I would like to think after a decade if they decided to focus on Touch ID again (and I mean really focus), it would be solid given the technological improvements throughout the years.
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Under-Display Face ID on iPhone Still at Least Two Years Away, Says Analyst
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HobeSoundDarryl
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I guess I'm not grasping the benefit. It works now... never fails me. 100% success. Even more accuracy than 100% doesn't seem to deliver anything more to me anyway. If it successfully reads my print every time now, what does it reading my print even more accurately get me (and others)? If I am not alone in it working exceedingly well now, it seems like overkill to aim for even more accuracy than 100%.
I think of this like original Retina spun as pixel density so small, our eyes can't see them. Since, it's become Retina HD and Liquid Retina etc. If original maxed out human vision, is all of the adjectives since then fluff marketing? Or was the original claims a lie and the latter was required to actually get to that (original) claim? Looking forward to Super Liquid Retina Triple HD Mach 7 in some upcoming device.
Not putting down innovation or making this some kind of narcissist type post about "me"... I simply assume everyone else has a very good experience with it "as is" too and this may be something that doesn't need "even more accuracy" unless perhaps I'm just exceedingly lucky and others have much trouble with successful print reads???
Not unrealistic at all. First of all, the front facing camera is meant for selfies and video conferencing, etc- for most users it does not have to retain the same very high quality standards of the primary rear facing cameras. Further, with the right technology- when the camera is active, the screen material in front of it should turn fully translucent, allowing more or less unobstructed photography. Whatever minor artifacts from the screen material that remains can be mitigated by ISP processing. The iPhone already heavily processes its images, this would just be a further step in that direction. It's not just realistic, its inevitable.
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Have you had this checked out? That’s not normal.
I do have my doubts about under screen FP readers but we’ll see.
NEVER BUY ANY OF APPLE PRODUCTS BEFORE THEY HIDE FACE ID UNDER THE SCREEN
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Honestly I don’t even care at this point. When I’m using my device all I see is my screen. The edges and notch don’t really impact my experience in any way, other than they’re just there.
I just want real all day battery life.
I just want real all day battery life.
Touch ID never failed me.. Face ID half the time I have to enter the password, the phone it's either too close, too far, wrong angle, or it's too dark... pfttttt
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I have never heard of anyone else having this experience. Some have varying degrees of failure of course (just as some do with Face ID), but nowhere near this extreme. I personally never have issues with Touch ID. It works perfectly for me. I suspect there’s something else going on in your situation to make it uniquely bad. I don’t know what it is, but I’m sorry for your frustration.
I don't think I had any issues with Touch. Face was definitely iffy in the beginning, but especially during having my 13PM, it got much better.
I agree, for me Touch ID doesn’t need to be under screen per se, bc I think power button Touch ID would be just as useful (or even bring home button back, I prefer a bezel on my phone anyway). And having the tactile feel of a button is better for unlocking without seeing. But maybe Apple has some other trick up their sleeve with under screen. I think the previous article said something about it working with gloves somehow. And maybe Touch ID will work everywhere on the screen. So there could be some big advantage(s) to having it under screen that we don’t know about. Eager to find out.
HobeSoundDarryl
macrumors G5
If not the on/off button, I always appreciated the idea of having it around back where our fingers are anyway. Some have said the Apple logo itself could become a touchID zone. There's plenty of area on the back that could be used for many things.
If they can get it to work well through screen, no big complaint from me. I simply see it already working just fine in on/off on iPad and that button seems like it would easily fit on the rim of an iPhone. If not, the back has enormous unused area for a touchID solution. It doesn't seem obvious why getting it under the screen would be so important. But hopefully whatever it is makes the effort worth the outcome.
Under display Face ID is more than two years away. Apple is too busy with AR/VR headsets
Project Titan etc to transition the iPhone so fast. Apples speed with updating its bread and butter it’s iPhone has slowed considerably Many people would like to see underscreen Face ID Hopefully Apple realizes this
Project Titan etc to transition the iPhone so fast. Apples speed with updating its bread and butter it’s iPhone has slowed considerably Many people would like to see underscreen Face ID Hopefully Apple realizes this
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So, this is what we can expect. Re-designing the front of the iPhone every 3 years. RIP iPhone notch!
As long as social media is a thing, the selfie camera is going to be super important. Even if Apple can get FaceID working under the screen, I don't see the that image being as good as an unobstructed front facing camera for a very long time. I can see a small hole punch coming in the next year or two. But gone completely? I doubt it (for maybe 5 years).
for those who doesn’t know what a underdisplay camera looks like, check videos of redmagic 8 pro, incredible phone, even has pulse sensor and touch id under display
Neither Face ID or Touch ID are any good until congress acts to protect facial ID and finger print ID as freedom of speech when it comes to protecting a device. As it stands, you can be compelled to unlock your phone with your face or fingerprint when ordered to do so by a court. A passcode on the other hand is protected under free speech laws and you cannot be compelled to disclose a password or passcode by a court to unlock your phone.
For some it’s simple skin chemistry and physical makeup. My wife had the same experience as you, Touch-ID never worked for more than a day or two no matter how may times she entered new fingerprints. My son and I entered our fingerprints into her iPhone and they worked every time for months on end, never failing to open her iPhone. So it wasn’t the censors, it wasn’t the software, it was the chemical makeup and physical composition of her skin. We now have a new Apple Magic Keyboard with TouchID for our Mac Studio Max and her fingerprints don’t work on it either.
It's so interesting how people can have such opposite experiences! I do a lot of outdoor activities year round and live in a mountain climate, so my hands get pretty worked, dry skin, etc. That's why I think it's so unreliable for me.
I agree. I have no idea why it needs to be under the screen either.
Im not sure they will go to just a hole punch. Seems too Samsung.
I live in a mountain climate and do a lot of outdoor sports, so my hands get pretty worked. I definitely notice that reliability drops when my hands are more dried out, especially in the winter.
I don't understand why anyone wants TouchID at this point. Although not 100%, FaceID is infinitely more reliable than TouchID. It works with wet hands. It works when your hands are in gloves. It pretty much works all the time. The only time it fails for me is when I'm wearing mirrored Ray Bans. TouchID was the better solution momentarily during the masked years, but that time is thankfully long gone, so I just don't see the appeal of TouchID. Even if it worked reliably for me, I'd still choose FaceID.