I just upgraded my WF to TP-Link BE5500 Wi-fi 7. Speed is up on every device new and old BUT the range has dropped right off and back of the house is dead! Very disappointed, but assuming this is TP-Link problem.
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Unlike iPhone 16 Models, Apple's M4 Macs Lack Wi-Fi 7 Support
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It's not just about single-device speeds, but network sharing/usage/saturation. In a busy household (or business!), it will be noticable.
Wifi 7,as far as I can gather is still not fully ratified. Most of the specs are Locked down but it’s still a standard that is in development. Same thing happened with 802.11N. In the end some devices released too early were not compatible with the final standard. I have lots of geeks as friends, not one has Wifi 7 at home. Multiple including myself are wired for 2.5/10G Ethernet.
So step up a couple hundy and push the big shiny red button! Get TB5! All your friends already have!
Mine is every day via TB dock on 2.5gbe which I routinely saturate (no not internet, local database crunching - have all the core slamming away (well all - 1, because remember kids to leave 1 core to host the UI! ha, ask me how I know). But WiFi 7 on my phone? For what? If you’re doing heavy data work WiFi just won’t cut it (collision handling is terrible compared to wired). Most people are rarely if ever will go much more than 5 if that other than bursting. I mean apple‘s always proud of how many 4K uncompressed streams they can pump through, but I’d bet 99% the biggest load is streaming tv… which doesn’t even break 100mbit in most cases.
Do you have any idea how much network traffic you would need to be active to saturate and divide a 6e network? If even for a moment? Honestly, you would have to have about a truckload of endpoints demanding CONSTANT full scale attention from a 10gb connection, unrelenting and non- aware, to start the 6e negotiation. If you and your buddies have that kind of a gaming parlor set up that it becomes an issue, you can absolutely afford the resolution.
bahaha well, i bought an ipad pro 11 m4 with stupid 8GB RAM which i really doubt at this point is gonna be future proof (after iphone 17 12GB rumors)....
I think you are the first person to mention this. Yes honestly I’m actually more surprised that Apple chose to include a draft Wifi 7 standard on the iPhone 16s than that they didn‘t include it on the newest Macs.
Your isp may be willing to upgrade you for free. Not as cool of a router as the fancy ones but probably better than what you have now
They plan these products with the aim of making an x amount of profit, if it ends up being less then expected then they’ll make adjustments. In this case the WiFi 7 was the victim. It might sound ridiculous to you and me but these people are greedy at the psycho level.
Huge difference not only in speeds but congestion. Mid band 5G easily hits gigabit. You will not get that on LTE.
My same thought as well. Like in Apple’s mind, did they really think the Zoomers who are addicted to TikTok were all clamoring for the latest networking standard so that the videos they see while doom scrolling can now auto-play 25% quicker? Not to mention the $700 mesh router system they’d need to even get close to feeling any substantive improvements. I’m being facetious of course but seriously, what are the real world use cases for prioritizing that move over the more obvious one of including it in these new machines? I could give at least a dozen realistic scenarios that would justify the need for the latest networking standard to be part of a pro computer for use by its pro users…
Phones use Qualcomm chips for WiFi, but do Macs? If so then it's not so simple as stuffing a Qualcomm chip in if they use another such as internal Apple WiFi chips.
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likely power related. WiFi 7 chips are still power hungry.
Maybe Apple is holding out until their wireless chip is ready?
99% of people won’t notice a difference in speed, whether it be today or 6 years from now.
Even I barely notice it for work, and I’m always sending many double digit gigabyte files back and forth between my Mac and multiple dedicated hosting platforms as well as Amazon S3. I don’t even have 6E, just 6. Most people don’t even have a wired backhaul between their routers so they don’t even get the full performance benefit. And many people don’t even have internet that can saturate 6 typically, much less 6E or 7. Right now 7 routers are really expensive for a set anyway.
It sucks but the people who really care and have the fastest internet will usually be on wired anyway. The ultra speed 1%-ers.
99% of people won’t notice a difference in speed, whether it be today or 6 years from now.
Even I barely notice it for work, and I’m always sending many double digit gigabyte files back and forth between my Mac and multiple dedicated hosting platforms as well as Amazon S3. I don’t even have 6E, just 6. Most people don’t even have a wired backhaul between their routers so they don’t even get the full performance benefit. And many people don’t even have internet that can saturate 6 typically, much less 6E or 7. Right now 7 routers are really expensive for a set anyway.
It sucks but the people who really care and have the fastest internet will usually be on wired anyway. The ultra speed 1%-ers.
