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Unauthorized App Store Cydia Sues Apple for Anticompetitive Behavior
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Those policies have to exist within the bounds of the law, which is exactly what various entities are petitioning be looked at.
Cydia can't install pirated software, unless you manually add pirated software to it.
By your logic, Apple shouldn't allow the music app, because you can download pirate MP3's to it.
I don’t have a problem with that. What I have a problem with is companies wanting to profit off the App Store without being bound by the terms of the store.
I had to look that up because I've never heard of it, which tells you exactly how relevant it is. It looks unlikely to be popular outside of China and we're talking about US laws here. It also doesn't change the state of play today since it won't even be on Huawei's phones until next year.
Google app suite is a different subject. On Android you can side load apps. That is not possible on iOS without a jailbreak or Xcode workaround.
I don't see Apple as a culprit here. When you buy an iPhone, Apple does not claim that this device is able to install other OS's or App Store. If you wish so you can buy a an Oppo or Huawei. Once you buy the iPhone and you can make it run other App Stores or OS's then you are free to do so, Apple won't sue you. At least I never seen them take action against that.
IIRC when selling VHS you had to pay JVC(inventor), and Sony(inventor) if you want to sell on Bluray, Nintendo if you want to sell on their console, I don't see how this is different.
If its monopoly they talk about there is no monopoly as many Android phones exists, many app stores over there, Nokia-like phones exists, and other OSs like Sailfish, LineageOS, KaiOS, GrapheneOS....its not Apple's fault that they just happen to be the best OS out there.
IIRC when selling VHS you had to pay JVC(inventor), and Sony(inventor) if you want to sell on Bluray, Nintendo if you want to sell on their console, I don't see how this is different.
If its monopoly they talk about there is no monopoly as many Android phones exists, many app stores over there, Nokia-like phones exists, and other OSs like Sailfish, LineageOS, KaiOS, GrapheneOS....its not Apple's fault that they just happen to be the best OS out there.
They would love to but are afraid of the lash back. The problem with installing from the App Store is not only gives Apple a 30% cut but also because it limits what the software can do according to their rules. For example I heard TextExpander can't be on Mac App Store because Apple limits its capabilities over there.
If MacOS was released for the first time today I am sure they will limit where you can get your software just like on iOS.
I don’t care about Cydia, but Apple’s argument of not having monopoly because there is Android is rubbish. 20 years ago they happily joined in pointing at Microsoft for making Internet Explorer the default browser on Windows , buhu the internet monopoly. And yes, that did ruin Netscape, and as a developer I am very happy that despite this Mozilla rose from the ashes.
And back then Microsoft got forced to provide alternatives right at system start up, even though anybody could have chosen other browsers later, and now people are clever enough to do so. But even then they could have gone over to Mac or Linux, just as Apple now says with that Android argument.
Apple has a large platform and they do the utmost to milk it, just as Microsoft did back then, though admittedly the “shield the customer from harm” is the better legal argument. But monopoly it is.
And back then Microsoft got forced to provide alternatives right at system start up, even though anybody could have chosen other browsers later, and now people are clever enough to do so. But even then they could have gone over to Mac or Linux, just as Apple now says with that Android argument.
Apple has a large platform and they do the utmost to milk it, just as Microsoft did back then, though admittedly the “shield the customer from harm” is the better legal argument. But monopoly it is.
using this logic, Emulation companies could sue Microsoft and Sony for not allowing their stores to run emulated nintendo games on Xbox and Sony.
And how is an app going to bypass the power management systems? This is about opening up app delivery.
Yes, they are. I am hoping the regulators stop this behavior both on iOS and macOS.
What's incorrect? You just restated what I said.
Some of these even have parallels to Apple products. Standard interfaces, sanctioned third-party parts, and voided warranties.
Nobody looks at the iPhone and says, I want that cause it limits what I can do. They look at it and say, it just works and is well-supported instead of involving the kind of nonsense you deal with on Android. But that's because Apple walls it.
More importantly, they don't tell Apple how to design their phones, other than voting with their wallets. If the government stepped in, it'd be unnecessary, and they'd screw things up like they always do with technology.
If they did I might actually buy another mac... I've left (though I still use it on occasion). Still use iPhone, but I haven't updated since iPhone X, used to update yearly.... Apple's policies has sort of made me try moving everything out of their ecosystem.
By that logic, macOS must be an absolute scourge of malware and viruses, since it is not locked to the Mac App Store.
The existence of other OS's, whose combined use rates amount to a rounding error, doesn't mean that Apple and Google don't exist as a duopoly in the smartphone OS marketplace. In fact, Apple has over 50% market share on that front.
"I hope regulators force Apple to make things the way I want instead of the way the market wants."
They should file the lawsuit in... the Eastern District of Texas. Or maybe in Pyongyang or Moscow. Where they really have a chance for sympathetic Apple-hating judges to rule on their side. And will be awarded $490 billion from Apple.