You have been able to keep unlimited and do DPP no problem for forever. New unlimited plan tho.... Just go to that, prob half what you're paying now.
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You have been able to keep unlimited and do DPP no problem for forever. New unlimited plan tho.... Just go to that, prob half what you're paying now.
You know you're responding to a post from 2014 right?
Nope. For several years, you were required to buy new phones in full if you kept unlimited data.
I responded to his today's post on this old thread and I did it to let him know so he can check on the date next time before bringing up dead threads.
Is that ok with you or you find responding to a post from 3 years ago productive?
Here is the BS line in the advertisement:
"On all Verizon Unlimited plans you get our fast LTE speeds. To ensure a quality experience for all customers, after 22 GB of data usage on a line during any billing cycle we may prioritize usage behind other customers in the event of network congestion."
In other words they throttle back!
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"On all Verizon Unlimited plans you get our fast LTE speeds. To ensure a quality experience for all customers, after 22 GB of data usage on a line during any billing cycle we may prioritize usage behind other customers in the event of network congestion."
In other words they throttle back!
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You can also do the device payment plan if you currently are paying $50/mo for the unlimited data portion.
It's not a throttle, and it's the same as what T-Mobile and AT&T do. You may experience slower speeds in congested areas, but lots of people go over this and rarely/never experience slower speeds.
That's weird because I thought Verizon had a special agreement with the government not to throttle LTE connections and all their unlimited data plan up to now have been full speed and unthrottled for people that used lots and lots of data even over 100-200GB per month.
Now they are allowed to throttle? Why is the terms and conditions they agreed on with the FCC to purchase those LTE bands are not enforced any longer?
Not really sure what is going on...
The FCC agreement forbids handset locking. It doesn't address throttling.
The horse's mouth:
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2009-title47-vol2/xml/CFR-2009-title47-vol2-sec27-16.xml
The horse's mouth:
https://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CFR-2009-title47-vol2/xml/CFR-2009-title47-vol2-sec27-16.xml
In othee words if a line uses up more than 22 GB of data it may be deprioritized only if and when it's using a tower that is congested, and only for the duration of the congestion (on that particular tower).
You'll have to double check that.
For Verizon specifically and the frequencies they bought from the government it included a no throttling clause.
That's why all other carriers could throttle for many years but verizon unlimited data plan customers where the only ones not effected or throttled before.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/verizon-drops-throttling-plan-amid-pressure-from-fcc-1412210196
http://www.theverge.com/2014/7/30/5953139/fcc-deeply-troubled-by-verizon-plan-to-throttle-lte-data
http://money.cnn.com/2014/10/02/technology/mobile/verizon-throttle/
http://mttlr.org/2014/10/27/yieldin...an-to-extend-data-throttling-to-4g-customers/
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I believe when it comes to the current unlimited offerings, part of the difference in all of that is between throttling and deprioritization. Another part is in the difference between the unlimited data plans/features of the past and what the new ones are like and their terms and conditions.
I hear you.
Maybe its a new plan offered with those new terms that are allowed and still the old original iPhone unlimited data plans from back in 2010 could not be touched or throttled?
Not 100% sure.
There is no explicit "no-throttling" clause in the 700 MHz C block rules, the way there is an explicit "no locked handsets" clause. Tom Wheeler alleged that the rules could be interpreted to forbid throttling. Verizon disagreed:
"Although the policy may result in slowed throughput under very limited circumstances, neither the C block rules nor the Open Internet rules requires any particular minimum speeds, so long as providers are transparent with their customers."
https://www.cnet.com/news/verizon-wireless-ceo-fires-back-at-fcc-over-throttling-brouhaha/
Verizon ultimately backed down, so there was never a court case testing whether the block C rules prohibited throttling or not.
Today, I doubt the FCC, under the chairmanship of Ajit Pai, will even raise an eyebrow.
Well there had to be something there if they tried to do it before until the FCC put their foot down and they changed their tune
The FCC and big billion dollar wireless corporations dont just assume things or have verbal agreements right?
And you aren't even throttled, you are simply deprioritized and only if and when you are connected to a cell/tower that is congested and only for the duration of that congestion on that particular cell/tower.
While that is Verizon's official standpoint, I am sure the algorithm is much much simpler than that, and that it is much closer to throttling than we all think. That said, that is just speculation on my part.
The rep I spoke to said that "deprioritization" doesn't throttle you to 3G or lower. When you do connect, you are connected at LTE speeds. However, there may be a delay in connecting to a tower, or other users may get priority over you. Again, take it with a grain of salt. If I had to guess, in real life use, it will end up being just like slower speeds.
Maybe someone on T-mobile can tell us what their experience is like when they exceed 26GB on the ONE plan.
Yeah that rep gave you a bunch of bs
128kbps is not LTE speeds.
With T-Mobile even when going over 26GB you get throttled during peak times only on congested towers. I hit over 50-60GB some months with no problems. Its not like it was before with AT&T as soon as you reached the soft cap you were slowed down everywhere at any time.
I'm sure it's the way it is now with most carriers with the new FCC rules they're not allowed to throttle the way they did before.
Yeah that rep gave you a bunch of bs
128kbps is not LTE speeds.
With T-Mobile even when going over 26GB you get throttled during peak times only on congested towers. I hit over 50-60GB some months with no problems. Its not like it was before with AT&T as soon as you reached the soft cap you were slowed down everywhere at any time.
I'm sure it's the way it is now with most 8arriers with the new FCC rules they're not allowed to throttle the way they did before.
Is it confirmed that "deprioritization" = 128 kbps on Verizon?
Why is everyone bitching? Why not just be happy they brought it back?? I have 7 lines and had 30 gb's to share. Now I will have 22 per line. Before even thinking about slowing down in a congested area. If I use over 22gb's I need to throw my phone out. That's way to much to be using. Using Netflix and streaming videos is different. But still I don't see why people is bitching when they are giving us a bunch more data for not much more cash. Some people's prices even went down. Mine went up $16 a month. I was glad to jump On the unlimited plan. I'll never use 22 gbs in one month.
I don't think that's true at all. They may call it something else like "deprioritization" but they most certainly do impose limitations for high data users. Even on the grandfathered plan, although that threshold is much higher.
Even Verizon doesn't deny this.