UK Judge Rules Apple Must Publish Notices Acknowledging Samsung Did Not Copy iPad

[johncarync]

 

[charlituna]

Is this judge actually serious ?

Why not have Apple hire someone to walk around in front of Apple Stores with a sign that says the same thing. That's just as stupid as this "ruling"

And I suspect that Apple will appeal on such grounds. They will probably dig around in the laws and found that there is none that gives the judge the right to make such a demand, particularly since at no point did Apple ever have claims that Samsung did copy up on their site (so they aren't being forced to 'right' some libelous claim they published) and appeal saying the Judge is overstepping his authority. And they will likely win.

Certainly at the least they will start by appealing to delay any deadline to publish until they have exhausted appeals in the actual court case.

 

[Dr McKay]

I'd expect they'd pull all iPads out of the UK before being forced to do something so stupid and weirdly unprecedented.

Yes, pull out of a market of over 63 Million people out of spite.

 

[KnightWRX]

I don't. I'm saying the same thing as the judge. The judge never said they didn't copy Apple. The judge said that Apple didn't have the right to damages from it.

The judge said and I quote :

Conclusion
The Samsung tablets do not infringe Apple's registered design No. 000181607-0001.

http://www.bailii.org/ew/cases/EWHC/Patents/2012/1882.html

Don't misrepresent the actual decision.

I'm about done with you, Knight. You've been proven wrong more times on this site than I care to remember, and you always ignore the opponents arguments and continue to argue the same points as if you're not even listening.

You haven't proven me wrong here. You've only asserted your opinion, which goes contrary to a court issued ruling. At least wait until an appeal is won and invalidates the current judgement before you try to "prove me wrong".

 

[Yamcha]

There are some Samsung tablets and smartphones that look very much like the iPad, however there are others that don't.. So I don't think we can say all Samsung mobile devices have copied Apple..

People need to be objective, I think the devices with the touchwiz interface should not be able to be sold, but the rest I think are fine..

 

[Kaibelf]

You know what's hilarious? In the UK, someone can accuse someone else of rape and the accused person's name is splashed ALL OVER the papers, but if the charges are found to be a total lie, the accuser is still unable to be identified. Yet here, the judge is making Apple go and publish a notice saying Samsung didn't copy their trade secrets because the final product was essentially too ugly? What a country.

 

[foobarbaz]

Also, Apple will apparently have to write "I must not tell lies" 200 times and go to bed without dinner.

 

[Bubba Satori]

Karma is not a beach in Bali.

 

[ristlin]

I don't. I'm saying the same thing as the judge. The judge never said they didn't copy Apple. The judge said that Apple didn't have the right to damages from it.

I'm about done with you, Knight. You've been proven wrong more times on this site than I care to remember, and you always ignore the opponents arguments and continue to argue the same points as if you're not even listening.

jW

Don't bother with that guy. It's always the same pattern. He argues his point to the bitter end until you present irrefutable evidence, at which point he says he's done with and adds you to his ignore list. It's sad really lol. If he wasn't so serious, I'd say he was a troll, but he actually thinks he is right.

 

[the-jobster]

lol! cool judge! I wonder if Samsung will sue Apple for copying if they indeed release a TV using this innovative design involving a screen and a bezel

 

[RoboCop001]

Hahaha, that's hilarious.

New commercial:

Regular guy:
So I was looking at some tablets...

cut to: Regular girl:
... and I was just so overwhelmed... I couldnt tell which one was an ipad!

Cut to random kid:
They all look the same, mummy!!

Apple Guy walks in, holding ipad, white background:
Hahah, not quite, little Billy! You see, all tablets look very different according to a ruling last month. But iPads were ruled to be the coolest! Here you go!

kid: Yay!

End screen with "iPad"

Super fast Announcer: ipad was ruled coolest in 27 countries, "coolest" is a registered trademark of Apple inc.

 

[AR999]

And I suspect that Apple will appeal on such grounds. They will probably dig around in the laws and found that there is none that gives the judge the right to make such a demand, particularly since at no point did Apple ever have claims that Samsung did copy up on their site (so they aren't being forced to 'right' some libelous claim they published) and appeal saying the Judge is overstepping his authority. And they will likely win.

Certainly at the least they will start by appealing to delay any deadline to publish until they have exhausted appeals in the actual court case.

Just lol,

Given hes the judge I think he might be familiar with what the law is.

 

[jmgregory1]

This won't hold up - Apple did not, that I've ever seen, advertise that Samsung was copying the design of the iPad. So then asking them to advertise that Samsung did not copy their design is going WAY too far. This is akin to public humiliation and Apple has only been fighting the patent battle in court, not in the court of public opinion.

 

[Bubba Satori]

Image

My $70 Falken tires look exactly the same as $300 Pirelli gumballs.

Next.

 

[rjohnstone]

...I think the devices with the touchwiz interface should not be able to be sold, but the rest I think are fine..

Why?
TouchWiz looks nothing like iOS.

The App drawer view that everyone complains about, simply puts all the apps in an alphabetical listing in a grid format. Apple doesn't own this nor did they invent this concept.
You can't change the order or location of any icon or app in the app drawer, so there is no functionality to infringe from iOS.

 

[Oletros]

That's not libel. Apple said they copied. The judge never said they didn't. He said it wasn't close enough to violate their patents. Samsung did copy Apple's designs. They simply didn't do it well enough to be legally liable.

jW

I like when people try to bend so much reality that the claims became totally nonsense.

 

[1239689]

Nice tidy pay check for the judge then... **** samsung

 

[jontech]

Apple would like to offer our sincere apologies to our Samsung friends in Korea. As a gesture of good will, we are offering a $10 coupon (15000 Won) off any new iPad for Samsung engineers.

 

[caddisfly]

Apple has been doing a lot of libel in their cases against Samsung though. They have been accusing them of "blatant copying" in the press. Would you rather they pay damages ? If anything, this is a slap on the wrist type punishement, and only applies in the UK.

no, Apple hasn't commited libel...libel is legal finding of a court with a series of specific findings of fact and intent you have to prove. If Samsung thinks it is libel, then they need to bring a case;

and, if you follow this judges ruling, if they don't prove their case, Samsung should publish on their website for 6 months that Apple was not guilty of libel.

this judge is ridiculous! Just imagine if we followed this logic around the nut-jobs who made claims around Obamacare being unconstitutional, etc now that the Supreme Ct has found otherwise.

 

[fr33 loader]

I REALLY think that it looks like the iPad on the front. I saw one with Samsungs tablet in McDonalds and damn, i had to walk over there and pretend i did something else to see if it was an iPad or not. (He had a case that looked like the iPad)

You walked all the way there to investigate? Pretending at that!
Youre hilarious!!!

Who cares what the other person is using? Go get your own so you want have time checking other peoples tablet. Or just focus on your BigMac. Lol

 

[charlituna]

Gee...

Ask for somethuing harder next time. Tim Cook and Steve Jobs have been on record in many interviews about "copying" while responding to questions about the lawsuits.



You agree with Apple on something you say they never said... interesting.

And while you and Apple may agree, it seems the judge in this case doesn't.

None of which has been proven as libel. Or even sued for as libel. It's as if the companies know they were copying but were hoping they could still get away with it legally. Which is why they hadn't bothered to sue cause it's not false.

Now if Samsung etc sue for libel and win the case then this notice might be more logical. But saying that Apple needs to make good on being caught making libelous claims when they haven't actually been found guilty in a court of law is a stretch. Especially when the 'victims' haven't even made the accusation

 

[MacCassem]

UK Judge Rules Apple Must Publish Notices Acknowledging Samsung Did Not Copy iPad

Judges are supposed to be wise and impartial. I think this particular British judge is just the opposite.

 

[Oletros]

The judge said that Apple didn't have the right to damages from it.

False, the judge said that Samsung didn't copy the iPad design

 

[aerok]

Thanks Ziggy! Sometimes you need an info graphic. Love it.

Here are more pics

 

[kdarling]

Perhaps the judge read about how Apple sent threatening letters to retailers the moment they won the Tab injunction in the USA...

... and decided that if Apple likes to do that when they win, perhaps they should do something similar but opposite when they lose.