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Unlocked 3G iPhone to Launch in Italy?
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Sorry people, why do all threads of recent have to contain grammer lessons. Who cares? I like to read about the rumor, not a freaking grammer lesson. Most can figure out what is meant by the poster regardless of grammer correctness.
EDIT: Better idea, if you have a grammer concern, PM the poster and leave the rest of us out of it.
EDIT: Better idea, if you have a grammer concern, PM the poster and leave the rest of us out of it.
just give me soon the damn iPhone 3G with 32gig storage for $499 and I am happy!
UNLIKELY
Italians don't pronounce the H (at least I get this impression when I hear Italians speak English), so for them 'higher' starts with vocal.
Anyone noticed the Palm Centro commercial? Looks like a rip off of the iPod Nano commercial.
They expect that phone which is as ugly as a kick in the #@lls, to compete with the iPhone?
http://www.palm.com/us/products/smartphones/centro/
They expect that phone which is as ugly as a kick in the #@lls, to compete with the iPhone?
http://www.palm.com/us/products/smartphones/centro/
As someone living in Sydney, I feel your pain. But the population of Italy is 59 million and the population of Australia is 20 million. Plus I hear Italy has a decent phone network too.
EDIT: Sorry, this has been covered several times above.
While I can see other, currently iPhone-less territories skipping the current gen and going straight in with the 3G version, I'm calling BS on the fact that it will be pre-announced before Steve Jobs gets to announce it [presumably a WWDC in June].
Steve Jobs loves being the one to tell the news.
Steve Jobs loves being the one to tell the news.
Considering WWDC is in June which is the beginning of summer, I would say that nothing will be out before then.
apologies to bacaramac
copied from the spotlight/apple dictionary entry on 'an'
(and it's looking like we're all correct here)
an |an| |øn| |ən| |n| |an| |ən|
adjective
the form of the indefinite article (see a ) used before words beginning with a vowel sound.
USAGE The traditional rule about whether to use a or an before a word beginning with h is that if the h is sounded, a is the correct form ( : a hospital;: a hotel). But if the accent is on the second syllable ( : historic;: habitual), there is greater likelihood that, at least in speaking, 'an habitual' will sound more natural. One form is not more correct than the other, although some constructions may strike readers as pretentious or old-fashioned ( : an heroic act;: an humanitarian). See also usage at a .
copied from the spotlight/apple dictionary entry on 'an'
(and it's looking like we're all correct here)
an |an| |øn| |ən| |n| |an| |ən|
adjective
the form of the indefinite article (see a ) used before words beginning with a vowel sound.
USAGE The traditional rule about whether to use a or an before a word beginning with h is that if the h is sounded, a is the correct form ( : a hospital;: a hotel). But if the accent is on the second syllable ( : historic;: habitual), there is greater likelihood that, at least in speaking, 'an habitual' will sound more natural. One form is not more correct than the other, although some constructions may strike readers as pretentious or old-fashioned ( : an heroic act;: an humanitarian). See also usage at a .
This is getting very off topic, but surely, historical is not with a silent h? (I'm Danish, so if I'm wrong that's my excuse
This has probably been said, but in this case it's written that way because of a spoken elision. Normally, the 'h' in 'historical' is a hard 'h.' The 'an historical' part is mostly said as 'an istorical' as the 'a' and 'historical' together are harder to pronounce and forces an additional pause between the words where there shouldn't be one. So, it could go either way. I do not believe either are incorrect for that one. 'History,' however requires the 'a.'
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/anhistoric.html
In French deux hommes is pronounced like 'deuz omme'. Every language, as far as I know, has elisions.
Also, whoever is using 'an higher' is an idiot.
But then French has two different ways of not pronouncing "h".
- You can not pronounce "h" as a consonant
- You can not pronounce "h" as a vowel
In deux hommes, it's not pronounced as a vowel, so 'deuz omme" is correct.
In contrast, in the phrase les halles the rule says that "h" should not be not pronounced as a consonant, but even though the rule says that it should be "lay all" the reality is that it is not pronounced as a vowel so the result is the smoother 'lay z'all'.
The elisions in many languages are there for the flow - exceptions to normal pronounciation are made when the standard rule will be ackward or difficult.
A French friend once explained one of my gaffes by saying "if it does not flow, it is not French". (Actually, he said "eef eet duze not flow, eet ees naught Franch" - but his English was way better than my French, so I shouldn't make fun
). Perhaps the best French language advice that I ever received.
But then French has two different ways of not pronouncing "h".
- You can not pronounce "h" as a consonant
- You can not pronounce "h" as a vowel
In deux hommes, it's not pronounced as a vowel, so 'deuz omme" is correct.
In contrast, in the phrase les halles the "h" is not pronounced as a consonant, so even though the rule says that it should be "lay all" it is the smoother 'lay z'all'.
The elisions in many languages are there for the flow - exceptions to normal pronounciation are made when the standard rule will be ackward or difficult.
A French friend once explained one of my gaffes by saying "if it does not flow, it is not French". (Actually, he said "eef eet duze not flow, eet ees naught Franch" - but his English was way better than my French, so I shouldn't make fun
Try having that conversation with a Klingon, and they'll roast your liver and have your heart for lunch.
I bought 2 phones in early March just after they went to 16GB (one for me & one for the missus.) I have no problem with Apple moving forward and I spent over a thousand with tax.the 3g iphone with 32gb for 499 would be the killer for all previous buyer...
i mean i bought it a month ago and the price shall drop in another by 100 dollars?
that would piss 2much people off. if they do i would be really angry
There will always be newer technology just over the horizon. You have to pick a time to buy and just be happy.
Your pet peeve died out even among English teachers a decade ago. None of my college professors harped on this non-rule. True, "where is the apple store located" sounds better, but there is nothing in any modern English book about ending sentences with a preposition.
http://www.wsu.edu/~brians/errors/nonerrors.html#preposition
That one, and the one following, are my pet peeves. Sentences can end with prepositions, and begin with conjunctions. Who knew? I do, and so do many others. Please, get used to it.
I agree. I've been waiting on 3G in the iPhonebut I'm not a BlackBerry user thankfully as those people generally annoy me. If they were on sale tomorrow, I'd be at the Apple Store right after work. My coverage isn't spotty. For me, there's 3G spreading at least 40 miles in any direction from my house.
As the iPhone isn't subsidized, you can upgrade to it whenever you like. As for the contract obligation, you'll have to sign a new one. I'm unsure if it's in addition to the current one or not. Usually they aren't.
But then French has two different ways of not pronouncing "h".
- You can not pronounce "h" as a consonant
- You can not pronounce "h" as a vowel
In deux hommes, it's not pronounced as a vowel, so 'deuz omme" is correct.
In contrast, in the phrase les halles the rule says that "h" should not be not pronounced as a consonant, but even though the rule says that it should be "lay all" the reality is that it is not pronounced as a vowel so the result is the smoother 'lay z'all'.
The elisions in many languages are there for the flow - exceptions to normal pronounciation are made when the standard rule will be ackward or difficult.
A French friend once explained one of my gaffes by saying "if it does not flow, it is not French". (Actually, he said "eef eet duze not flow, eet ees naught Franch" - but his English was way better than my French, so I shouldn't make fun
Yes this is all true, but you slightly misunderstand me. In English, the elision that occurs in 'an historic' is written after the way it is spoken, to ease the reading. 'A historic' is also perfectly acceptable. Elisions are generally not written. This is a special case. Contractions are forms of elisions that are written with the omitted letters represented by the apostrophe.
In every language, elisions have formed to make speaking easier and are rarely the result of rulesthe missed point, or perhaps I failed in my explanation. The Deux Hommes pronunciation isn't a rule. You could pronounce it without the elision if you preferred, you'd just sound slow. Your friend had it correctit's all about flow not rules.