Yes, but having soldered parts allows for the rMBP to be so thin.
And not allowing the user to replace parts actually reduces the chances of the user screwing something up inside the rMBP.
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Understanding MBP Graphics - Iris Pro vs NVIDIA GT 750M
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Yes, but having soldered parts allows for the rMBP to be so thin.
And not allowing the user to replace parts actually reduces the chances of the user screwing something up inside the rMBP.
I have decided to go with a Macbook Pro over Windows laptops. I am a photographer by hobby and I mainly use Photoshop for my editing. My question is this: Will the base model with the Intel Iris Pro suffice for editing in Photoshop? 99.99% of the time I dodge, burn, heal, crop, convert to b&w, and use Google's Nik Collection. I rarely if ever perform composites or any other heavy-handed editing processes.
I've read the majority of this thread but am still left confused as to what I'll really need. Thanks for your help!
I've read the majority of this thread but am still left confused as to what I'll really need. Thanks for your help!
Yes very true but I didn't buy my MacBook Pro retina to game....its just a tiny little plus.....anyone who bought a Mac to game will be sorely disappointed everytime.
That's never been a good argument. Its the same argument people make when they say "Oh *insert Goverment or corporation* knows best for you, they are just trying to protect you". Anyone who opens up a $2000 computer should know what they are doing prior and if they don't shame on them....its common sense, do we need to lock their medicine cabinets too so they don't accidently hurt themselves? Just sayin'....
You'll be fine. I use photoshop ALLOT and 90% of the time I don't use my discrete graphics since I do very basic stuff in in 99% of the time. dGPU isn't needed until you start doing insane stuff in photoshop or are jumping between After Effects and/or Premiere pro with photoshop.
This is a good read thread, I've heard DedicatedGPU chips tend to fail after 3-4 years, my brother had an nVidia chip fail on his laptop. I've not heard of integrated chips failing.
I'm on the fence about waiting 6 months as the Iris Pro 6200 would be even better. I've got a Mac Mini that I use as a media server/centre and that keeps me going for now.
I'm on the fence about waiting 6 months as the Iris Pro 6200 would be even better. I've got a Mac Mini that I use as a media server/centre and that keeps me going for now.
like many of you, I'm struggling with the decision, 750m or Iris Pro.
The thing is, I'm going for the 512SSD + 2.5Ghz Upgrades on the Iris model, or instead of that, the 750m unmodified. (>512SSD is a must to me)
With educational discounts, both are almost the same amount of money (~2200), so.. is it worth the dGPU for the same money in terms of performance? Will it give me problems like the radeongate, or an excesive battery consumption/heat?
I use the computer for Photoshop, rhino3D, autocad, renders... architectural stuff... And I have an early 2011 15" 6750 1GB now (which is working well, no radeongate)
The thing is, I'm going for the 512SSD + 2.5Ghz Upgrades on the Iris model, or instead of that, the 750m unmodified. (>512SSD is a must to me)
With educational discounts, both are almost the same amount of money (~2200), so.. is it worth the dGPU for the same money in terms of performance? Will it give me problems like the radeongate, or an excesive battery consumption/heat?
I use the computer for Photoshop, rhino3D, autocad, renders... architectural stuff... And I have an early 2011 15" 6750 1GB now (which is working well, no radeongate)
I would go with the dGPU
There are no reports of radeongate like problems yet, anecdotal evidence shows that the battery life and heat etc are much the same.
Of course it is just another part that can go wrong but other than that it seems as solid as the iGPU version so far.
There are no reports of radeongate like problems yet, anecdotal evidence shows that the battery life and heat etc are much the same.
Of course it is just another part that can go wrong but other than that it seems as solid as the iGPU version so far.
So, at the same price level, and being the heat/battery apparently the same, should I go for the 750m? Seems as if it were an stupid question with an obvious "go for 750m" answer; but I've heard before that this dGPU is not worth compared with the Iris one in terms of performance, and could carry many cons in the future just because of being a dGPU soldered etc...
dGPU might be better for VMs
Like you, I had to make the same decision. I had intended to get a base 2.2GHz 2014 model and increase the SSD to 512GB, but I was wondering whether it would be "a better deal" to get the better model with the faster CPU and dGPU. In the end, I went for a late-2013 high-end refurb for $500 less that the price of the comparable 2014 model. This is still nearly $200 cheaper than the base model + 512GB SSD, so seemed like a better deal.
I've experimented with the dGPU, and have found that it seems to make my VMs run a bit better from a UI perspective. Also booting into Bootcamp or using an external model will force use of the dGPU, but I'm less likely to use this on battery-power, so power consumption isn't such a big issue.
I use gfxCardStatus to force use of the Iris Pro when running Mac OS - although I think some applications do prompt it to switch to dGPU.
I haven't noticed excessive heat with the dGPU, but I haven't used it for long-running tests yet.
I don't regret getting the dGPU model - I think it will have some advantages, and not too many disadvantages.
Like you, I had to make the same decision. I had intended to get a base 2.2GHz 2014 model and increase the SSD to 512GB, but I was wondering whether it would be "a better deal" to get the better model with the faster CPU and dGPU. In the end, I went for a late-2013 high-end refurb for $500 less that the price of the comparable 2014 model. This is still nearly $200 cheaper than the base model + 512GB SSD, so seemed like a better deal.
I've experimented with the dGPU, and have found that it seems to make my VMs run a bit better from a UI perspective. Also booting into Bootcamp or using an external model will force use of the dGPU, but I'm less likely to use this on battery-power, so power consumption isn't such a big issue.
I use gfxCardStatus to force use of the Iris Pro when running Mac OS - although I think some applications do prompt it to switch to dGPU.
I haven't noticed excessive heat with the dGPU, but I haven't used it for long-running tests yet.
I don't regret getting the dGPU model - I think it will have some advantages, and not too many disadvantages.
Thanks, I do some video editing, and it uses CUDA, but that doesn't happen every week...
Thank you for your help, I will be using parallels for some virtualisation, so that could be another point to take into account in favour of 750m; In my case, here in Spain we don't have a wide range of refurb offer, so I will have to stick to the 2014 line; fortunately, I can benefit from a tax-free shopping through Europe because of having a little mobile apps startup, so I get also around $500 discount on new machines!
urrgghhh...
I wish I hadn't to do it, but until rhino + grasshopper are available for mac... I will need to do it (not often). I don't want to bootcamp my mac, so.. what's the problem?
If an integrated GPU fails, it may be difficult to tell apart from a CPU failure, hence so little reports about it.
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Buying a new 2014 MBP Retina 15 inch with 16GB RAM and 512GB PCI. Mainly do audio work in Logic but will also do some light video editing, light photoshop and probably moderate gaming. I will also probably use a monitor at various times (a BENQ GL2450HM) so I can have separate windows up when in Logic. It costs £70 less to get the MBP with the same specs minus the dedicated NVIDIA graphics (2GB) but the price difference isn't really the issue. When using anything that could use the dGPU I'm likely to be plugged in so short term battery isn't an issue, however is the higher temperature it's likely to run at cause any long term issues such as quicker battery degradation? I've read this and various other forums as well as talking to guys in the apple store and have been kinda told mixed messages, the apple store guy said I may as well get the dGPU as future proofing, however for me it's not really worth it if it's likely to compromise a machine I hope to use for the next 5 years. Any advice would be very welcome!
Buying a new 2014 MBP Retina 15 inch with 16GB RAM and 512GB PCI. Mainly do audio work in Logic but will also do some light video editing, light photoshop and probably moderate gaming. I will also probably use a monitor at various times (a BENQ GL2450HM) so I can have separate windows up when in Logic. It costs £70 less to get the MBP with the same specs minus the dedicated NVIDIA graphics (2GB) but the price difference isn't really the issue. When using anything that could use the dGPU I'm likely to be plugged in so short term battery isn't an issue, however is the higher temperature it's likely to run at cause any long term issues such as quicker battery degradation? I've read this and various other forums as well as talking to guys in the apple store and have been kinda told mixed messages, the apple store guy said I may as well get the dGPU as future proofing, however for me it's not really worth it if it's likely to compromise a machine I hope to use for the next 5 years. Any advice would be very welcome!
When doing intensive stuff, working on the iGPU actually leads to higher temperatures since all work is consolidated into a single chip.
Working on the dGPU spreads tasks out across two chips. In my experience I find that enabling the dGPU runs cooler when doing heavy work. You can always use gfxcardstatus to disable the dGPU when it isn't needed.
So in your experience there aren't really any potential downsides with getting the dGPU?
With the cMBP, yes, because of the lousy thermal design and ventilation.
With the rMBPs, no downsides. The thermal design and ventilation is far better than the cMBP's.
In the 2011 15"/17" cMBP's case, the first of the significant GPU failures showed up within the first year, and increased exponentially in the third year.
With the 2012 and 2013 rMBPs, even in the first year (and second year in the 2012 rMBP's case), no significant GPU failures popped up, aside from the unstable driver issue in the 650Ms found in the Ivy Bridge rMBPs from mid-2012 to early-2013.
I am planning to buy a rMBP. Primarily it would be used for running softwares from the Adobe Suite (esp After Effects, Photoshop and Illustrator) and a couple of 3D softwares like Cinema 3D, Maya.
Can someone help me decide which model to go for? The basic 15" rMBP or the one with dGPU? Or should I go for an iMac instead since the price diff between the dGPU and the required iMac is pretty large.
Please help!
Can someone help me decide which model to go for? The basic 15" rMBP or the one with dGPU? Or should I go for an iMac instead since the price diff between the dGPU and the required iMac is pretty large.
Please help!
Go get the rMBP with 750M. Cinema 3D and Maya will make use of it, along with other CUDA accelerated software.