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Underage Drinking

I dont know if this has already been posted, there are 8 pages and I cant be bothered to look though all of them, but here in the UK its legal to drink at any age if you are in your own house. The problem is, of course, getting someone to get the booze for you...

Here, if you are 16 you can get married, but you cant go to the pub and drink, stupid I think...

Idiots.
 
Actually you can even drink in restaurants if you are with your parents and are having a meal. My parents used to get me a drink when I was 14 and up.

Either that or the restaurants I went to were a little bit more relaxed.
 
Cromulent said:
Actually you can even drink in restaurants if you are with your parents and are having a meal. My parents used to get me a drink when I was 14 and up.

Either that or the restaurants I went to were a little bit more relaxed.
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That's still correct I think. You can drink at home from the age of five.
 
Cromulent said:
Actually you can even drink in restaurants if you are with your parents and are having a meal. My parents used to get me a drink when I was 14 and up.

Either that or the restaurants I went to were a little bit more relaxed.
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Yeah, I drink some of my mums wine sometimes :D

And im fairly sure my mates mum lets her drink bacardi...
 
SavageMac said:
Why have faith in the justice system when it is putting medical patients in california in jail?

People with AIDS and cancer are dying in jail because of the medicine they are using.

Sounds like you have BLIND faith in the justice system.

~Savage
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one guy says the system is perfect, the other guy says its complete sh*t
me thinks the truth is somewhere in the middle. our justice system is no where near perfect, but its decent for the current political environment. also, if you just focus on the injustices, you're throwing out the baby with the bath water.
 
btw, these stories of 14 year old kids drinking bacardi really sends chills down my spine. I'm 23 and I drink a beer or long island once in a blue moon at a bar or club. I don't see how you expect to keep your liver in good shape if you start drinking at such a young age. I guess it would make me feel better if you worked out five days a week, ate right, and didn't smoke to compensate.
 
carbonmotion said:
btw, these stories of 14 year old kids drinking bacardi really sends chills down my spine. I'm 23 and I drink a beer or long island once in a blue moon at a bar or club. I don't see how you expect to keep your liver in good shape if you start drinking at such a young age. I guess it would make me feel better if you worked out five days a week, ate right, and didn't smoke to compensate.
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mmmm... blue moon... Great beer, especially with an orange!!

Sorry, but to your point, kids drinking at 14 really are hurting themselves. I'm completely against smoking, and I think occasional underage drinking isn't bad. But, I think 16-17 is when it would be appropriate to have a drink... not drinking...
 
underage drinking is ridiculous if you ask me. the age should be 17 to drink. and 18 to smoke, thats nationwide too. Smoking is disgusting but drinking is fine, that is in moderation of course.
 
Well for Spain the legal age to drink alcohol is 18 but well police here isn't so harsh If they catch you drinking underaged...Maybe because almost everyone has drank alcohol underaged with their family to celebrate something with champain or wine(we are not drunkards).
I think the the age in the states is just too high and the measures taken too extreme,even though is a country with a lot of population to control.

18 is a fair age
 
utuberider2 said:
underage drinking is ridiculous if you ask me. the age should be 17 to drink. and 18 to smoke, thats nationwide too. Smoking is disgusting but drinking is fine, that is in moderation of course.
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Sure, smoking is disgusting, but it doesn't impair or cause brain damage, as does alcohol, and both can be lethal.

Excluding social aspects (which should have no bearing on the legal age limit) drinking is more dangerous at a young age than smoking (in comparison to effects each respective drug has on older users).
 
EricNau said:
Sure, smoking is disgusting, but it doesn't impair or cause brain damage, as does alcohol, and both can be lethal.

Excluding social aspects (which should have no bearing on the legal age limit) drinking is more dangerous at a young age than smoking (in comparison to effects each respective drug has on older users).
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Smoke kills you slowly ...alcohol can be good If taken in the right amount.The problem is that in low terms alcohol causes bigger effects in big dosis,people just get out of themselves or die....And well on older users hmmm what is worse to die from a pulmonar cancer or from Cirrosis..At least from cirrosis you can have the option of receiving a liver if there are any donants ....I don't know both are bad but what is certain is that a cup of wine a day or a couple of them a week (or beer) can be good for health as it has been demonstrated but for smoking there isn't a good amount!(only a reversible amount of damage)

As Aristoteles said:"The poison is in the Amount"
 
Macintosh001 said:
Smoke kills you slowly ...alcohol can be good If taken in the right amount.The problem is that in low terms alcohol causes bigger effects in big dosis,people just get out of themselves or die....And well on older users hmmm what is worse to die from a pulmonar cancer or from Cirrosis..At least from cirrosis you can have the option of receiving a liver if there are any donants ....I don't know both are bad but what is certain is that a cup of wine a day or a couple of them a week (or beer) can be good for health as it has been demonstrated but for smoking there isn't a good amount!(only a reversible amount of damage)

As Aristoteles said:"The poison is in the Amount"
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Yes, but there aren't any negative effects from smoking at an early age (except maybe you'll get lung cancer at 48 instead of 50). Drinking a few years early, on the other hand, causes lifelong brain damage and in tragic cases, death.
 
utuberider2 said:
underage drinking is ridiculous if you ask me. the age should be 17 to drink. and 18 to smoke, thats nationwide too. Smoking is disgusting but drinking is fine, that is in moderation of course.
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well one reason for the drinking age to e 21 is because it is proven our brains are still growing and developing up until about age 21 and alcohol can do some damage to brain development.

Also no HS student should be drinking, alcohol makes one pretty stupid and HS really do not need any help in that department. They already do a lot of stupid stuff.
 
EricNau said:
Yes, but there aren't any negative effects from smoking at an early age (except maybe you'll get lung cancer at 48 instead of 50). Drinking a few years early, on the other hand, causes lifelong brain damage and in tragic cases, death.
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I think that smoking a cigarrette is worst than having a cup of wine..while wine can be beneficial if is not taken in big amounts...a cigarrette is really bad and only for smoking one you're increasing the chance of getting some sort of cancer from the upper respiratory ways.

I agree and disagree with you
 
Macintosh001 said:
I think that smoking a cigarrette is worst than having a cup of wine..while wine can be beneficial if is not taken in big amounts...a cigarrette is really bad and only for smoking one you're increasing the chance of getting some sort of cancer from the upper respiratory ways.

I agree and disagree with you
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Yeah those people are so few and far between. There is no getting around the fact most people young in age will drink a hell of a lot more than the 1/2 glass of wine.

Alcohol has proven damage on ones brain development and that takes until around 21 to complete.. Ci grates well it not going to screw brain development. At age 18 almost everything in us is fully develop but our brains.
 
Macintosh001 said:
I think that smoking a cigarrette is worst than having a cup of wine..while wine can be beneficial if is not taken in big amounts...a cigarrette is really bad and only for smoking one you're increasing the chance of getting some sort of cancer from the upper respiratory ways.
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You're absolutely right, but that's not the issue here.

Throughout a lifetime, smoking (even in moderation) can have far more negative health effects than drinking in moderation.

However, for children/teens, alcohol's effects are far worse and more immediate than smoking. ...Alcohol causes immediate impairment, lifelong brain damage, and in some cases, sudden death.

So yes, smoking throughout a lifetime can be far worse than a lifetime full of moderated drinking, BUT smoking 3 years before the legal age is not nearly as damaging as drinking at the age of 16 or even 18.
 
I don't see the point of setting such high legal alcohol drinking age. People that wants to drink won't stop because it's not legal for them to drink, and people that don't want to drink won't start drinking because it's legal for them to do so. It just creates hassles for everyone. I've drank since I was around 12, and tried liquor around 15. The most I've drank was 4 glasses of wine, and I wasn't that drunk even then. I think as long as people don't drink and drive and hurt other people, then it should be a personal choice whether to drink or not.
 
teflon said:
I don't see the point of setting such high legal alcohol drinking age. People that wants to drink won't stop because it's not legal for them to drink, and people that don't want to drink won't start drinking because it's legal for them to do so. It just creates hassles for everyone. I've drank since I was around 12, and tried liquor around 15. The most I've drank was 4 glasses of wine, and I wasn't that drunk even then. I think as long as people don't drink and drive and hurt other people, then it should be a personal choice whether to drink or not.
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First of all, many teenagers don't drink (or limit their drinking) because it is illegal. It's not by coincidence that studies show our teen consumption of alcohol lower than countries who allow teen drinking.

And exactly what hassles? It's only a hassle if you're breaking the law.
 
Ahhhh. How good i feel never to have touched alcohol or cigarettes :)

Seriously guys, ITS NOT WORTH IT!
 
EricNau said:
First of all, many teenagers don't drink (or limit their drinking) because it is illegal. It's not by coincidence that studies show our teen consumption of alcohol lower than countries who allow teen drinking.

And exactly what hassles? It's only a hassle if you're breaking the law.
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Most people in my school (who are about 12-18) dont care about something being illegal. For example almost ALL of them pirate music, TV shows, movies etc.

I, of course, would never do something like that :rolleyes:
 
EricNau said:
Numbers speak for themselves - our age limit DOES help.
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Your age limits does help but it is a bit exagerated!You go to the states and you are not even allowed to be with your parents in a bar at a certain hour If you're underaged!That is a bit exaggerated in my opinion...And drinking alcohol is very bad seen as If you were a rebel or something like that...In my opinion is ok that alcohol is forbidden for underaged,but laws should have some flexibility,not be so strict.I'm not saying that in the states they should let adolescents drink but not be so pure about all this and not get alarmed if a father offers a cup of wine to his child,a little liquor after eating or something like that.
 
I seem to be much older (opps!! more mature in age) than all of you. When I was in college the drinking age in most places was 18, at least for beer. Hard liquor has always been 21 for the most part. I guess I do not see any more problems with drinking at 18 than then. Like others I certainly do not advocate breaking the laws.

I had 4 of my children go through college and the only advice I gave them was to be responsible. If they chose to drink before 21 then be willing to accept the consequences without complaining and above all do not ask me for money to pay the fines. The other caution, and I can not stress this enough, please stay away from driving or for that matter even getting into a car while you have been drinking. In my lifetime I have attended funerals of students and children of friends who were great young adults and normally very responsible. They just made some very bad decisions and it cost them their lives.
 
Macintosh001 said:
Your age limits does help but it is a bit exagerated!You go to the states and you are not even allowed to be with your parents in a bar at a certain hour If you're underaged!That is a bit exaggerated in my opinion...And drinking alcohol is very bad seen as If you were a rebel or something like that...In my opinion is ok that alcohol is forbidden for underaged,but laws should have some flexibility,not be so strict.I'm not saying that in the states they should let adolescents drink but not be so pure about all this and not get alarmed if a father offers a cup of wine to his child,a little liquor after eating or something like that.
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ah but the law does allow for that. It a parent, legal guardian or a spouse gives alcohol to some the person then it is legal for them to drink it.
 
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