch but they were too busy polishing their egos to get the job done right. A good craftsman measures twice & cuts once!
First, why wasn't Jonny I at the press gig yesterday - thought he would want to defend his design team.
Second, why when anyone says anything remotely critical of Apple on these forums do they become a 'troll' or other term of abuse? Jeez, you'd think they'd drawn a cartoon of Jobs as Bin Laden or similar!
Grow up, welcome reasoned debate. I love Apple's products - design, function, everything just puts them no. 1 for me. I spend more time holding my iPhone than my d*ck!!
This time Apple fell of their perch. Admit it. They had time to test this thing fully before launch but they were too busy polishing their egos to get the job done right. A good craftsman measures twice & cuts once!
How is that trolling. Apple does attack competiors. No other smartphone maker has the same severe issues as Apple. Apple also attacked Microsoft with every "I'm A Mac" ad.
What I don't understand is all the one finger comments I have read in this thread. Ok yes we realize that you can gap the antenna with one finger, but if people no this and continue to do it expecting different results doesn't that make them a little crazy?
I understand that the design may have that one flawed spot, but is it really that difficult to avoid the tiny spot when you are gripping the phone. I understand people will just say "I paid 1 million dollars for this phone and I should be able to hold it anyway I want" Ok great but since you can't hold it anyway you want your options are to avoid the spot you are completely aware exists so that you can use your phone without issue, or you can return your phone. Trying to make apple look bad for not doing a hardware change (nearly impossible to do at this point) is going to be a fruitless endeavor.
As for Apple throwing other companies under the bus I really didn't see it. All they were trying to do with the whole press conference was to show how out of proportion this whole thing has been blown by the media. With such a small user base being affected they had to show that they are not the only ones and I thought that SJ did a good job of not making the other phones look bad (he did comment on how good they are) but instead was just establishing that no phone is perfect in regards to signal issues.
I understand that the design may have that one flawed spot, but is it really that difficult to avoid the tiny spot when you are gripping the phone. I understand people will just say "I paid 1 million dollars for this phone and I should be able to hold it anyway I want" Ok great but since you can't hold it anyway you want your options are to avoid the spot you are completely aware exists so that you can use your phone without issue, or you can return your phone. Trying to make apple look bad for not doing a hardware change (nearly impossible to do at this point) is going to be a fruitless endeavor.
As for Apple throwing other companies under the bus I really didn't see it. All they were trying to do with the whole press conference was to show how out of proportion this whole thing has been blown by the media. With such a small user base being affected they had to show that they are not the only ones and I thought that SJ did a good job of not making the other phones look bad (he did comment on how good they are) but instead was just establishing that no phone is perfect in regards to signal issues.
The take away here is that RIM and Nokia study human behavior and recognizing that there is a potential problem with how you hold the phone make every effort to minimize the problem. Apple design decision just makes it too easy to create the problem. Hence free bumper cases.
I4is the best one yet! I use mine with a bumper because it iknow I will drop it. However, I have used it for 5 days without a bumper and did not drop calls.
I look at it this way, I van use it without a bumper and it still works fine. I use it with a bumper, and not only does it work fine, it protects and molds the phone in plastic like every other phone on the market without adding bulk or weight.
This problem/leap in tecnology will be fixed in about 340 days anyways and I am sure I will be there to drop another 199 to upgrade.
I can use the phone as advertised. My OCD is what had me worked up about the bars. Although, during business hours I uses a bumper to maximize performance and protection.
I look at it this way, I van use it without a bumper and it still works fine. I use it with a bumper, and not only does it work fine, it protects and molds the phone in plastic like every other phone on the market without adding bulk or weight.
This problem/leap in tecnology will be fixed in about 340 days anyways and I am sure I will be there to drop another 199 to upgrade.
I can use the phone as advertised. My OCD is what had me worked up about the bars. Although, during business hours I uses a bumper to maximize performance and protection.
I disagree. I think it was very smart at all. In fact, I feel that Steve's credibility tanked in the eyes of many with the the approach they've taken. Thinly disguising a denial of the issue by referencing low support call stats and comparing it (unfairly by the way) in tests against other phones. What I mean by "unfairly" is that there isn't any other phone that you can take a single finger and simply touch one spot and destroy the signal. This is true of the iPhone.
The proof is in the pudding. Meaning, if they believed what they suggested about such a low percentage of affected units, then you'd simply be able to take it in and exchange it for one of the 99%+ "unaffected units", right? Well, that's not an option their offering. Why? Because they know darn well that they're all affected and if the masses started going through replacements to try getting one that worked, then Apple would be in the red within two weeks. So, they offer the band-aid fix as a way to cut their losses.
I know there are many who are gullible enough to believe the show Steve put on , but there are many others who saw right through it and lost respect for Steve and Apple. I must admit I was a bit shocked at how low and deceiving his reaction was.
Find the part of their statement in which they affirm that their products do NOT suffer from grip-related signal degradation.
Whoops: it's not there.
RIM's statement was hollow. I'm surprised you swallowed it.