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In Connecticut you can drink at any age if your parents give you the drink (I don't think it applies to public restaurants).

As far as smoking you can smoke at any age, you just have to be 18 to buy them.
 
In Connecticut you can drink at any age if your parents give you the drink (I don't think it applies to public restaurants).

As far as smoking you can smoke at any age, you just have to be 18 to buy them.
Not anymore, underage drinking is illegal, if a parent buys you alcohol they can get in serious trouble. Parents are held responsible for house parties if someone underage gets drunk.
 
Not anymore, underage drinking is illegal, if a parent buys you alcohol they can get in serious trouble. Parents are held responsible for house parties if someone underage gets drunk.

That 2 separate things. Buying alcohol for the kid and the kid is the only one consuming it is legal. It much be consumed in the presents of the parent.
 
That 2 separate things. Buying alcohol for the kid and the kid is the only one consuming it is legal. It much be consumed in the presents of the parent.
The new law in CT is that a parent can't willingly give a child alcohol. If the cops come to your house and see the kid with a beer the parents will get arrested. The idea is to stop underage drinking parties where all the neighborhood kids go to one house and the parents supply the beer.
 
Now I do not see them dropping the drinking age any time soon in the US. The main people trying to argue for it to be lowered very young. Most of them under 21 years old.

The people who do not want it lower are older. Old people do one thing. They vote so they bend over backwards for them. The youngest group none of them vote so there is little motivation to bother changing it. If the younger people started voting in masses things would change very quickly.
 
Plus if your underage your reasoning ability is not as strong and nobody would take you serious.
 
Every state is different, but for the most part, it's not going to be a problem if you give your 18 year-old a beer with dinner (although if your kid decides to drive drunk after that, prepare to accept the consequences). It will be a problem if you get your kid drunk, give them a drink in public, or supply your kids friend's with alcohol however.
 
I think Spain has got it right for the most part.
The legal drinking age is 16, although from my experience,
if you even look it you can walk into a bar, grocery store, etc.
and buy whatever you want.
The legal driving age is 21, but they make the driving tests so
hard and expensive that most don't even get their license until they
are into their thirties.
So that gives 15 years or so for people to grow up, and realize that they
need be responsible when driving and not drink and drive.
It's not perfect, some people still drink and drive and get in crashes and
deaths do occur, but not even close to the rate that it happens in the US.
 
Well I'm 14 and yesterday I had 4 shots worth of Absolut Vodka in one go.. didn't get drunk, tipsy, nothing but the fine fine burning in my throat. I think underage drinking is fine if it's in moderation. (Besides the drinking age is 18 in Alberta)
 
Well I'm 14 and yesterday I had 4 shots worth of Absolut Vodka in one go.. didn't get drunk, tipsy, nothing but the fine fine burning in my throat. I think underage drinking is fine if it's in moderation. (Besides the drinking age is 18 in Alberta)
I know I'm beginning to sound like a broken record, but getting drunk or "tipsy" isn't the only issue here. By drinking at such a young age you're causing permanent damage to your brain.
 
I think Spain has got it right for the most part.
The legal drinking age is 16, although from my experience,
if you eve look it you can walk into a bar, grocery store, etc.
and buy whatever you want.
The legal driving age is 21, but they make the driving tests so
hard and expensive that most don't even get their license until they
are into their thirties.
So that gives 15 years or so for people to grow up, and realize that they
need be responsible when driving and not drink and drive.
It's not perfect, some people still drink and drive and get in crashes and
deaths do occur, but not even close to the rate that it happens in the US.

The legal drinking age in Spain is 18 years,as well as for driving.It is true driving tests are hard but most people do get their license before their thirties.
 
The legal drinking age in Spain is 18 years,as well as for driving.It is true driving tests are hard but most people do get their license before their thirties.

My bad on the driving. I meant 18. I have more friends who are 30 or older and do not have their license, than I do friends that got their license before that age. Do you know of a site that offers those stats. That would be interesting to compare with other nations? Maybe it has to do with living in Madrid, where the public transportation is great.
Unless, they changed the drinking age with the no drinking in the streets laws in 2005, I'm pretty sure there is no minimum age for alcohol consumption and that 16 year olds can alcohol. If that has changed, could you please give me a link so I can stayed well informed. Thanks.

Nonetheless, as EricNau does say, your brain doesn't fully development until you're in your twenties I believe, so heavy drinking before that can stunt its development.
 
My bad on the driving. I meant 18. I have more friends who are 30 or older and do not have their license, than I do friends that got their license before that age. Do you know of a site that offers those stats. That would be interesting to compare with other nations? Maybe it has to do with living in Madrid, where the public transportation is great.
Unless, they changed the drinking age with the no drinking in the streets laws in 2005, I'm pretty sure there is no minimum age for alcohol consumption and that 16 year olds can alcohol. If that has changed, could you please give me a link so I can stayed well informed. Thanks.

Nonetheless, as EricNau does say, your brain doesn't fully development until you're in your twenties I believe, so heavy drinking before that can stunt its development.

Well we must live in parallel worlds because where I live in Madrid people have their license before their thirties(If they want a driving license,of course),underaged can't buy alcohol as you can see here http://www.jccm.es/ces/pdf/01-02_1.pdf and there IS a minimum age for consumming alcohol.And well the law "anti-botellón"(no drinking in the streets)only said that it was forbidden to drink alcohol in the streets(is still done anyway)the minimum age for consumption wasn't touched.I know before with 16 it was legal to smoke and buy beers but all that has changed
 
I don't have a problem with people 18 or over drinking as long as they are safe. This is a grim topic for me, however, I just found out today that a classmate of mine died last night from a car accident resulting from driving under the influence. 3 kids, drunk, being reckless, the driver and another passenger are in the hospital, one passed away. It's so sad, 18 years old, senior in high school, just gone.

I'm 18 and don't drink or party. Not my scene, and i have no interest in it. For others who like it i say fine, but you have to be responsible. These kids weren't and unfortunately paid the price... :(
 
Well we must live in parallel worlds because where I live in Madrid people have their license before their thirties(If they want a driving license,of course),underaged can't buy alcohol as you can see here http://www.jccm.es/ces/pdf/01-02_1.pdf and there IS a minimum age for consumming alcohol.And well the law "anti-botellón"(no drinking in the streets)only said that it was forbidden to drink alcohol in the streets(is still done anyway)the minimum age for consumption wasn't touched.I know before with 16 it was legal to smoke and buy beers but all that has changed

Well, yes. Appearantly we do live in parallel worlds.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that article you attached only applies to Castilla-La Mancha, yes? And it was written in 2002?

Everyone I've asked says the legal limit for purchase is 16. It goes along with my daily experience as well -but I guess the chinos sell to anyone anytime as well. But its curious that the WHO still has it listed as age 16 in 2004.
Either way, it seems no one really enforces the "minimum age" law and I swear I see kids no where near 16 in bars all the time.
 

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Well, yes. Appearantly we do live in parallel worlds.
Correct me if I'm wrong, but that article you attached only applies to Castilla-La Mancha, yes? And it was written in 2002?

Everyone I've asked says the legal limit for purchase is 16. It goes along with my daily experience as well -but I guess the chinos sell to anyone anytime as well. But its curious that the WHO still has it listed as age 16 in 2004.
Either way, it seems no one really enforces the "minimum age" law and I swear I see kids no where near 16 in bars all the time.

Ok maybe that web was only for Castilla la Mancha but it included some global things for the Spanish Peninsula anyway maybe you prefer this link http://www.fepad.es/consultorio_faqs.aspx?p=2&categoria=3.There it leaves clear that the minimum age in Spain to buy alcohol is 18 not 16.And well it is true 16 year olds go to bars(If they let them in)and well usually they are kicked out after certain hour.
And well the chinos is something appart...that is not very legal,that is why underaged go to the chinos tu buy.
Well do you live in Madrid?..because you are not very updated on this issues
Well that url is for Cataluña I think but this http://www.diariocordoba.com/noticias/noticia.asp?pkid=150249 one says that in 2004 was going to be unified the minimum age for alcohol consumption for the whole Spain and that only certain communities had the minimum age in 16 and Madrid ....(no)
 
The new law in CT is that a parent can't willingly give a child alcohol. If the cops come to your house and see the kid with a beer the parents will get arrested. The idea is to stop underage drinking parties where all the neighborhood kids go to one house and the parents supply the beer.

I thought the law was you can only give it to YOUR OWN child. I guess they changed it though.

What about religious things which involve wine and such?
 
Where I am from, I could get cocaine before I could get alcohol if I wanted.

If a kid underage wants to drink, I don't give a flying ....

It's when kids get out of control (fighting, etc.) and do stupid stuff (DUI) that pisses me off. Unfortunately this happens more often than not.
 
Any religion allowing kids to drink significant amounts of alcohol need to provide proof that their religious ceremony is legitimate.

I don't know of any that do.
The Roman Catholic Church for one... I'm a Eucharistic Minister (I give out Communion and the Blood...Wine), so it's funny... I'm a minor serving alcohol in an establishment without a liquor license.

It's also funny, because I work in a liquor store, and can stock it and makes 6 packs and bring kegs it to peoples cars, but I can't sell it until I'm 18.
 
And well it is true 16 year olds go to bars(If they let them in)and well usually they are kicked out after certain hour.
Yeah, everyone is eventually kicked out after a certain hour.

And well the chinos is something appart...that is not very legal,that is why underaged go to the chinos tu buy.

That's why I said they sell to anyone, anytime.

Well do you live in Madrid?..because you are not very updated on this issues

Yeah, appearantly I'm just clueless about everything:rolleyes:. It's funny you say that because no one else in Madrid I've talked to seems to be aware of it (I've even asked a barman in my neighborhood).

BTW, I'm still looking for a link to the official law and the date it was put into action. If you can provide any help that would be great.
 
Yeah, everyone is eventually kicked out after a certain hour.



That's why I said they sell to anyone, anytime.



Yeah, appearantly I'm just clueless about everything:rolleyes:. It's funny you say that because no one else in Madrid I've talked to seems to be aware of it (I've even asked a barman in my neighborhood).

BTW, I'm still looking for a link to the official law and the date it was put into action. If you can provide any help that would be great.

Well I know everyone is kicked out after a certain hour but in good places underaged are kicked out at 2 or 3 so that if the police comes they don't have to pay a fee for letting them in.

Well I have been living in Madrid almost all my life and I'm surrounded by a lot of madrileños so I think I know perfectly the minimum age to buy and drink alcohol If for you that isn't a valid data I'll try to find something so that you are aware of that law and you inform your acquaintances


http://www.msc.es/gabinetePrensa/notaPrensa/desarrolloNotaPrensa.jsp?id=674 There you can find the anteproyecto that is needed before the law is aproved.And well you must know too If you live in Madrid,because alcohol can't be sold from 10 p.m(chinos appart)
 
My mom has let me experiment with alcohol since I was 14-ish, and I for one can't stand the stuff. The legal limit of 21 is completely bogus :rolleyes:. Once an idiot always an idiot, waiting until you're that age isn't going to change anything.
 
My mom has let me experiment with alcohol since I was 14-ish, and I for one can't stand the stuff. The legal limit of 21 is completely bogus :rolleyes:. Once an idiot always an idiot, waiting until you're that age isn't going to change anything.
Not entirely true, most kids are idiots. When they get older they grow out of it.
 
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