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I'm not sure I'd be that fussed about Retina Display on MBP; the resolution is high enough for me not to notice any pixelation or degradation in quality.

u wont know what u missed til u tried/have it ;)

the same was said about HDTV a few years ago
 
I don't know guys, after discovering this geekbench result yesterday and trying to understand the results leads to me believe that they may collapse the 13" pro model into the macbook air line! And only leave the pro machines to the 15" and possibly a 17" (if they don't discontinue that)

If it were a to follow the previous releases then this in fact should be a MacBookPro9,2 (15") and not a 9,1 (13"). Meaning that the 9,1 would be the 15". We know that processor in that geekbench score won't go in at 13" model, it draws too much power 45W and there has never been a 13" with a 45W processor.

If we think about it, today's 13" sandy bridge pro and air are "almost" neck to neck in performance. With the new ivy bridge processor the performance gap becomes even smaller and almost close to the same! It makes perfect sense that they would do that as new airs probably could perform just as well as a 13" pro.

What do you think?

Possible, but I wouldn't read much into it other than perhaps launch order. The x,1 isn't always a particular form factor - the 6,1 was the 17" for example, whereas the current model 17" is the 8,3.
 
You've never owned a game console or car ? :confused:

Aw geez. You know what the poster was saying. Why the need to be smug? Also I think it's a bridge too far to suggest a car is a computer. A car may have a computer in it to improve effeciency or allow certain features, but the concept of a car certainly does not require a CPU, like say a game console does.
 
I've been saving up for over a year for my next laptop and while I've been 100% Mac for a long time, I've decided to part ways with Apple for this next purchase. For one, I ran out of patience waiting for Ivy Bridge Laptops and I wanted one that is available now. Secondly, I have been getting more and more disgruntled with Apple's quality recently (as mentioned in the linked article). Thirdly, I wanted the size of a hard drive but the speed of an SSD, and HP provides Intel's Smart Response technology that gives an SSD cache that has been proven to work remarkedly well. Lastly and perhaps on the most significant note, I have a kid that I am saving for college for, and the over $1000 savings is just too much to ignore.

That being said... I'm not switching the entire household over... only my personal laptop. I'd dread having to play IT guy and disinfecting the family computers when they get viruses. Needless to say, the one feature that is actually appealing to me in Mountain Lion is Gatekeeper.
 
Now that is some great investigating! Hopefully 8gb standard on the MBP. instead of 4gb.

Why force the extra 4GB on users if it's not needed? We see so many people complaining about how expensive Apple products are, then complain when they don't include unneeded expensive components.
 
I've been away from MacRumors for a while due to exams. Can anybody update me on what the general time span is from the rumours we have so far of when the next MacBook Pros and/or iMacs are due to be released?

I'm getting excited lol.

Thanks.;)
 
To those talking about the Mac Pro, this rumor DOES state a release for the new laptops this summer, that could be from June to August. Plenty of time for a new Mac Pro still :) I guess you will have to wait and see what WWDC brings? Could be one more thing...?
 
I've been away from MacRumors for a while due to exams. Can anybody update me on what the general time span is from the rumours we have so far of when the next MacBook Pros and/or iMacs are due to be released?

I'm getting excited lol.

Thanks.;)

June. Probably announced at WWDC.
 
Why force the extra 4GB on users if it's not needed? We see so many people complaining about how expensive Apple products are, then complain when they don't include unneeded expensive components.

Look around at the competition. Everyone's standard offerings are starting at 8GB RAM.

RAM is not an "unneeded expensive" component. It is a "needed inexpensive" component that Apple just so happens to mark up tremendously if you want to add more.
 
Adobe optimized around CUDA long ago and that's probably where it will end, but unless you have a Mac Pro, you don't have access to a Quadro card.

I just saw the latest demos of CS6 and how fast the Mercury engine speeds up workflow with Nvidia GPUs.
It's absolutely stunning how fast they are.
Ivy Bridge is going to give maybe a 10%-15% increase in performance.
CUDA is 100%-300% faster than non-CUDA GPUs. :eek:
That's huge for Photoshop, Premiere Pro and After Effects users.

Now, if only we can get some Macs with the full line of Quadro GPUs.
Please Apple.
Thank you. :)
 
Threads =/= Speed

Core/thread count matters a lot in Geekbench numbers - probably much more so than they do in regular usage. With dual cores coming in at 4 threads these days, it's a little hard to imagine how often most people will need a four core (eight thread) machine. Even Photoshop or encoding a video stream - unless you're doing a lot of it in parallel, will you see that much of a benefit of having more than 4 threads to work with?

Still nice to see numbers - though I decided not to wait any longer and ended up getting a Mac Pro 1,1 off ebay a couple of weeks ago - quad core 2.0 GHz model, now scrounging around ebay for a processor upgrade (quad 3.0, octo 2.66 are the likeliest candidates). Figure that for most of my usage lots of fast storage (a Raptor and a 3TB 7200 RPM Seagate) and a fast GPU (Radeon 5870 :-D) will more than make up for the slower processor compared to SB/IVB.

Upgraded from a dual 1.25 GHz G4 with a Geekbench ~1100 to ~4200 on this machine... already a happy camper. If I splurge and throw in eight cores of 3.0 GHz I should be looking at a GeekBench of ~9-10k...
 
Why force the extra 4GB on users if it's not needed? We see so many people complaining about how expensive Apple products are, then complain when they don't include unneeded expensive components.

Do you really think Macs are expensive because of their components?
Seriously?

The base $2,500 Mac Pro is fitted with 3GB of memory. :p
 
Update: 9to5Mac has done some digging and come up with a few more interesting tidbits about the upcoming MacBook Pro refresh. For one, code pulled from the Mountain Lion beta appears to indicate that the Ivy Bridge machines will boast USB 3.0 and a new GPU in the NVIDIA GeForce GT 650M. The site also claims that the laptops will be slimmer than the current gen, a rumor that's we've been hearing for quite some time now.


should be great for cooking out!

http://www.engadget.com/2012/05/14/intel-ivy-bridge-thermal-paste/
 
I just saw the latest demos of CS6 and how fast the Mercury engine speeds up workflow with Nvidia GPUs.
It's absolutely stunning how fast they are.
Ivy Bridge is going to give maybe a 10%-15% increase in performance.
CUDA is 100%-300% faster than non-CUDA GPUs. :eek:
That's huge for Photoshop, Premiere Pro and After Effects users.

Now, if only we can get some Macs with the full line of Quadro GPUs.
Please Apple.
Thank you. :)

That would be the one thing that would make me return my 27" iMac. Apple sticking an Nvidia Quadro GPU as CTO for $500 more would have me drooling.
 
I've been saving up for over a year for my next laptop and while I've been 100% Mac for a long time, I've decided to part ways with Apple for this next purchase. For one, I ran out of patience waiting for Ivy Bridge Laptops and I wanted one that is available now. Secondly, I have been getting more and more disgruntled with Apple's quality recently (as mentioned in the linked article). Thirdly, I wanted the size of a hard drive but the speed of an SSD, and HP provides Intel's Smart Response technology that gives an SSD cache that has been proven to work remarkedly well. Lastly and perhaps on the most significant note, I have a kid that I am saving for college for, and the over $1000 savings is just too much to ignore.

That being said... I'm not switching the entire household over... only my personal laptop. I'd dread having to play IT guy and disinfecting the family computers when they get viruses. Needless to say, the one feature that is actually appealing to me in Mountain Lion is Gatekeeper.
I believe that HD is actually made by Seagate (Momentus XT) and can be installed into pretty much any modern laptop. I installed one for someone the other week and it does seem faster than the 7200RPM drive in my current MBP, although a pure SSD is still noticeably faster. Will probably get one for my next MBP, assuming Apple doesn't give you the option of having 2 HDs (an SSD and HD).
 
With dual cores coming in at 4 threads these days, it's a little hard to imagine how often most people will need a four core (eight thread) machine.

People will always find a use for CPU Power, horsepower, and salt.

(I'm on an aluminum macbook and I'm noticing things on the web getting slow, even on a fresh OS install.)
 
I believe that HD is actually made by Seagate (Momentus XT) and can be installed into pretty much any modern laptop. I installed one for someone the other week and it does seem faster than the 7200RPM drive in my current MBP, although a pure SSD is still noticeably faster. Will probably get one for my next MBP, assuming Apple doesn't give you the option of having 2 HDs (an SSD and HD).

True, but having to do it after-market, and the HDD not being in Apple's warranty are two things to consider. Having to buy the stock HDD then buy a third party to install isn't always ideal.

Personally, I'd just buy the stock and replace it with the hybrid or an SSD.
 
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