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UK Parliamentary Bill Would Require Backdoors in Electronic Devices
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No of course not. They are going to sell you last years iPhone for the price of this years iPhone with the added security of no encryption. Yippee!
I should really buy my Apple gear from other countries, cheaper to so then buying it from my own....
Wow. Just wow. Have governments completely lost their collective minds? How do they think this will make their country any safer? They don't seem capable of processing what intelligence they already get. This makes about as much sense as having everyone in the airport take off their shoes before entering the gate; it's an ineffective and ill-conceived knee-jerk reaction to isolated problems.
Makes a change from the Tim Cook guffaw GIF, got one of those with the Apple team grimacing?
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I gotta say this place is ridiculous for that. I’m starting to believe that the country belongs to Jessops and not the crown.
They are paying the taxes they're supposed to; do you pay more tax than the law requires?
Makes me want to go build a barn somewhere and live off-grid. By then the worlds Governments will be so ignorant of traditional surveillance that they wouldn't know how to snoop on someone if it wasn't through a piece of compromised tech.
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I hope you don’t really believe that. I hope you don’t really believe that Tim is abiding by the spirit and the letter of the law as HE said, (when he had his BS mode set at full chat).
I hope you don’t think that funnelling billions of dollars that aren’t actually made there through a country that doesn’t even have a bloody Apple store is abiding by the spirit of the law. (As Tim said it was).
The EU may well find an illegal agreement as contravening the letter of the law too.
I hope you don’t really believe all that.
From the country that brought you a spy camera on every street light post in London comes the latest in government forced surveillance. I especially love the part where companies aren't allowed to even tell you their products have the back door installed (seeing how ALL of them are going to be required to have it, I think it's kind of MOOT). And since the British basically have ZERO say in their own government, it WILL be crammed down your throats. This way, when the aliens come to turn us all into Hamburger Helper, they'll know just where to find you.
Lol, oh the devices of the government will probably be exempt from their own laws. The US would do the same.
I don't funnel my taxes through Ireland, do you?
I do believe it. I take every avenue available to me in order to lower my tax burden--as do you, I have no doubt. If you have a problem with the law ask for the law to be changed. Apple is doing no different than what we all do, just on a larger scale; not to mention, again, that they have not run afoul of the law.
UK is a pretty large market to ignore. Would Apple stop selling iPhones to every country that passes a similar law, such as France?
If it was 1) legal, and 2) advantageous for me to do so I most certainly would.
You really think Apple/Google would make special operating system for their devices? I don't think so.
Apple could easily customize the firmware and hardware for specific countries. See China, for example, where they've released both wifi-less phones and currently FaceTime-audio-incapable phones (through a firmware mod that is tied to Chinese phone models, needing jailbreak to circumvent)
At the end of the day, Apple runs a business, and as such they'd rather bend over than willingly pull their product from a market.
How does this stop criminals? Can't they then just use apps that encrypt their communications and web traffic???
Or Apple can make a special version of iOS for that country, in which case the backdoor would be incompatible with the iOS used in the rest of the world.
Ok, so.
The spirit of the law is that we together live in a society that means we all pay our way and we all stay safe and have public services - I think you’ll have trouble disagreeing that is the idea behind it. It means that we take out of the system, ( for example the healthcare enjoyed by Irish Apple staff, the transport enjoyed by Irish Apple staff, street lights, fortnightly bin collection enjoyed by Irish Apple staff, police enjoyed by Irish Apple staff, fire service enjoyed by Irish Apple staff etc. etc), and we pay into it, (using tax that we evaded paying enjoyed by Irish Apple staff?????), to support the system.
Paying correctly into the system is the spirit of the law. Getting out of paying for it is Aple finding their way around the letter of the law with clever lawyers.
In the Uk you can be pulled for speeding by doing 61 in a 60. That’s the letter of the law.
You can be pulled for speeding by doing 50 in a 60 if the conditions are not right. It's called inappropriate speed and this is down to the discretion of the attending officer(s). That’s the spirit of the law.
Please don’t tell me that lying bar steward is living up to the moral standards he likes people to see him as upholding. He made that disingenuous quote as it was a good soundbite and nothing else.
As for what ‘we’ all do, speak for yourself.
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He said 'Do you?’
I believe there are only two possible truthful answers. You gave neither just like Tim.
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Everything is cheaper than buying in the UK, (aka Rip Off Britain).
Theresa May has done one good thing for the UK in her time as Home Secretary.
1 thing, that's really quite depressing isn't it?
A sad day to be a Brit. Fortunately I have the power to ensure my cat videos and emails are safe which I will if I have too. No way I want a compromised device and if that makes me a trouble maker so be it. In general I think it is a combination of a lack of comprehension amongst a certain age group and being a politician which leads to these frankly bizarre laws. If they really understood what they wanted I'd like to think any sane person would grasp that the real criminals will still be able to use some encryption on top of whatever the broken encryption. Nothing anyone can do about that.
