UK Still Demanding Global Access to iCloud User Data, Filings Suggest

[jakey rolling]

One person familiar with the case told FT they were "still very concerned this is still going on," despite public statements from U.S. officials about the UK backing down.

I mean, there aren't a lot of intelligent people in the world who would consider a public statement from any current US official to be reliable or even "truth-adjacent."

 

[jakey rolling]

Who would have thought that not every action by a government (e.g., U.K., EU, etc.) to change the software of a major company is in the best interest of consumers? We are all shocked!

That’s not to say that all that companies do are in the best interests of the consumers, but just because a government is doing something and has rationale for it, even good rationale, doesn’t inherently make it the right thing to do.

Thanks for that. That strawman was starting to look very menacing before you beat it up.

 

[jakey rolling]

I can’t think of another government that is secretly ordering a company to give it the private information of all its users across the globe - even non-citizens who have never been to the country.

There's probably a reason why you can't think of one.. maybe that bold word from your own comment will help...

 

[jakey rolling]

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Would be nice if people would stop misattributing quotes. I'm pretty sure that second one was from GW Bush.

 

[AppliedMicro]

You can get arrested for wearing the wrong shirt in the UK now

You can get arrested for anything in any country around the world.
That doesn’t mean that every arrest is lawful.

It's actually very true. Not sure if you are from the UK or not. If so you must be living under a rock...

Protester arrested over ‘Plasticine Action’ T-shirt: ‘How ridiculous is this?’

Miles Pickering says crowd at protest over Palestine Action ban was laughing at ‘silliness’ of scene as he was detained

www.theguardian.com

The article says it: He was wrongfully arrested and let go upon clarifying the misunderstanding.

 

[Jackbequickly]

Time to give the UK the middle finger!*

They are already controlling free speech. What next!

 

[GMShadow]

It's time to remind the UK that they are essentially a powerless vassal state of the United States, and that if they want to continue to benefit from our increasingly unwarranted generosity, they can shape up, or they can lose Trident and we can pull out of AUKUS.

 

[JamesMay82]

Man the UK government is getting ALOT of bad publicity recently

And well deserved as well!

This is so disappointing! After last weeks post I was expecting to get advance data protection back.

 

[Spike1999]

Typical Labour Party.

 

[mansplains]

What a fall from grace, global empire to laughingstock

 

[turbineseaplane]

Have they tried giving Trump a gift to make Tim do this?

 

[Corefile]

Typical Labour Party.

It's why the Reform party will likely win as they also use Macs.

 

[Luap]

The article says it: He was wrongfully arrested and let go upon clarifying the misunderstanding.

Wrongfully arrested only because the police wrongfully interpreted what it said on his shirt. If the shirt actually had 'Palestine' instead of 'Plasticine' on it he wouldn't have been so readily let go. As the article also says:

"He had been arrested under section 13 of the Terrorism Act 2000, which makes it an offence to wear anything supporting a proscribed organisation"

So yes, in the UK you can be 'lawfully' arrested for that.

 

[CapitalIdea]

Free speech includes the right to say things most of us find offensive, vile and disgusting.

You’d think so. Meanwhile you have to reconcile Netanyahu saying that you can’t question the actions of Israel and also be “real MAGA,” and you have Lindsay Graham posting this:

 

[212rikanmofo]

sick and tired of the satanic governments everywhere. They can't be trusted with NOTHING.

 

[chelsel]

I think a good corollary is that the UK should provide access to all UK internal government data as well.

 

[flexwithmarius]

This is the same conniving UK government that wanted Apple to stay hush about the data access request from the start.

Until their demands are formally dropped/rescinded on paper, expect them to still be pushing with maximum force.

And even then, there will still be factions in the government that will try to spin this up again in the future because they can’t take no for an answer and crave the invasion of citizens’ privacy.

 

[Greybeard2017]

This is so disappointing! After last weeks post I was expecting to get advance data protection back.

provided you already had advanced data protection when the original decision was made it never went anywhere

 

[T-R-S]

no means no.

 

[TheOldChevy]

Man the UK government is getting ALOT of bad publicity recently

As do a few other European gouvernements. Not that they do not deserve it, but some other, not better, governments are pushing for this.

(sorry for the paywall link in French, google will translate it if needed. In a nutshell, the current attacks against the French politics get are supported by Russian actors)

Faux profils, soutien d’acteurs «prorusses»... Derrière le mouvement «Bloquons tout», l’ombre d’une ingérence étrangère

DÉCRYPTAGE - Né d’une boucle Telegram en France, ce mouvement, qui appelle à se mobiliser le 10 septembre, prend de l’ampleur. De plus en plus de faux profils relayant les appels à la mobilisation voient le jour.

www.lefigaro.fr

 

[InfoTime]

If the UK is making these kinds of demands on Apple, it's reasonable to assume Google and Microsoft are getting hammered with these demands too. Wonder if they just caved and now anything you have with Google or Microsoft is now ripe for the picking for the UK government even when you're not a UK citizen.

 

[jjwwqq]

The sun is setting on the last shreds of the British Empire. Self imposed death is stupid.

 

[AppliedMicro]

So yes, in the UK you can be 'lawfully' arrested for that.

I take zero issue with criminalising hate speech or proud displays of Waffen-SS, Al-Qaeda or KKK insignia in public and support for such groups. And yes, if you violate such laws, you may be arrested. Of course. Again: I have zero issues with that.

I honestly don’t know about Palestine Action and whether it has rightfully been designated a terrorist group (which to my knowledge it was). Or if it’s just a civil protest group that’s being unfairly suppressed because of the bias of the power that be.

Can it be a slippery slope towards authoritarianism? Maybe. But I still oppose a blanket free speech policies where anything goes. Civilised societies should find a healthy balance (side note: social media make me believe that their algorithms internet and misinformation are promoting the opposite).

 

[JamesMay82]

provided you already had advanced data protection when the original decision was made it never went anywhere

I know! I threw my toys out the pram though and switched iCloud off all together... 🤦‍♂️

 

[nnoble]

I thought we already told them no?

I don’t understand why Yanks are exercised about this when Trump’s Militia are provoking civil war at home.