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Unlocking the iphone

I am stating facts.

Every person who unlocks an iphone, does it, knowing that it will violate their warranty. Apple has finally figured a way to keep you people from unlocking your phones, and paying for warranty service when in fact, many of these phones were bricked by your jailbreaking and unlocking. Now if you don't like that Apple is smarter then the Dev team seems to be, at this point, thats too bad.
But if you decide you want to use a great phone, and use at&t ( a great service ), and get your apps from the app store, then more power to you.

Now if it is a dealbreaker for you. go buy a droid. It won't make a difference to any one of us here.
But you do sound a bit like Henny Penny. And I am inclined to agree with the posters who seem to suggest you might try a tinfoil hat to prevent the Alien's from getting inside your head
 
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So why can't you just restore your iphone and set it up as new?

The baseband and firmware are two separate things. When you do a restore through iTunes it does the firmware (primarily).

This, for the time being, seems to be undoable. I don't mind as mine is a second hand 3G that's well out of warranty either way, but I can see this being a harder choice for someone with a newer phone to make.

I'm guessing this is just the next step the arms race that is JB community vs Apple.
 
At this point I've lost hope for the iPhone 4. There seems to be absolutely no solution on the horizon....4.1, no go, 4.2, nothing. I thought the dev team and what not had something in the work for 4.1, but was holding out to implement in 4.2.
 
I don't even own an iphone 3g or 3gs. I just think its not moral to make people void their warranty, because they clearly have not the choice. If they do that kind of S for the iphone 4 dont worry that i'll swap my iphone 4 for a nexus and never buy an apple product again. ( i am stuck with my iphone 4 32gb locked since 3 months, can only use it as an ipod)
Well that's because you were cheating the system to use it unlocked on another network, if you had bought it officially you would not need the unlock for everyday use of your phone. You bought it to use it outside of where is supposed to work so you can't complain of the way people release free stuff for people in your situation. I have an old bootrom 3GS, so I'm waiting for the unofficial PT to be released so I can keep my iPhone BB, I use AT&T everyday and when I travel abroad is when I use my unlock from dev team. I agree that is a weird and troublesome method now, but you don't know what happened w/ the crashes for the BB of 4.1 (which does NOT equal an unlock) to consider a conspiracy theory like you so firmly believe...
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Ever heard about out-of-warranty service and applecare service ?

Also there is still a lot of 3gs on their warranty plan




I don't even own an iphone 3g or 3gs. I just think its not moral to make people void their warranty, because they clearly have not the choice.

If they do that kind of S for the iphone 4 dont worry that i'll swap my iphone 4 for a nexus and never buy an apple product again. ( i am stuck with my iphone 4 32gb locked since 3 months, can only use it as an ipod)

Since when did the dev-team force people to use their unlock/jailbreak tools?
Don't talk about not having choice or forcing people to void their warranty.

They are just stating that they have found this exploit and have a tool to unlock it. YOU choose to use it or not. Don't tell me that there are people who stupidly updated their BB and is 'force' to use this tool. It's their stupidity. Don't tell me that there are people who got their iPhone with newer BB that wasn't able to unlock with the old utrasn0w. These people should of known the unlock issue when they bought their iPhone. The buyers are taking the risk themselves and should never blame a group of people making free tools for you. The Dev-team has NO responsibility to release any unlock/jailbreak tools for anyone.

If you aren't unhappy with your locked iPhone 4 then go buy something else. It's not like anyone is 'forcing' you to use Apple product. Or Google 'forcing' you to use its OS.
 
They are just stating that they have found this exploit and have a tool to unlock it. YOU choose to use it or not. Don't tell me that there are people who stupidly updated their BB and is 'force' to use this tool. It's their stupidity. Don't tell me that there are people who got their iPhone with newer BB that wasn't able to unlock with the old utrasn0w. These people should of known the unlock issue when they bought their iPhone. The buyers are taking the risk themselves and should never blame a group of people making free tools for you. The Dev-team has NO responsibility to release any unlock/jailbreak tools for anyone.

I couldn't have said it better myself.
 
I just think its not moral to make people void their warranty, because they clearly have not the choice.

NO ONE is making anyone void their warranty. Everyone has a choice. You sound like some drone who cannot think for themselves. Come on, really?
 
I am questionning it because dev-team was stating for more than 2 months that they had the crash for the 4.1 3gs and 3g iphone's baseband and that ultrasn0w was ready for both of their baseband on 4.1.They were waiting for the 4.2 to come out before releasing it suposely to prevent apple patching it in 4.2 final. Now they came up with this ridiculous method which has nothing to do with current 3g and 3gs basebands and even nothing to do with 4.2 release.

I think they are not telling us everything.

I believe that the method they had prepared was to keep the old baseband with the exploit from previous firmwares, which was the common way to of JB/unlock in the past. The problem is that the new firmware requires specific CURRENT basebands. The loophole is that the old 3.2.2 baseband for the iPad is still current, and still contains the exploit. Therefore it is the solution being used for the current JB/unlock tools. Read their blog for more info. There's no conspiracy. They are just putting out a current tool that works, even though at a cost (voiding warranty).
 
I believe that the method they had prepared was to keep the old baseband with the exploit from previous firmwares, which was the common way to of JB/unlock in the past. The problem is that the new firmware requires specific CURRENT basebands. The loophole is that the old 3.2.2 baseband for the iPad is still current, and still contains the exploit. Therefore it is the solution being used for the current JB/unlock tools. Read their blog for more info. There's no conspiracy. They are just putting out a current tool that works, even though at a cost (voiding warranty).

This method also keeps them from burning a useable hole that may be required for a future unlock.
 
They chose to Jailbreak their device, that already voids the warranty...
It may not break the hardware but it breaks their terms of warranty and part of their business model, think both sides, I jailbreak, and I won't get sneaky and uninstall it if something breaks and then send it to apple
 
They chose to Jailbreak their device, that already voids the warranty...
It may not break the hardware but it breaks their terms of warranty and part of their business model, think both sides, I jailbreak, and I won't get sneaky and uninstall it if something breaks and then send it to apple

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I just upgraded my 3G baseband to the iPad

worked great!!!

I have a iPhone 4 so I was trying it out


Now you will unable to install a stock firmware on your iphone for the rest of its life and you are banned from apple services like applecare and out of warranty service.

If you dont care, you made the right choice i guess.
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Wow.... seriously... They should re-title this Ultra-Lame

Just curious, how much apple paid them to make (hundreds of) thousands of people void their warranty ? Not like people had the choice right now.

For those who do not understand. You need to update to a baseband made for the iPad in order to unlock. People from apple will see that the baseband is from another iDevice and will void your warranty. You can't reverse your baseband after that, your iphone will be marked for life.

Believe me apple will save a lot of money when people with iphones 3G and 3Gs with ipad's baseband will come crying to their stores.

You don't have to use it, it is just an option, like any others out there, you can buy a ticket to canada or Mexico and buy yourself a factory unlocked iphone and paid for all that.

You can also start working on an unlock yourself and release to the public. :cool:
 
You don't have to use it, it is just an option, like any others out there, you can buy a ticket to canada or Mexico and buy yourself a factory unlocked iphone and paid for all that.

You can also start working on an unlock yourself and release to the public. :cool:

You are right. But my point is that they were advertising since 2 months a completely other thing. ( Ultrasn0w for 05.14 and they were even saying that it was ready to be released as soon as 4.2 would come out)

Instead of that they release Ultral4me
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I have a 3g with 4.0 and 5.13 baseband. I just go to pwnage tool and put the 4.2.1 ipsw and then check preserve baseband. Then I use the custom firmware that comes out. Is this correct? Also can anyone make this custom firmware and pm it to me or something. Thank You!!
 
I have a 3g with 4.0 and 5.13 baseband. I just go to pwnage tool and put the 4.2.1 ipsw and then check preserve baseband. Then I use the custom firmware that comes out. Is this correct? Also can anyone make this custom firmware and pm it to me or something. Thank You!!


U download 4.1 for the iPhone as well as the 3.2.2 for the iPad to build your custom IPSW to dump on your device.
 
I have a 3g with 4.0 and 5.13 baseband. I just go to pwnage tool and put the 4.2.1 ipsw and then check preserve baseband. Then I use the custom firmware that comes out. Is this correct? Also can anyone make this custom firmware and pm it to me or something. Thank You!!

Yes this is correct. Make sure to check preserve baseband XD

U download 4.1 for the iPhone as well as the 3.2.2 for the iPad to build your custom IPSW to dump on your device.

Dude hes on 4.0 ....... 5.13
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Jailbreak is totally reversible and apple has no way to prove that your iphone has already been jailbroken.

Their method is basicly to install an ipad firmware on the iphone. This puts the ipad's baseband into the iphone. This baseband is saved on another chip in the iphone that cannot be downgraded. The iphone is mark to life with this baseband.

Problem number 1: When you'll bring you iphone to the store, they will check your baseband and you are royally F***ed. Bye bye warranty ( including out of warranty service and applecare service)

Problem 2: You will never be able to install an official firmware on your iphone again because of the ipad's baseband on your iphone.

Covering your tracks doesn't mean you haven't voided the warranty in the first place by jailbreaking initially. You're just pissed that you now have to take responsibility for your actions. If you want to jailbreak, do it, don't complain that the people who are helping you do it (you're not writing the code for the jailbreaks, are you? Or contributing anything to their work?) have given you a tool you don't want to use.
 
You are right. But my point is that they were advertising since 2 months a completely other thing. ( Ultrasn0w for 05.14 and they were even saying that it was ready to be released as soon as 4.2 would come out)

Instead of that they release Ultral4me

While I agree that the current unlock is a bit messy, I disagree that they "advertise" anything different, since the beginning of unlocking it have always been said that every new "baseband" may not be unlockable (EVER), unlocking a baseband is a difficult and time consuming process, it not only required to find a bug and exploited but also to rewrite (or spoof in some cases) part of the physical layers. The fact that there "is" an option (as crappy or no elegant as it may be) it is a big deal that it deserve to be share (release) for those who absolutely need to unlock, the fact that this current unlock come with a higher price than all previous one doesn't make it any worst.
 
Covering your tracks doesn't mean you haven't voided the warranty in the first place by jailbreaking initially. You're just pissed that you now have to take responsibility for your actions. If you want to jailbreak, do it, don't complain that the people who are helping you do it (you're not writing the code for the jailbreaks, are you? Or contributing anything to their work?) have given you a tool you don't want to use.

Jailbreaking is totally reversible. The method they released is flashing the baseband to an ipad baseband which is not reversible and apple will be checking for that baseband on iphones sent to service.

Also i don't even own an iphone 3g or 3gs, i am only posting this because many people doing this process are not aware of what it imply.



While I agree that the current unlock is a bit messy, I disagree that they "advertise" anything different, since the beginning of unlocking it have always been said that every new "baseband" may not be unlockable (EVER), unlocking a baseband is a difficult and time consuming process, it not only required to find a bug and exploited but also to rewrite (or spoof in some cases) part of the physical layers. The fact that there "is" an option (as crappy or no elegant as it may be) it is a big deal that it deserve to be share (release) for those who absolutely need to unlock, the fact that this current unlock come with a higher price than all previous one doesn't make it any worst.

I understand your point and i agree.

I think they should put more emphasis on the voiding warranty part and the unability to restore to a stock firmware, because right now this information is hidden in a big wall of text.
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But my point is that they were advertising since 2 months a completely other thing. ( Ultrasn0w for 05.14 and they were even saying that it was ready to be released as soon as 4.2 would come out)

Could you please point me to a place where the Dev-Team said that they had an unlock prepared for the 5.14 baseband? I read no such information. In fact, they've been warning people for at least two months not to update to official firmware if they relied on an unlock because "[a]ny mistakes you make now may be permanent."
 
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