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UK iPhone 4 Updates: O2 Axes Unlimited Data and Announces Upgrade Offer, T-Mobile and 3 On Board

Posted this in another thread but it also fits here.

'Ok I have just found my celluar network data on my phone
since last august
I have sent: 1.5GB
and recieved: 14.7GB
I have never reset my data
That throws me way over the limit ;_;'

No way am I fitting under the limit.
 
Wow correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that this is the first time that Apple does something new (in this case offers to other cell phone carriers) in another country than it's home country the US.

so lucky you guys getting of O2 huh? Is it that bad like how we talk about AT&T?

T-Mobile UK is soon to have the iPhone does this mean that US T-Moblie will too? Does UK And US T-Mobile share the same frequencies?
 
ay98182 said:
This is very true. And that's why they shouldn't be surprised that they're getting this much of an outcry.

People are seeing 'Unlimited' go down to '500mb' - those two figures don't look good side by side. ;). It appears like an enormous downshift until you consider your average usage.

I wonder why O2 offered 'unlimited' plans to begin with? As a way of tempting Apple to give them the exclusive contract? Or the good publicity (which they're paying for now)?
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In practise, the Unlimited tariff did actually have a 500MB cap, but it was a true Fair Use cap - your bandwidth was throttled.

I can imagine the CEO looking at the log reports for iPhone users over the past couple years, as the iPhone got more and more successful and consumption increased, and he's saying "Why are we just thottling their bandwidth, when we can be throttling their wallets!?"

Apparently they teach that in business school. Or philosophy, or whatever the O2 CEO majored in...
 
They might share the same name, but that's about as far as it goes when comparing carriers in different companies.

The O2 prices seem a little extortionate, but the initial prices always are. Phone tariffs are always a negotiation- especially if you are up for a contract renewal- I pity anyone who ends up paying the advertised price!
 
macAllen said:
Wow correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that this is the first time that Apple does something new (in this case offers to other cell phone carriers) in another country than it's home country the US.

so lucky you guys getting of O2 huh? Is it that bad like how we talk about AT&T?

T-Mobile UK is soon to have the iPhone does this mean that US T-Moblie will too? Does UK And US T-Mobile share the same frequencies?
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I don't know about frequencies (I doubt it anyway...not very savvy on US systems), but the US is AT&T exclusive by decree, until further notice.
 
macAllen said:
Wow correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that this is the first time that Apple does something new (in this case offers to other cell phone carriers) in another country than it's home country the US.

so lucky you guys getting of O2 huh? Is it that bad like how we talk about AT&T?

T-Mobile UK is soon to have the iPhone does this mean that US T-Moblie will too? Does UK And US T-Mobile share the same frequencies?
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From my experience with 02, I've never suffered any dropped calls and from what I've heard it's not symptomatic of the network as a whole either. I think the flaming AT&T receive sounds justified given the poor service they apparently provide.
Apart from slightly less than satisfactory 3G coverage from some networks here, our gripes concern price first, and then some people who can't adjust to having to deal with customer service staff who sound indian whilst also having a far superior grasp of the english language than them.:p
 
SirHaakon said:
Uh, no... gas, water, and food are physical limited resources. Bits of data going through a wire aren't.
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That's just not correct. Why do you think there are so many discussions of 3G network speed? Speed = bandwidth in this context.
 
macAllen said:
Wow correct me if I'm wrong but I believe that this is the first time that Apple does something new (in this case offers to other cell phone carriers) in another country than it's home country the US.

so lucky you guys getting of O2 huh? Is it that bad like how we talk about AT&T?

T-Mobile UK is soon to have the iPhone does this mean that US T-Moblie will too? Does UK And US T-Mobile share the same frequencies?
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Well T-Mobile & Orange are merging so...
 
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/10099707/

ok if this is true and it just slows down. it's not a Kill switch.

I am happy with that... so long as I can get my mail.

Don't understand why they don't just do a 5p per mb over the top like orange on the iPad (£40 limit)

It's probably rare... my home internet was down last month and I hit 700mb - but normally is about 70mb

The MMS thing pisses me off more!

Am tempted to buy the phone outright and go on simplicity monthly and see if better tariffs come along.

they work out about the same if the phones remain the same price on upgrade as they did form 3g>3gs

18months x £40
iPhone £179
= £899

Simplicity
12 months (contract) x £20 - £240
5 months (monthly) x £25 = £150
Phone £499
£899

Exactly the same! So if what you are saying is correct and you can sign up now and get the unlimited data AND you can afford the high initial phone cost then yeah it's worth it!

The only other thing is the Micro sim the new iPhone takes! But that's just a matter or doing a sim swap.
 
abrooks said:
Get tethering, it offers more data. Or even better buy a MiFi or something.
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Yep that's the route I went down, with the intention of getting an iPad and cancelling my tethering with o2. When I called 3 I got a bargain deal. £10 a month for 5 gig, 12 month contract and free Mi-Fi. Only problem is I get no signal on the Mi-Fi outside built up areas. But in built up areas the signal generally knocks o2 into oblivion.
 
Will it be possible to buy two 1gb bolt ons every month giving me 2gb data?
It seems the most expensive contract right now (on iPhone 4) is £65. I already pay £90 for my contract so adding two bolt ons to the £65 won't bother me.
 
prowlmedia said:
The MMS thing pisses me off more!
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Agreed. The data limits are a bit too low still - they should be 1GB for £35/month, 2GB limit for £45/month. No more free MMS is very poor. I'm pissed off that they've reduced the number of minutes with the £45/month 18month contract though.

I don't care about unlimited text messages unless that 'unlimited' includes multimedia messages.
 
Apple-NoEscape said:
Will it be possible to buy two 1gb bolt ons every month giving me 2gb data?
It seems the most expensive contract right now (on iPhone 4) is £65. I already pay £90 for my contract so adding two bolt ons to the £65 won't bother me.
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I'm not sure you can stack bolt-ons, but if you call they might arrange something.

Alternatively you can set yourself free, and get something like this:

http://threestore.three.co.uk/broadband/?mifi=1
 
abrooks said:
Because you use more than 500MB of data month on your iPhone, suuuuuuure.
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I just checked my usage and it's 2.5GB since 20th April. And that's with a 2 week holiday abroad when I had removed the SIM.

So I am using 1.5GB+ per month. Makes the plans very expensive for me. However, I am currently on Simplicity 20 and look forward to being able to continue using that plan. Just the cost of buying the phone interests me now.
 
I am pay and go with o2.
Top up a tenner a month and get 500b "unlimited" web.

Not hit that yet and built up 100 of credit, wondering how video chat will change all that?
 
The stupid thing is, 3G was introduced so as to allow video streaming and fast data access over mobile networks. Video streaming with a 500MB limit won't get you very far though.
 
It'd be nice if they sell them unlocked but I doubt it, it'll be terms set down by the networks. Smartphones seem to be a huge strain on the mobile networks and also knowing Apple they might be getting a bit of a naff deal and so having to sell the phones at cost or near it. So they'll have to leave them locked on pay&go to try and make a profit. Just a theory though.

Journojulz said:
I am pay and go with o2.
Top up a tenner a month and get 500b "unlimited" web.
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500 bits? Well you might a page header out of it ;)
 
rebecca77 said:
Hi, I am originally from New York but I have lived in London for a while. There is much less wifi in London than in New York and San Francisco (I visit both regularly). Also, broadband in general is way slower here, even at universities, etc.
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Well I live about 30 minutes north of Philadelphia and you're more or less relegated to 3G moving about. There are isolated wifi spots here and there but it would seem that there's more use of 3G in the US (generalization) when users are not in their homes for data purposes.

I kinda thought that wifi was kind of everywhere all across Europe and that the US was way behind in that.
 
ju5tin81 said:
I was shocked that I'd only used 1.5GB over a YEAR. But, I have Wifi at home, and Wifi at work. My friends houses (and most pubs) all have it too, and I commute by underground train, so couldn't use 3G even if I wanted to. I'm the E-Commerce manager at my company, so I'm no stranger to the web, but I thought I'd've used more. The data cap was predictable, but I hope they make tethering free as a compromise.

But 20p an MMS cannot be justified. Unlimited texts as a compromise! I'm not 14. I'm a professional with elderly relatives who have no internet and like to receive pictures. Not pleased.
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Yeah, see I haven't worked at a job that has wifi open for personal use that I could connect with an iPhone. I would have to rely on 3G for that. I just kind of thought that the 3G data cap wasn't that big of a deal to the UK because they are using so much wifi. There's really not enough open access to wifi in America thus the reason for the recent outrage over the 3G data caps.
 
Sort of makes little difference to me - despite several contacts with them, I still don't have any 3G signal on O2 at home OR at the office 4 miles up the road and I live in the middle of Kent and work on a large technical business park.

Most of my colleagues jumped ship from O2 back to Orange when they saw sense and brought out decent data tariffs, so guess I may do the same.

OFCOM slammed O2 a while back as they had the worst 3G coverage in the UK and i would have thought that Apple would have taken that into consideration and denied them iPhone4.

Also still can't believe that none of the UK operators have put up costs yet for the actual phone - probably because they are just going to match pound for dollar as usual and rip us off like every other product we buy.
 
Spanky Deluxe said:
The stupid thing is, 3G was introduced so as to allow video streaming and fast data access over mobile networks. Video streaming with a 500MB limit won't get you very far though.
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It's funny that you say that because that's exactly how it was sold in the US as well. It's like the carriers can't accommodate the growth in the market they created and are now trying to discourage you from using those services. It's bizarre.

I personally think the US companies are doing it to get a handout from the Federal government to subsidize their network growth. They get to keep the big roll of cash in their pockets while crying that they don't have the money to invest in a build out to accommodate the traffic....yet they keep adding these devices to their network and enticing you to use them. Haha. I'm doing some hand-wringing and evil laughs now.
 
What the heck. Has the world just gone back in time 4 years? What a retarded move by O2.

Why not just impose a fair use policy on those who consistently take the proverbial p*ss by downloading silly amounts of data. At least that way they don't annoy their whole user base, even if most of us don't use more than 500meg/month anyway.

I will not be renewing my contract, and if they won't give me a micro sim to use with my existing (expired) contract, I'm moving away to Orange or Tesco out of principle.
 
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