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If I can, I will hold with my 2014 mini until the M3 Mac mini. Ideally, the M3 Pro, because it is a long term purchase and I won’t be getting less than 16GB of RAM.

Let’s hope inflation doesn’t affect the price too much until then.
 
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MacPro is the last product category missing Apple Silicon.
A new MacMini with M1Pro isn‘t a new product because it already has AppleSilicon.
MacMini and MacPro today are the only product category which still got Intel Models.
I think Apple will first fade out these models before getting the rest to newer CPUs
 
I would like to see a new Mac Mini soon.
Things I would like it to have.
Starting with 16GB of RAM and higher limit for upgrade.
Starting with 512GB of SSD etc.
A new CPU would be fine even if it is the same speed as the M1, as long as it has some hardware support for encoding/decoding that is part of the M1 Pro and Max. Like even half of what is on the Pro, I am fine with that.
New system design would be great if there are at least new colors (think of the original iMac or even the latest iMacs), even more so if they are translucent. Imagine a mini with deep orange base and the top being transluscent as the original iMacs....mmmmmm
 
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And it will eventually come. But now, as a perfect marketing, people waiting for this product are pushed to pay more and buy the Mac Studio. It gives Apple another profit increase.

Yep, I was hoping to upgrade from my 2012 21” iMac but the 24” just doesn’t cut it

It’s £1450 for the mid spec 24” iMac (because two thunderbolt ports on the base is a joke) - double the ram and add 1TB and it cost more than the base spec Studio ?! It’s mental
 
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Really curious to see what they do with the Mini. The 2011 model I own has ages pretty well design-wise, but I’m sure they could make one that is no bigger than some travel docks now. Especially if they remove the large fan, which they may do now that they have the Studio line to differentiate from.
 
m2? it kinda hard and impossible . For sure apple want to max their investment . If m2 , what the point buying studio ? even m1 in ipad now .
Because a base M2 is never going to come close the matching the horsepower of an M1 Pro or Ultra.

And Macs and iPads are different markets.
 
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Because a base M2 is never going to come close the matching the horsepower of an M1 Pro

That might depend on the fine print:
A full M2 might come pretty close in some tasks to the binned down M1Pro.

All pretty pointless as we don't know how many M2 designs they will make. For M1 it is 3 (Ultra is not a design of it's own) with some gaps will by binned down versions.

The could cut that down too 2 with heavier binning, or the yields could be so good that it might make more sense to do 4 designs and sell everyone the full version of those chips.
 
I have a feeling, that the Mac mini wont get any Pro version of the M CPUs. At least not for the foreseable future.
And there will also be a limitation in RAM. Maybe they will raise it to 32 GB in the following year or two, but that is.

There will be two powerhouses: one will be the Mac Studio and the other the upcomming Mac Pro with Apple Silicon.

And yet, if you go into the Apple store right now there are 3 Mac minis for sale. At the lower (price) end, both configs of M1. At the higher (price) end, an Intel chip from about 2019 or so. I'm doubting that M2 will be enough of an architecture upgrade to position it as the higher (price) end of a M1 (2 variants) plus a M2 Mac Mini. So what replaces that Intel Mac Mini?

My guess: Mac Mini M1 or M2 "pro" (starting) priced at about $1499 or so.

At the top of the Mac Mini heap right now, there is a "loaded" Intel Mac Mini at $2999. I suspect a M1/M2 PRO Mac Mini config easily hits at least a $2999 price. Why wouldn't such a buyer go Studio instead? Maybe they simply like Mini better? Why doesn't a 14" MBpro buyer go 16" instead? Maybe they just like 14?"

Or Apple could just quietly discontinue the Intel Mac Mini... but I'd bet on PRO much more than I would bet on that.
 
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Finally. It's about time for a new Mac mini. WWDC? Fall event?

If I can, I will hold with my 2014 mini until the M3 Mac mini. Ideally, the M3 Pro, because it is a long term purchase and I won’t be getting less than 16GB of RAM.
I have 2014 Mac mini too. I wanna buy this year though. I bought my 2014 last year for cheap, just as a stop gap since I started running into problems with my 2007 Mac Pro.

Whatever the new Mac mini is, besides 32 GB (not for me, but for those who need it), I really hope it gets more ports too, although I'm not optimistic about the ports if 'just' M2.

My understanding from the recent peek performance event was that the last M1 based product to come would be the Mac Pro to complete the Apple Silicon transition.

Then the M2 cycle would begin after the Mac Pro unveiling around WWDC.
Mac Pro will likely not be M1 series based. Apple already said M1 Ultra is the last M1 Series chip, and the chip nerds believe a dual M1 Ultra machine would be at worst impossible and at best half-assed, due to design limitations in the architecture.
 
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Finally. It's about time for a new Mac mini. WWDC? Fall event?


I have 2014 Mac mini too. I wanna buy this year though. I bought my 2014 last year for cheap, just as a stop gap since I started running into problems with my 2007 Mac Pro.

Whatever the new Mac mini is, besides 32 GB, I really hope it gets more ports too, although I'm not optimistic about the ports if 'just' M2.


Mac Pro will likely not be M1 series based. Apple already said M1 Ultra is the last M1 Series chip, and the chip nerds believe it would be at worst not possible and at best half-assed to create a dual M1 Ultra machine, due to design limitations in the architecture.
3 monitors on the M2 mini would be nice as well.
 
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Mac Pro will likely not be M1 series based.

If the MPro retains upgradable RAM and proper PCIe expansion that would be enough to make it no part of the M series chips even if was still using the same cores found in M1/A14.
 
Gurman said that is sure multiple macs are coming at WWDC
He said Macbook air M2...but this could be the new mac mini M2...or maybe both
 
If the MPro retains upgradable RAM and proper PCIe expansion that would be enough to make it no part of the M series chips even if was still using the same cores found in M1/A14.
Sure, but that would be a very, very different chip design.

Gurman said that is sure multiple macs are coming at WWDC
He said Macbook air M2...but this could be the new mac mini M2...or maybe both
I'm still wondering if a new MacBook Air might be M1 (as Ming Chi-Kuo suggested).
 
Sure, but that would be a very, very different chip design.

Which was my point. Such a MPro-SoC might be based on the IP in A14/15/16&M1/2/3 but still wouldn't be called Axx or Mxx.

I'm still wondering if a new MacBook Air might be M1.

If they wanted to place it even lower than it is now, maybe. I'd rather guess that they might keep the M1 around with the price slashed by 100$. Just like they tend to do with last years iPhones.
 
Mac mini rumor #87. They kind of slowed down after they were all wrong for the recent event.
This is more than just rumour though. It's a reference to an actual unreleased Mac mini in Apple's own OS.


Which was my point. Such a MPro-SoC might be based on the IP in A14/15/16&M1/2/3 but still wouldn't be called Axx or Mxx.
Yeah, but my point was that saying that it's based on that IP doesn't tell us that much. Hell, to a certain extent, one might even argue that M2 is based on M1 IP.

Anyhow, if we're going to talk about the cores this way, I am wondering if the Mac Pro chip could represent a sort of M1.5 type core.
 
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yeah, I’m still not on the M2 bandwagon. I don’t see why they would need to move to the next version already.

M1 is 1.5 years old right now, will be approaching 2 years old this fall. It’s very much time for a new generation. One of the main purposes of Apple making its own Silicon is to have quick upgrade periods, and not be stuck waiting an extra year+ on Intel delays. Future generations upgrade cycle will probably move faster than the M1 generation has. 1-1.5 year upgrade cycles.
 
I'm wondering which chip they'll put into the updated iMac 27 inch (or bigger).

At this point, a good guess would be that it will debut when the M2 Pro and Max are released. Seems late in the game for M1 generation to release it, unless it happens soon. *MAYBE* Studio Display is a good sign of it coming sooner, but seems like it will be a while.
 
Because a base M2 is never going to come close the matching the horsepower of an M1 Pro or Ultra.
Actually, as number of CPU cores is rumored to stay the same, M2 would likely bring better single core performance. Which basically means, single core performance would be better then any of the M1 chips, including Ultra. Which would be super... weird. Multi-core performance is of course a completely different story.
 
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