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After being a relatively new full time convert to mac (as I have also owned and built pc's/laptops as well as running a mac), I am happy with the machines that I have. My old 17" MBP is still very healthy, the only thing I would change is the OD and replace with an SSD (if possible) and upgrade the RAM on both my 2011 15" MBP and mac mini server.

Personally i;ve bought the hardware for what I need it for and not just because it's Apple.... simple way of looking at things but there your go..... :eek:
 
I'd like to see Apple pushing the bleeding edge as far as it can go for those in the creative industries that need the performance, not delivering everything to the lowest common denominator.

To an extent I disagree, though a bump on the Mac Pro is needed many professionals are happily productive on Macbook Pros and iMacs (I know I am ;) )

A new Mac Pro would be awesome, with a rackmount option would be better.
 
This is what I think also. The "pro" versions will be 15" and 17" only, and then the macbooks (They will probably drop the "air" branding") will be available in 11", 13" and possibly 15"

If the 15" Macbook (Air) begins to outsell the 15" Pro, Apple could very well reduce the Macbook Pro line to just the 17" in the future.

Whatever happens, I can't wait to update my 2008 MPB!

Nope, they'll rename the air and pro to simply "MacBook" and it'll be 11'' 13'' 15'' and 17''
 
If those are the benchmark scores Im not really feeling new mac envy, there not much more than what my MBP gets. I'm sure that'll change in a few years haha. But I am excited to see if they make a new unibody design. Hopefully the new Sandy Bridges delivery these results and is better on battery life. Thats most important!
 
Or "open Mac," I should say.

But first, this isn't my first post. I've been with MacRumors from day one. I just rarely post and have no idea what my screen name and password were.

Second, I'll beat you to the punch plus deny you the satisfaction of calling me a Troll – a term which has lost all meaning – first. I'm a Troll (whatever the hell that means).

If you don't enthusiastically agree with 100% of everything Apple does, you are a disloyal, treacherous heretic who should delete his forum account and not say another word (unless it's always "Yes!").

I've never owned a computer that wasn't made by Apple and have been a loyal customer and promoter for three decades+.

But I guess if I would like a new generation Mac Pro or some sort of "open" Mac, maybe with two 16x PCI slots (with spacers) and a port of SLI and CrossFireX (which makes sense if Apple's goal with both GCD and OpenCL was harnessing GPGPU power - like most SuperComputers do now) and maybe a Thunderbolt port, I'm not singing from the hymnal anymore like I should, and should rightly leave the Apple community and buy the first non-Apple computer in my life. A nice Hackintosh.

Fictional Apple Manifesto:

"The Mac Pro isn't selling so well. Haven't a clue why. :confused:"

"I mean, sure, relative to all our other products, it hasn't gotten the same 'care and feeding' since around 2003 when it was called the Power Mac G5. Let's see: 2012 - 2003; that around 9 years -- NOT EVEN A DECADE FOR HEAVEN'S SAKE! So why the urgency for a major reinvention like the iMac has seen from the Bondi original to the 'Luxo Lamp' iMac to the present incarnation to the soon-to-be-released model?"

"And sure the Mac Pro's existence has consisted mainly of a series of uninspiring, as-usual spec bumps that didn't create lines outside our stores. And maybe the 'Radiator' or 'Cheese Grater' Industrial Design looks a little dated after 9 years."

"And sure we abruptly put the brakes on our once aggressive development of and commitment to Grand Central Dispatch as of Snow Leopard, so buying a twelve-core Mac Pro makes absolutely no sense if so many of the cores are left tapping their feet or dozing off from boredom."

"But the slowdown in sales has absolutely nothing to do with us. It's the Pro community's fault. Why the heck should we have to refresh the product to keep up sales? People should just keep buying more units of the same generation."

"But, no! They want their stupid Parallel GPU Processing through multiple graphics cards. They want killer new Core APIs like Tiger introduced and Leopard. They want us to spend some time improving Grand Central Dispatch in Mac -- I mean OS X. They want their Thunderbolt. The even want SATA III? What a bunch of whiners. So demanding. It's your fault - just quit complaining and keep buying more of them. There's nothing we can do to create enthusiasm for the product."

"Or if you refuse to keep buying the current (and final) generation of Mac Pros, buy a Mac mini ('cause it's just so small and cute!) and use the Thunderbolt port to attach a giant PCI card chassis to the little devil. Then add your duplicate graphics cards and write to nVidia and AMD/ATI and tell them to write SLI and CrossFireX drivers or System Extensions or whatever. Then add a card to the box attached to the mini that has an eSATA or another Thunderbolt port on it and attach a big 4TB external drive to the PCI card box connected to the cute little devil AND STOP COMPLAINING! (Oh, and do it while we still make 'Trucks,' 'cause we can't wait to stop making personal computers -- so....2010.)"

"BTW, why are you asking why the upcoming MacBook outperforms the upcoming iMac? We've told you and told you: the AirBook (Woops! Let that one slip) the MacBook Air is the what you can expect future Macs to be like -- not the stupid iMac! C'mon!"

"We first told you at 'Away From the Mac' -- I MEAN, "BACK To the Mac.'

"And the upcoming MacBooks and iMacs will be sealed with hot glue. Just a heads up. Oh, and we're discontinuing our external SuperDrive -- selling too well."

"But this is all about before we retire the Mac brand. It's one of the most recognized brands globally, but it was your parents who used Macs. Who's going to want to use a product that sounds so old-fashioned. And why is Coca-Cola still using their centuries-old brand name? Kids don't buy the same soda their grandparents drank! Coca-Cola's mistake was they didn't give New Coke enough of a chance."

We would have retired the Mac brand a long time ago, except those pesky YoY growth numbers foil our plans every time! If we just hadn't run that 'Get a Mac' TV ad campaign!"

Oh, and lastly, if you've been reading pieces about how we're a bit lost about what we want the iPhone '5' to be, it's because Steve Jobs is no longer running Apple."​



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Well Said.

About the only thing you could have added would to have been to point out that the development of these technology enablers costs money ... and Apple doesn't have enough money in the bank to invest in them.

Of course in moderate counterpoint, it is very true that Apple is a lot more than just a personal computer company today. But the question there is to what degree have they been not paying attention to their core DNA?


Steve used a Mac Pro.

-hh
 
This is going to be somewhat of an improvement over my Macbook (Late 2006):)
Geekbench score: 1735

New Imac will definitely satisfy my needs, but it has to hurry the hell up.
Macbook soon to be giving it's last breath.
 
9to5mac.com reporting the new MBP will have a retina display, thinner design, usb 3!! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


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Hoping for Standard 8 GBs of RAM - iMac

Really hoping the iMac comes standard with 8 GBs of RAM so I could upgrade to 16 GBs of RAM. This would be my first Mac by the way.
 
9to5mac.com reporting the new MBP will have a retina display, thinner design, usb 3!! :eek::eek::eek::eek::eek:


Start saving....
And if the MBP looks the same (just thinner) I hope there's not a lot whining about it. Personally I think it's a great design and not much needs to be approved on design wise. If they make the current design thinner and add retina display this thing will be kickass. :)
 
Having been spoilt by the Retina Display on iPhone and iPad, I'm really looking forwawrd to a Retina Display 13 inch MBA!
 
If Apple is going to kill the Mac Pro then why don't they come out and say it?

Because they probably have tons of parts to build new pros leaving the need to dump a lot of inventory. At this point I'm 99.9% certain the Mac Pro is dead!
 
I'm not sure I'd be that fussed about Retina Display on MBP; the resolution is high enough for me not to notice any pixelation or degradation in quality.
 
FWIW- my Early 2008 8-core MacPro with 8GB of RAM gets 12563 on Geekbench running at 64 bit. And the memory is only 800 MHz DDR2 FB-DIMM.

I don't see the numbers for the new MBPs and iMacs as all that inspiring. And I am afraid that MacPros will soon be history.
 
Really hoping the iMac comes standard with 8 GBs of RAM so I could upgrade to 16 GBs of RAM. This would be my first Mac by the way.

If you want up upgrade to 16GB, it shouldn't matter to you what it comes with from the factory floor. In fact, go for the lowest spec to save you money
 
Because they probably have tons of parts to build new pros leaving the need to dump a lot of inventory. At this point I'm 99.9% certain the Mac Pro is dead!

The one thing that doesn't ring true though is that when Apple killed off the XServe, they not only told people months before they actually stopped selling it that they were going to stop selling it, but it was removed from the lineup on the Apple Store front page long before it was actually discontinued. It doesn't seem to make sense that Apple would put the Mac Pro on the front page of the Apple store alongside all the other new Macs if they were planning on dropping that too.

I imagine we won't get another Mac Pro in the same style that has gone before, but i really can't see them dropping it entirely. But then again it wouldn't surprise me if they just dropped it entirely because Apple have pulled some odd turns when it comes to the professional market in the last couple of years.
 
This is going to be somewhat of an improvement over my Macbook (Late 2006):)
Geekbench score: 1735

New Imac will definitely satisfy my needs, but it has to hurry the hell up.
Macbook soon to be giving it's last breath.

Your still "lucky":rolleyes:

My Geekbench score is : 842 :eek:
Powerbook G4 15" 1.67 Ghz
 
I hope these are announced at WWDC. Would be the perfect one more thing st the end of Schiller's keynote.
 
If those are the benchmark scores Im not really feeling new mac envy, there not much more than what my MBP gets. I'm sure that'll change in a few years haha. But I am excited to see if they make a new unibody design. Hopefully the new Sandy Bridges delivery these results and is better on battery life. Thats most important!

It is an increase of 17 percent. Imagine your current salary, and imagine your boss telling you starting tomorrow you will get 17 percent more. Wouldn't you jump for joy at the huge jump?
 
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