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I will never understand how anyone can take rumors in 2023 about a 2027 product seriously. Is Ross Young a time traveller?

No, but suppliers need a few years to build assembly lines. They need to order the machines that build the display.
 
I think we have gone too far with iPhone model numbers..
Apple needs to reboot and release an entirely new smartphone.

They can call it.. wait for it..

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Apple Phone
 
Looking at it from a purely visual/design standpoint and ignoring the tech for a moment it's pretty wild that it'll take Apple until 2025 to put out a phone with a single camera cutout when Android phones had it since like 2019.
 
Really? Hmm...I guess I don't get a sense that Steve Jobs would feel that way. I've been using Macs since 1989 with my first Mac SE/30. To me, Dynamic Island is a very clever way to solve a technology issue --
That's the entire point. He would've never let it get to the point of being an issue. He didn't force a feature just for the sake of patching a problem that was caused by a problematic approach in the first place.
 
That's the entire point. He would've never let it get to the point of being an issue. He didn't force a feature just for the sake of patching a problem that was caused by a problematic approach in the first place.
Probably I'm dense. Could you re-explain?

So prior to Dynamic Island, there was (and still is) the notch. For clarity, do you find that approach also objectionable?

If not objectionable, looks to me that moving to Dynamic Island is a very clever way of making the notch have some function other than a physical intrusion. Or are you saying that like in previous iterations of the iPhone, there should be no notch whatsoever with FaceID and the bezel on that side should be wide?
 
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Still seems far away. Looks like Dynamic Island is here to stay for at least 3 years. I still believe Dynamic Island can offer so much more. It’s got potential!

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Dynamic Island doesn't have to go away because the cutout goes away... it's a UX design that can be replicated with or without the the camera/face ID cutout present. I think Apple is going to keep it around for a long time.... I just wish the would move all notifications to it... Hopefully in iOS 17.
 
Slow playing the customers for the upgrade cycle $$$. We need some real competition in this space.
 
I don't want Face ID. It doesn't work with sunglasses, it doesn't work from weird angles, etc. (It's all for safety and security reasons, but it's nonetheless a headache).

None of these problems exist with Touch ID, which works reliably in all situations except rain and gloves. It can easily be incorporated under the display using existing technology.
I do love that the person with a photo of a X/XS as their pfp posted this ;)

all in good fun- I get people still wanting Touch ID. it was simply easier—when I’ve just woken up (yes, I’m that person), it takes a good couple tries for Face ID to work, and the sunglesses part is (not always!) true. that one extra DIRECT look at the phone, just for it to unlock or for Apple Pay to work, can be annoying.

it is mindblowing that no one has come close to them re: secure facial recognition. to my recollection (correct me if I’m wrong!) no one has been able to spoof Face ID without doing some…insanely heavy lifting, so to speak.

guess 3D printers + visual artists on commission are the new iPhone hacker’s toolbox. 😜
 
3 years....when the tech exists today?
My understanding is that current technology for under the screen is not really as robust and secured as Apple's implementation of FaceID. Either there is no technology that allows for really secured/robus under-the-screen FaceID, or the technology is too expensive at the moment to implement or too bulky (some such).
 
I don't want Face ID. It doesn't work with sunglasses, it doesn't work from weird angles, etc. (It's all for safety and security reasons, but it's nonetheless a headache).

None of these problems exist with Touch ID, which works reliably in all situations except rain and gloves. It can easily be incorporated under the display using existing technology.
Interesting. There is an updated option for FaceID to take into account sunglasses. Do you have a recent enough model of the iPhone to have that option? My iPhone 12 Pro, for example, has that option.
 
How are the 14 Pro and Max owners feeling when they read about iPhone 17? It has only been six months since the launch of the 14 and here we are speculating on the 17.
 
How are the 14 Pro and Max owners feeling when they read about iPhone 17? It has only been six months since the launch of the 14 and here we are speculating on the 17.

14 - worthwhile major update
15 - seems to be meh, as expected, unless you need zoom
16 - cameras should have been under the display
17 - was expecting foldable
 
I own the iPhone 14 Pro Max - and my next Phone will probably be the Samsung S2x Ultra - nothing beats pen support and Dex ... and there is a better Camera on the Samsung.
 
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That's the entire point. He would've never let it get to the point of being an issue. He didn't force a feature just for the sake of patching a problem that was caused by a problematic approach in the first place.
It's amazing how well you know what Jobs was thinking years ago and what he continues to think long after his death. You must be the son of Houdini. If you really know Jobs as well as you claim, you'd know he would love the Dynamic Island.
 
The iphone 28 is allegedly going to be inserted as a thin wafer into your left temporal lobe, just next to the Ear to provide extra spacial audio.
More or less. Their vision for the very, very advanced AR glasses is indeed a world where they replace the need for something you have to hold in your hand like a troglodyte with something you wear. The next logical step a few decades after that is something implanted in you so that you don't have to wear something.
 
Hasn't under-screen Face ID been predicted every year? Now we're guessing it's coming out in 2025? Hah!
Well, unlike under screen Touch ID which has been a baseless rumor since 2015, under screen Face ID has actually been part of the current roadmap for a while. We are slogging our way through the iterations of the technology as we advance toward it.
 
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