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Moral crusaders always have the most to hide.

So many rich folks said they were saving the world and they were visiting Epstein for his dirty money.

The Catholic Church was the moral crusader for hundreds of years and they were also the biggest child abusing organization for hundreds of years.

The Christians who tried to convert Japan in the 17th century brought guns and took 300,000 girls as slaves to sell in the west.

The Islamic regimes tell their people not to drink or go on dates or have pre marital sex but the rich elites in Saudi, Dubai and Qatar are drinking and trafficking girls from around the world and then abusing them in the worst ways possible.

Bin Ladin was trying to act like the holiest man alive but he was not only bringing death on his own people he had the biggest porn magazine collection in his house and his porn collection even travelled with him when he was on the run.

Collecting data on citizens has nothing to do with saving us. It’s about protecting the rich and powerful. They put cameras on every building in the world and crime is still high and police still useless.

They don’t mind filling your neighborhoods with crime, illegals, slaves and unaffordable housing. That’s all for you to drown in while the people at the top laugh.
 
As a parent of a daughter in her 30s, all I can say is bring it on.

If you’re objecting to the blocking of explicit images to minors, you need to rethink your position. The rise of the internet with a teen 15 years ago with limited controls was a goddamn nightmare.

One of the problems of tech. Lack of ethics in the course of invention. Never consider the ramifications of things like free porn, gore and all that other crap on young minds. Tech degrees these days usually require an ethics course. I wonder how many engineers and computer scientists slept through it, or never got to it before they dropped out while they were coming up with Facebook (born out on “would you rather” - tells you all you need to know).
 
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Is that what they're trying to do? Just remember when we thought Trump would be deporting just the criminals, rapists, drug dealers and gang members but the reality is anything but that? If you think this is to just keep kids safe, I have a bridge to sell you.
Bring a daughter into the world. It will fix this train of thought for you.
 
With all due respect, I think that you're missing the context of this, which is the effects on young people that I've mentioned above and I'm not going to repeat again.

Anyhow, that's it for me for this thread.

I'm aware that there are people who feel passionately about this argument from both sides and I'm not about to spend loads of my free time arguing my corner here (although I would if it was my job to do so :)
Spot on. His posts are revealing.
Oh god who cares what people do in the privacy of their own home? it is not the government’s place to police what kinds of consenting sex can be watched by adults. And People want those things because they find them pleasurable and erotic etc. Homosexual relationships are also unusual. Unusual or extreme is not a measurement of bad.

Skydiving is extreme. Mountain biking is extreme,

Get a dumb phone. Activate parenting apps on yourself. Uninstall social media apps.

None of that would in any shape or form be addressed by my phone censoring my own photos I swear if the Uk could you would ad a id check on Polaroid cameras just in case they take harmful pictures because a tree looks funny
1. This isn’t in the privacy of your home. It’s on a kids phone.
2. “Get a dumb phone” - lazy response. Since COVID most educational materials have gone digital. Dumb phones are useless.

Comparing skydiving and mountain biking to explicit content that damages children is absurd. The fact that you detail sexual acts on this forum that teens aren’t mature enough to understand shows your own lack of maturity. Every teen that visited this thread just googled the acts described in your post. Congrats. You contributed to the problem this tech is designed to contain. Find a moral compass.
 
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1. This isn’t in the privacy of your home. It’s on a kids phone.

It's also on my phone. Might as well be my home, too.

2. “Get a dumb phone” - lazy response. Since COVID most educational materials have gone digital. Dumb phones are useless.

I'm dying to see which schools are doing significant teaching via cell phone. Chromebooks are basically standard issue in 2025.
 
Spot on. His posts are revealing.

1. This isn’t in the privacy of your home. It’s on a kids phone.
2. “Get a dumb phone” - lazy response. Since COVID most educational materials have gone digital. Dumb phones are useless.

Comparing skydiving and mountain biking to explicit content that damages children is absurd. The fact that you detail sexual acts on this forum that teens aren’t mature enough to understand shows your own lack of maturity. Every teen that visited this thread just googled the acts described in your post. Congrats. You contributed to the problem this tech is designed to contain. Find a moral compass.
1: the fact the acts that are banned is impacting what you or indonin the privacy of outbound home and should not be legislated.
2: he explicitly states he has issues with being online= he should get a dumb phone.

These sexual acts should already be taught in sex-ed in middle school
 
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