Samsung made fun of Apple for not including a charger… until Samsung stopped including a charger. I will let you decide for yourself if you think that pattern might be repeated.
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University Researchers Who Built a CSAM Scanning System Urge Apple to Not Use the 'Dangerous' Technology
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Apple, Google, Microsoft, Dropbox, etc. already make that assumption about all of their cloud users.
UPDATE: turns out I didn’t understand it correctly. I have to admit that, Krizoitz. Still not enthused about this change, but if it can be avoided by not using iCloud (which I don’t and never had) then at least that there is an effective opt out option.
Apple has the key to decrypt those iCloud photos.
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So what you’re saying is, there’s no way that China can make a database of banned images with their hashes (essentially what’s happening here just with abuse organizations making the hash database) and then say “Apple, add these hashes or you can’t sell here”. Yup, no way the Chinese
Government can come up with such a simple strategy and implementation.
child abuse is naturally horrible, but is the incidence rate remotely high enough (especially how currently if you just disable iCloud it doesn’t work) even worth risking these other things? Not even remotely in my opinion.
That makes little difference. At least in the USA.
The law specifically states that Apple cannot be forced to scan for CSAM except via subpeona or warrant. Once found, they have a legal responsibility turning it over to authorities.
Is it on the iCloud? Likely. Just look at other cloud providers that elect to scan for it.
Some people are afraid of the government, some aren't.
What people are forgetting is that this CSAM stuff has already been implemented by multiple vendors!
What people are forgetting is that this CSAM stuff has already been implemented by multiple vendors!
For sure you're right, but that wont make me any easier on the originator. I'll eventually have to come to term with the idea of Big Brother being real.
If you want to believe the sky is falling and reflexively assume will, feel free.
I won’t.
A lot of people complaining here would be fine with Apple scanning their cloud servers (as the other vendors do)
This. So much this.
I bought a Nokia 220 and a DSLR. My life is so much better. I am more focused and less stressed now.
Apple is straight up lying. They already self-censor material in Taiwan that would offend China even though it technically isn't illegal in Taiwan and China has not outwardly demanded it. Apple will absolutely, without any question whatsoever, use this technology to breach privacy in any country that mandates they do so by law. There is zero chance they would defy a nation like China or India in the name of privacy.
Yeah, it’s not like we have multiple examples of government overreach doing exactly that. Oh, wait…
Have you watched Craig’s interview with the WSJ? He told everybody you can easily disable the CSAM scanning by not using iCloud Photos. Simple as that. You can also keep the rest of the iCloud going, CSAM concerns only your iCloud photo library.
PS I am not defending Apple here, just trying to understand if there is a real problem and the scope of it.
My iPhone 12 pro I bought in China does not have FaceTime Audio.
that tells me enough.
the answer on your question is “NO”.
That won’t help you if the photo scanning becomes the norm and is used as a back door to look at everything else on your phone without your knowledge or consent.
It is still an assumption, isn’t it? Meanwhile, GrayKey (a hardware box) and, more recently, Pegasus (software), were successfully used to extract just about anything from an iPhone. Apple were patching these security holes very quickly.
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Them patching a flaw that allows a random third-party to examine/steal your stuff in no way implies they themselves won’t do it.
As a shareholder I'm totally fine with AAPL picking $$$$$, that's in my best interest, and what they're supposed to be doing.
Enabling warrantless search capabilities for the governments of planet Earth is really not part of building insanely great products.
Should've stuck with: we can't, that's not what we do, please get back to us when authoritarian government has expanded to the point of: "you must do this." We're not quite there yet, but big tech colluding with big government is enabling 1984 a whole lot faster.