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I believe it's valid.

Apple need to apologies. I want to see it happen. Apple did not invent the tablet.

Well done UK. Great to see not everyone is blinded by the ******** created by Apple legal and marketing teams.
 
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Not a lawyer, but I can't imagine this surviving on appeal. Granted the UK is not the US, but since when do you have to publicize the loss of a case? Pay the defendant's legal fee, yes, but this seems weird to me. I could see if it were a libel case where you WON, that you would ask to have a retraction, but this is not that kind of case. Plus, why would any one who visits Apple's site care about the fact that Samsung didn't copy? Shouldn't that be more interesting to people who visit Samsung's site?

Apple has been doing a lot of libel in their cases against Samsung though. They have been accusing them of "blatant copying" in the press. Would you rather they pay damages ? If anything, this is a slap on the wrist type punishement, and only applies in the UK.
 
The notice:

"Apple alleged that Samsung copied the design of iPad. In deciding against Apple, the judge said that the Samsung product did not copy the iPad because it was "not as cool." We agree on the latter point."
 
Put the notice up next to a comparison between the packages and their USB chargers

apple-iphone-usb-cable-2007-vs-samsung-galaxy-tab-usb-cable-2010.jpg
 
Apple maybe should have toned down the media bashing and libel against Samsung if they didn't want to have to do this. You know, wait until a court has decided something before you go make claims of "blatant copying". Look how much it's been picked up by people, now Apple have to undo the damage and injury they caused with their unfounded accusations.

Exactly
 
Ha Ha. At least UK judges have a little common sense. If you let other judges approve patent status on things as general as "touch based input for mobile phone" there is no ending to the litigation possible (and money and legal fees) The new gold mine is patent lawyer (used to be doctor/ real lawyer) at least until we pull our collective heads out of our asses.

Agreed.
 
The report doesn't say where on the website the info needs to be placed. Sounds like there might be some leeway granted here and Apple will burry it somewhere where it's affect is innocuous.
 
I don't understand this at all. Unless Apple was previously asserting on their website that Samsung was copying the iPad, I don't see how they can force them to even mention another company in that way. Seems silly to me.

Exactly. Perhaps the judge is part of the borg robot drone collective.

P.S. The judge must be blind. Apple should post this - "Samsung did not copy Apple" proof:
http://www.reddit.com/r/apple/comments/kr14a/samsung_have_not_copied_apple_here_is_the_proof/
 
Can they also post that the judge said Samsung tablets are "not as cool?" That's what I would do :D

duh! @ScreenSaver400 beat me to it!
 
Apple maybe should have toned down the media bashing and libel against Samsung if they didn't want to have to do this. You know, wait until a court has decided something before you go make claims of "blatant copying". Look how much it's been picked up by people, now Apple have to undo the damage and injury they caused with their unfounded accusations.

Care to prove that libel accusation? Seems to me Apple been very careful not to say anything that could be construed as libel, even by an overzealous lawyer. I agree with Apple on the blatant copying, btw, it's simply not something that is legally problematic for Samsung because of prior examples of similar designs.

jW
 
Not a lawyer, but I can't imagine this surviving on appeal. Granted the UK is not the US, but since when do you have to publicize the loss of a case? Pay the defendant's legal fee, yes, but this seems weird to me. I could see if it were a libel case where you WON, that you would ask to have a retraction, but this is not that kind of case. Plus, why would any one who visits Apple's site care about the fact that Samsung didn't copy? Shouldn't that be more interesting to people who visit Samsung's site?

Thats civilised society in action for you! People and corporations need to be accountable for their actions.
 
Lol this judge has a sense of humor. I I'm going to visit Apple's UK site just to see this notice.
 
I see this article was published at 9:37am Pacific. I gave them the tip at 8:55am almost live with the Bloomberg scoop. This seems to be one of those stories that stayed about the same from start to finish without any major corrections along the way.

Interesting to have a non-monetary relief order. Specific performance.

Rocketman
 
I'm not agreeing or disagreeing with the Judge's ruling, but I do appreciate the enforcing of an appeasement if your claim is ultimately proved unfounded.

Regardless of the outcome, just the mere action of publicly accusing a competitor of copying can do a lot of damage to their reputation - something that can't easily be fixed with a monetary settlement.

Knowing that you might have to eat a little bit of humble pie if the case doesn't go your way could actually stop some of this "lawyer first, questions second" litigation that seems to be the norm lately.
 
Apple maybe should have toned down the media bashing and libel against Samsung if they didn't want to have to do this. You know, wait until a court has decided something before you go make claims of "blatant copying". Look how much it's been picked up by people, now Apple have to undo the damage and injury they caused with their unfounded accusations.

Did Samsung countersue for "libel"?

I don't know the UK legal system that well, but to win such a lawsuit in the United States, you'd have to prove by a preponderance of the evidence that Samsung did copy Apple and that it was illegal for them to do so. As I read the judge's explanation for finding for Samsung, it was basically that if Samsung did copy, they did a poor enough job that it wasn't proven. That's the judge's job to make that call, cool.

That does not make it false that there are elements in the Samsung tablet that clearly were inspired by iOS, and definitely does not make it false that Apple believes there was wholesale copying. The judge is ordering Apple to make what it believes is a false statement.

Now, nuance is everything. If the specifics of the order are that Apple must publish notices that Samsung was determined in court not to have violated Apple's patents, that is a true statement. But even then, requiring Apple to essentially advertise Samsung on its website seems inappropriate.
 
Thats civilised society in action for you! People and corporations need to be accountable for their actions.
And there are ways to do that - this is not one of them. I wouldn't want a judge to rule this way on any company unless this was a specific case concerning libel - of which this is not.
 
Ok Apple...here is what you post...

"Samsung did not copy the iPad. Ruling clearly states that the iPad is much 'too cool' to be confused for a Samsung device. Better luck next time Samsung."
 
Care to prove that libel accusation?

Gee...

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Ask for somethuing harder next time. Tim Cook and Steve Jobs have been on record in many interviews about "copying" while responding to questions about the lawsuits.

Seems to me Apple been very careful not to say anything that could be construed as libel, even by an overzealous lawyer. I agree with Apple on the blatant copying, btw, it's simply not something that is legally problematic for Samsung because of prior examples of similar designs.

You agree with Apple on something you say they never said... interesting.

And while you and Apple may agree, it seems the judge in this case doesn't.
 
Lol I bet Apple will include that 'not as cool as iPad' somewhere in their mandatory notice..

And they can legally prove it's true... I don't see why they wouldn't want to point that out :)

Since it was stated in open court by a Judge it is a matter of public record so I can see no way they could be prevented from repeating it
 
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