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Under-Display Face ID Reportedly to Debut on 'iPhone 17 Pro'

Ion-X said:
I don't want Face ID. It doesn't work with sunglasses, it doesn't work from weird angles, etc. (It's all for safety and security reasons, but it's nonetheless a headache).

None of these problems exist with Touch ID, which works reliably in all situations except rain and gloves. It can easily be incorporated under the display using existing technology.
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Not being contrarian, but Face ID on my 13 Pro Max works fine for me with sunglasses. I have two pairs of sunglasses, no idea if they’re polarised or not.

Equally, it’s got a lot better at a variety of angles since the OS updated to allow horizontal unlock (on newer phones anyway).

I have “Require Attention” enabled, “Face ID with a mask” is disabled.

Overall, I’ve come to prefer Face ID, mainly for password purposes, but it’s a not 100% win over Touch ID - phone flat on table fail - and I would welcome it’s return. I would love to have it in addition to Face ID, works great on the iPad Mini, and it’d surely enhance security if you could specifically opt for two forms of verification on certain apps.
 
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I’ve had every iPhone on day one and will upgrade this year for the new titanium design and USB-C, but if this rumor is true, looks like iPhone 16 can be the first year I skip. We are nearing peak iPhone.
 
yegon said:
Not being contrarian, but Face ID on my 13 Pro Max works fine for me with sunglasses. I have two pairs of sunglasses, no idea if they’re polarised or not.

Equally, it’s got a lot better at a variety of angles since the OS updated to allow horizontal unlock (on newer phones anyway).

I have “Require Attention” enabled, “Face ID with a mask” is disabled.

Overall, I’ve come to prefer Face ID, mainly for password purposes, but it’s a not 100% win over Touch ID - phone flat on table fail - and I would welcome it’s return. I would love to have it in addition to Face ID, works great on the iPad Mini, and it’d surely enhance security if you could specifically opt for two forms of verification on certain apps.
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Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I tried to scan my face with sunglasses on and iOS explicitly told me that Face ID does not work with sunglasses. With that being said, mine are polarized, and that's very likely to throw off the infrared beams by deflecting them.
 
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Good, now get that hideous camera out of the way or just add a display on the back so we can have super high quality selfies and video chats.
 
Ion-X said:
Very interesting, thanks for sharing. I tried to scan my face with sunglasses on and iOS explicitly told me that Face ID does not work with sunglasses. With that being said, mine are polarized, and that's very likely to throw off the infrared beams by deflecting them.
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I assume then mine aren’t polarised. Tbh, I’ve no idea what polarisation is/does, haha, and I expect you have to purposely buy ones that are?

Of mine, one pair are cheap anti glare ones I leave in the car, the other ones I wear about are decent ones, £70 or so, can’t recall the brand, not Ray Ban.
 
Pathetic. By then it’ll be 10 years since the X haha!!! And even then it’ll only be on the fugly pro
 
dantracht said:
This is another one of those I’ll believe it when I see it things.
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In this case, I believe you mean you'll believe it when you DON'T see it. ;)

Ion-X said:
I don't want Face ID. It doesn't work with sunglasses, it doesn't work from weird angles, etc. (It's all for safety and security reasons, but it's nonetheless a headache). None of these problems exist with Touch ID, which works reliably in all situations except rain and gloves. It can easily be incorporated under the display using existing technology.
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Why even bother putting it in the screen at all? I have iPad Mini 6 and the on/off button version of TouchID never fails me. Unless, Apple is back on the "thinner" train, there seems to be plenty of room for the same button on iPhone. And since it is already perfected in both hardware and software, it should be an easy way to go. I'm surprised they haven't already.
 
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jonnysods said:
People complained about the notch, but at least the notch didn't waste 2-3mm of screen like DI does above the black pill.
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That's not wasted space... it's more screen RE to the left & right, above and below... and sometimes within. ;)

Since there's already been a bit of confusion about this post, this is a joke... poking at the "more screen RE" spin slung when notch showed up on MBpro.
 
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Futurix said:
Sure, and in 5 years iPhones will have 256 megapixel cameras and levitation. Or in 10 years.

I'm so tired of those 'predictions'. Anyone can write this ****.
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Ahhhhh, but the magic is in getting paid to write it. Almost all of those anyones write it for free. Only those few players make a great living writing it.
 
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yegon said:
I assume then mine aren’t polarised. Tbh, I’ve no idea what polarisation is/does, haha, and I expect you have to purposely buy ones that are?

Of mine, one pair are cheap anti glare ones I leave in the car, the other ones I wear about are decent ones, £70 or so, can’t recall the brand, not Ray Ban.
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I misspoke earlier as polarization doesn't reflect light but rather uses vertical slats to transmit vertical light and absorb horizontal light (typically light that's bounced off the ground), thereby reducing glare. I could definitely see that absorbing some or all of the infrared beams.

Here's a good explanation: https://www.revantoptics.com/blogs/the-lens/how-do-polarized-sunglasses-work

You do have to explicitly order them polarized, and it usually raises the price. However I've also seen cheap polarized sunglasses at the drug store for $20. I usually stick with polarized Ray-Bans because I trust the company.

More importantly than polarization (unless you're driving), make sure your sunglasses have UV protection. You don't want a sunburn on your eye or skin cancer.
 
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HobeSoundDarryl said:
That's not wasted space... it's more screen RE to the left & right, above and below... and sometimes within. ;)
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The whole island could have been moved up to make Dynamic Peninsula, same screen RE to the left & right, and sometimes within as Dynamic Island, while having more screen RE vertically
 
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prefuse07 said:
BuH wHaT aBoUt MuH dYnAmIc IsLaNd?
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1. It's a software thing as much as a hardware thing. It has a purpose, even when its not just sitting idle obfuscating hardware.
2. There is still going to be some hardware. The camera. All this means is that the DI's appearance at idle will steadily shrink as hardware recedes below the display.
 
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If the next few years the feature changes are just refresh rate, security mechanism and such, I won‘t be upgrading until my phone is too slow. Also I have a 13 mini, it’s even harder for me to see myself upgrading if I need to change the form factor of the device I use
 
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