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Almost as funny as the £3/Mb charge O2 hit you if you don't have a tarriff!
Lost £80 that night! the O2 homepage alone cots £5 to view
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UK iPhone 4 Updates: O2 Axes Unlimited Data and Announces Upgrade Offer, T-Mobile and 3 On Board
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Arf!
Almost as funny as the £3/Mb charge O2 hit you if you don't have a tarriff!
Lost £80 that night! the O2 homepage alone cots £5 to view
Networks in the UK (incl. T-Mobile UK) use a combination of 900MHz, 1800MHz or 2100 MHz. I believe AT&T use 850MhZ and 1900MHz. All these work on the iPhone.
T-Mobile USA uses an extra frequency 1700MHz that is not compatible with the iPhone and as I believe this is used for the down or uplink part of 3G it makes the iPhone unusable at 3G frequencies on TMob USA but the iPhone will work at 2G speeds.
I'm on Three. Service has been perfect where I am in West Yorkshire/Lancashire border. They cover more area around here than any other network which is tricky since it's all steep sided valleys and Pennine moors.
Also, unlimited data (fair usage cap of 2GB a month), unlimited text, 100 minutes, free 3 to 3 calls is £20 a month all in for me including free Nokia E71. One of the kids has a 5230 - same deal but £15 a month.
I look at the O2 deals, especially on iPhones, and think people are nuts.
It'll be interesting to see what Three's iPhone 4 tariffs are like although I'm still going to have to keep my Nokia for OviMaps and VoIP usage. Can't live without them. I suspect I'll end up with a Nokia N8 though.
i don't see the problem with three!
infact not sure you know or not but they currently offer iphone 3gs (in white or black) but only on upgrades. i rang to cancel my contract with 3 (three) and they offered me an iphone 3gs to stay with them!
i pay £20 a month and get 200 minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited 3 to 3 calls and unlimited internet and email (think its capped at 2gb though)
infact not sure you know or not but they currently offer iphone 3gs (in white or black) but only on upgrades. i rang to cancel my contract with 3 (three) and they offered me an iphone 3gs to stay with them!
i pay £20 a month and get 200 minutes, unlimited texts, unlimited 3 to 3 calls and unlimited internet and email (think its capped at 2gb though)
Three may have the best 3G network but they didn't bother with building 2G networks. Instead they rely on Orange for their 2G network outside of their areas.
So, if you can't get 3G it's like being an Orange customer, except cheaper obviously.
Three may have the best 3G network but they didn't bother with building 2G networks. Instead they rely on Orange for their 2G network outside of their areas.
So, if you can't get 3G it's like being an Orange customer, except cheaper obviously.
It's not that they don't bother building a 2G network. They don't have a licence to do so and there are no spare 2G frequencies they can have, so they borrow Orange's when needed.
I'd assumed that with the exclusive contract for iPhone and it's huge success that O2 would have been able to afford the best 3G network in the UK. However, from what I've read it's still got the worst 3G coverage of all UK networks.
I think it's crazy that they're saying the limit on data use is because the network cannot handle the current rate of increase. Why don't they invest in improving network capacity? Cutting back isn't the way forward.
I really DON'T know which network I'll go with. I've been happier with O2 than any network I've been with previously (Orange and Vodafone) but for me this is a MAJOR backward step.
As far as I'm concerned UNLIMITED DATA was the catalyst that made the iPhone the huge success it is. If people were too scared of running up large bills (like I am when I take my iPhone abroad) then the device is no longer amazing but crippled.
Thanks yeah thats what I exactly thought....
See this put me in a place where I can believe that Apple would go for other GSM networks (like UK & US T-Mobile) first than CDMA since all they have to do is just change the adaptable frequencies rather than making a whole another chip that supports CDMA in this case in the US Verizon...
O2 always had great data plans. These new rates are absurd, previously you could get an iphone on pay as you go with Ten pounds per month for unlimited data. They also had a USB data card that you purchase for Ten pounds and charge up for 15 pounds and 3GB data monthly. If you purchased your phone outright for 450 pounds on pay as you go you also got free data for one year.
A lot of people are going to be shopping around and with T-mobile being added in the UK there is now four choices.
There is one thing you are not factoring in the highest rate plans at 65 pounds include a free iphone. If you look at the simplicity plan you can see they are much cheaper because you buy the phone outright.
I'm locked in to my 35/month unlimited for another year. I'm gonna buy the iPhone 4.0 cash and use it on my current contract and when it's up, maybe I'll say adios to o2.
This is from all the way back on page 6, but seeing as we're quoting it...
Never had a problem with 3's network service. With their customer service yes and with trying to leave yes (both a while ago now and water under the bridge) but not the network. OTOH I have had several occasions on O2 with a reasonable signal at both ends when SMSes have taken 3 or 4 hours to filter through the system. YMMV based on location, perhaps.
Thanks to my office being bastards and screwing us lowly workers out of WiFi usage I end up using my 3G a fair bit to download Apps, stream on Spotify and stream the odd podcast...
At the end of all that I average 1GB a month.
I don't think that's too much to ask for for £35. Especially when I rarely, if ever, come near my SMS and Call limits.
What concerns me is that nowhere do O2 details their charges for going over these measly limits. I suspect my first bill on iPhone 4 could be into the hundreds...
These iPhone's are going to have more and more ways to get us using cool stuff online - I think O2 are concerned about Skype calling etc.
I've been ready to jump contracts for a month now, just holding off on iPhone 4 release. I look forward to seeing what the other carriers offer.
At the end of all that I average 1GB a month.
I don't think that's too much to ask for for £35. Especially when I rarely, if ever, come near my SMS and Call limits.
What concerns me is that nowhere do O2 details their charges for going over these measly limits. I suspect my first bill on iPhone 4 could be into the hundreds...
These iPhone's are going to have more and more ways to get us using cool stuff online - I think O2 are concerned about Skype calling etc.
I've been ready to jump contracts for a month now, just holding off on iPhone 4 release. I look forward to seeing what the other carriers offer.
Where have you seen that? Don't think you are right at all.
Have you not seen this...
Wrong, you won't be charged your data download speeds will be much reduced:
Source: http://blog.o2.co.uk/home/2010/06/o...cess-to-mobile-data/comments/page/2/#comments
Not sure if it applies to contract, but that is what they charge for data on pay and go.
I spent a lovely evening at an art installation in Bradford trying to find out why my £100 credit was haemorraging - not quite twigging that every O2 page i checked was costing me a fiver.
How I laughed when i found it out.
PAYG is brilliant - but make sure you top up £10 a month!
Actually something occurred to me...
I have an iPad on the o2 £2 per day on demand service... and that's 500MB per day!!!
so is that what o2 are saying 500mb's worth? why £5 on the iphone!?!!?
and if so why the complete lack of scale in the packages...
Should be if they have to do scale
£25 - 100mins - 250mb
£30 - 300 - 500
£35 - 600 - 750
£40 - 900 - 1 gb
£45 - 1200 - 1.5 gb
£60 - unlimited - 2gb
£80 - Unlimited - unlimited
then 5p per mb over the top ( though the slow down is fine by me too )
I have an iPad on the o2 £2 per day on demand service... and that's 500MB per day!!!
so is that what o2 are saying 500mb's worth? why £5 on the iphone!?!!?
and if so why the complete lack of scale in the packages...
Should be if they have to do scale
£25 - 100mins - 250mb
£30 - 300 - 500
£35 - 600 - 750
£40 - 900 - 1 gb
£45 - 1200 - 1.5 gb
£60 - unlimited - 2gb
£80 - Unlimited - unlimited
then 5p per mb over the top ( though the slow down is fine by me too )
ipad plan, as you state, is £2 per day... On iPhone is £5 per month.
Chances of useing 500meg in one day are pretty slim, assuming ipad has same 3g restrictions as ipad, you can't download 15meg+ apps, compresses YouTube/web pics.
Also there should be 750meg minimum on all plans!
i actually work for orange (and tmobile thanks to the merger), and keep up to date with the industry, although o2 I have remained loyal to, and I think it'll keep that way.
Three I predict will offer the iPhone on the best value data plan, as a network.
The problem all networks around the world have is that 3G data usage went through the roof with the release of the iPhone. We're not talking a gradual increase that could be planned for, it just went ballistic almost overnight.
They've been struggling to catch up ever since, if anything the real surprise isn't that they're capping 3G data usage (or moving towards a pay for what you use) but that it's taken so long for them to do it.
It's all right saying they should increase capacity but its not that simple, it takes time and it takes money. You only have to look at how long it will take for the networks to roll out 4G to see that a major upgrade isn't that simple. It's not cheap either so the money has to come from somewhere and with the tariffs on offer up to now they've been getting paid less and less per Gb of data.
The good thing about the UK compared is that we've got 5 networks already carrying the iPhone and possibly another in the works. Added to that the industry in the EU is pretty heavy regulated and if there is any hint of them acting against the consumer or inflating prices the EU will come down heavily on them as they have done many times in the past.