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here is you best deal for right now these are in stock.
that is my review along with 1 other.

http://www.vanns.com/shop/servlet/item/reviews/753163336/#Reviews


look at the price for black ones.

http://search.vanns.com/sitesearch/search?q=apc+s15


It sold out and I was on back order I waited 30 days for it, but they did not charge until it shipped.

I have this. It works great and is silent. Well, it's silent until power is lost; on battery power it wails like a banshee.
 
Yes, but you can still get a refurbished pure sine wave unit for the same money, perhaps a bit less (personally, I'd wait for a longer track record from the CyberPower unit - more time = more users reporting their experiences with it, particularly longer term). And between the two types, a pure sine wave is a better unit to have (will not cause problems with PFC based power supplies, have a long track record = known to work, and continue to do so even after the warranty period has expired).

Just a thought. ;)

Very true. You're opinion swayed me into getting a UPS at all, so it's definitely highly valued :)

I chose to get the CyberPower because I found one at an excellent price. For now, I just wanted some level of security. Down the road, I may look into refurb APCs and use the CyberPower for something else (media center, maybe). For those willing to spend more and have a higher budget, you are absolutely right that a pure sine wave is the way to go. CyberPower's units offer an admittedly lower end solution. For me, I'm more worried about voltage regulation and graceful shutdowns so their offering is sufficient. I never plan to run it off battery for more than a minute.
 
Interesting review on Tom's hardware recommending CyperPower's CP1500PFCLCD which uses an "adaptive sine wave" (in between modified and pure sine wave). CyperPower says their "adaptive sine wave" addresses the problem of zero state power of modified sine waves with PFC PSUs.


http://www.tomshardware.com/reviews...p1500pfclcd-tripp-lite-smart1500slt,2785.html

Awesome find!

Very true. You're opinion swayed me into getting a UPS at all, so it's definitely highly valued :)

I chose to get the CyberPower because I found one at an excellent price. For now, I just wanted some level of security. Down the road, I may look into refurb APCs and use the CyberPower for something else (media center, maybe). For those willing to spend more and have a higher budget, you are absolutely right that a pure sine wave is the way to go. CyberPower's units offer an admittedly lower end solution. For me, I'm more worried about voltage regulation and graceful shutdowns so their offering is sufficient. I never plan to run it off battery for more than a minute.

Same here, and also always have appreciated Nano's helpful advice, but I'm just the same kind of user as you. I don't ever plan on being on battery time for more than a minute, so the costs of spending triple the amount of CyberPower's units was just not an option for me. And so far, I've been very pleased with the unit. No buzzing or other issues. Very happy with my purchase so far :)

So I take it you finally got around to getting a PFC unit from CP?
 
Same here, and also always have appreciated Nano's helpful advice, but I'm just the same kind of user as you. I don't ever plan on being on battery time for more than a minute, so the costs of spending triple the amount of CyberPower's units was just not an option for me. And so far, I've been very pleased with the unit. No buzzing or other issues. Very happy with my purchase so far :)

So I take it you finally got around to getting a PFC unit from CP?

Glad you posted about those units a while back. Definitely seem to be a good fit for our uses. Yeah, I finally ordered one! I went with the CP1000PFCLCD as that's around double the wattage my current setup pulls under max load. Hopefully it gets here this week. I'll resurrect your old thread when it does :)
 
I have this. It works great and is silent. Well, it's silent until power is lost; on battery power it wails like a banshee.

WELL to me that is a good thing it will remind me to shut the machine down as quick as possible. Some people need their machine to run a really long time in a blackout if that is the case they need a generator and a ups.
 
I chose to get the CyberPower because I found one at an excellent price. For now, I just wanted some level of security. Down the road, I may look into refurb APCs and use the CyberPower for something else (media center, maybe). For those willing to spend more and have a higher budget, you are absolutely right that a pure sine wave is the way to go. CyberPower's units offer an admittedly lower end solution. For me, I'm more worried about voltage regulation and graceful shutdowns so their offering is sufficient. I never plan to run it off battery for more than a minute.
CyberPower's other consumer oriented units don't have that wonderful a track record from what I've seen, so I'm hesitant.

For new units, your reasoning is quite valid, as they are expensive (at least 2x as much, and that's discounted from MSRP).

But then I think of the fact you can get a pure sine wave unit (refurbished SUA1500, SMT1500 or similar) for the same money or so (~$250), I'd take a refurbished APC over the unit you have. This makes a pure sine wave unit affordable. The Online types can be had refurbished as well, but they are a bit more money (~$200 or so more if you find the right deal). Definitely a better way to go than new, and its how I buy my own (personal use).

A company is a different matter, as they should have increased financial resources, need warranty support, and can write it off.

Glad you posted about those units a while back. Definitely seem to be a good fit for our uses. Yeah, I finally ordered one! I went with the CP1000PFCLCD as that's around double the wattage my current setup pulls under max load. Hopefully it gets here this week. I'll resurrect your old thread when it does :)
But you can get a pure sine wave (Line Interactive, but the inverter is still pure sine wave) for the same/similar money, and it's likely to outlast the CyberPower unit if they're anything close to past consumer units (seem to die about the time they need batteries = no bargain IMO).

You want to get as much of a VA rating as you can IMO (1500VA is the largest you can go without needing an electrician to wire in a circuit for a larger unit; it also will give you sufficient run time, even with aging, to get the system shut down properly before the unit is out of power).

The reasoning behind it is, that the batteries age over time, which means less run time will be available over the aging process, eventually requiring replacement if the unit is still good. You might also want to note, that your current real run time tends to be less than what the software/LCD reports (brand does not matter in my experience).
 
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Glad you posted about those units a while back. Definitely seem to be a good fit for our uses. Yeah, I finally ordered one! I went with the CP1000PFCLCD as that's around double the wattage my current setup pulls under max load. Hopefully it gets here this week. I'll resurrect your old thread when it does :)

Yea, it was very interesting to me and I was pleased to see the press starting to notice the new technology. The 1000 and under units look great. Only 15 lbs light and I bet even more silent operation than their bigger brothers. Sweet, looking forward to your opinion :)

CyberPower's other consumer oriented units don't have that wonderful a track record from what I've seen, so I'm hesitant.

With all due respect Nano, if you could only show us this negative track record from which you speak of, because from what I've read so far, has been near perfect in terms of customer reviews (a quick glimpse of simple Amazon and Newegg reviews shows this), and as for tech press reviews, maybe I haven't been looking, but I really haven't seen any yet.

For new units, your reasoning is quite valid, as they are expensive (at least 2x as much, and that's discounted from MSRP).

But then I think of the fact you can get a pure sine wave unit (refurbished SUA1500, SMT1500 or similar) for the same money or so (~$250), I'd take a refurbished APC over the unit you have. This makes a pure sine wave unit affordable. The Online types can be had refurbished as well, but they are a bit more money (~$200 or so more if you find the right deal). Definitely a better way to go than new, and its how I buy my own (personal use).

A company is a different matter, as they should have increased financial resources, need warranty support, and can write it off.

But you can get a pure sine wave (Line Interactive, but the inverter is still pure sine wave) for the same/similar money, and it's likely to outlast the CyberPower unit if they're anything close to past consumer units (seem to die about the time they need batteries = no bargain IMO).

I understand there is value in refurbished pure sine wave units, but honestly, I factored more than just dollar value when considering my purchase. The following may not matter much to high paid working professionals or business customers, but as prosumer/enthusiast who also deals with audio work, I wanted something that was quiet, light-weight, and discreet. I really didn't want a 50 lb. massive footprint next to my machine, burning a hole on my carpet with noisy fans and generating more heat than I needed.

For my sole purpose, the CP unit fit the bill perfectly. It's very discreet and makes absolutely no noise, and generates barely any heat (as confirmed earlier, these units have a vampire draw of 5-8 watts). It's so good in those qualities, that I forget that it's even there working.

I understand these are not what define the primary purpose of a UPS unit, but again for my personal purpose, and for those who don't require mission critical workflow, I personally found these qualities, in addition to the budget friendly price of a brand new unit to outweigh going for a pure sine wave unit.

You want to get as much of a VA rating as you can IMO (1500VA is the largest you can go without needing an electrician to wire in a circuit for a larger unit; it also will give you sufficient run time, even with aging, to get the system shut down properly before the unit is out of power).

The reasoning behind it is, that the batteries age over time, which means less run time will be available over the aging process, eventually requiring replacement if the unit is still good. You might also want to note, that your current real run time tends to be less than what the software/LCD reports (brand does not matter in my experience).

But we don't need as much runtime as possible. Some users just want to shut down within 1 minute, which diminishes the importance of VA or runtime. Really, what does it matter how long it can keep my Mac Pro running if all I want to do is shut down immediately? And those numbers get diminished even more if your like me and live in an area that barely gets any brown-outs.
 
Is the SMT1500 the same as the SUA1500? If not which is better? I think the SUA1500 is now discontinued??

CyberPower's other consumer oriented units don't have that wonderful a track record from what I've seen, so I'm hesitant.

For new units, your reasoning is quite valid, as they are expensive (at least 2x as much, and that's discounted from MSRP).

But then I think of the fact you can get a pure sine wave unit (refurbished SUA1500, SMT1500 or similar) for the same money or so (~$250), I'd take a refurbished APC over the unit you have. This makes a pure sine wave unit affordable. The Online types can be had refurbished as well, but they are a bit more money (~$200 or so more if you find the right deal). Definitely a better way to go than new, and its how I buy my own (personal use).

A company is a different matter, as they should have increased financial resources, need warranty support, and can write it off.

But you can get a pure sine wave (Line Interactive, but the inverter is still pure sine wave) for the same/similar money, and it's likely to outlast the CyberPower unit if they're anything close to past consumer units (seem to die about the time they need batteries = no bargain IMO).

You want to get as much of a VA rating as you can IMO (1500VA is the largest you can go without needing an electrician to wire in a circuit for a larger unit; it also will give you sufficient run time, even with aging, to get the system shut down properly before the unit is out of power).

The reasoning behind it is, that the batteries age over time, which means less run time will be available over the aging process, eventually requiring replacement if the unit is still good. You might also want to note, that your current real run time tends to be less than what the software/LCD reports (brand does not matter in my experience).
 
Is the SMT1500 the same as the SUA1500? If not which is better? I think the SUA1500 is now discontinued??
The SMT1500 is the replacement for the SUA1500 in the US (visibly differentiated by the LCD screen in the new model). But spec wise, they're close in electrical specifications (a couple of differences, such as USB has replaced DB9, and the surge suppression's been increased a bit IIRC).

But the SUA1500 is still made for other markets (Mexico for example, and the SUA1500i for 230V markets).
 
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