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Upcoming 13-Inch MacBook Pro Models to Use Intel's 10th-Generation Ice Lake Chips

I'm hoping they:

- Make it 13" with the same footprint of a macbook (smaller bezels)
- Kick the touchbar to the curb
- Give it a large battery
- use 32GB lpddr4 (DDR4 prices have halved in the last couple of years!)

- I also think I'd prefer the 15w or 9w icelake - maybe put that in a macbook air?

If they don't deliver, I'll probably get a dell xps 13 developer edition


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Steve121178 said:
It won't be 'affordable'. Any Mac will remain priced in the high-end premium category.
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I'm not so sure - I'd hope the powers at Apple see an issue with their losing market share of PC shipments. They need to keep it reasonable or else customers will bail. Plus, they've got the added ding to their reputation of keyboard quality problems and hubris of ignoring those keyboard quality problems.

I was in Costco the other day - and the Apple tables were empty, but there was a crowd of people around the surfaces...

I'm just sayin...
 
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Malus120 said:
Ugh. No.
We could have up to 8C/16T and a better iGPU with AMD Zen 2/Vega based Reinor.... or we can have rewarmed Skylake 4C/8T on 10nm with a better, but still slower than AMD iGPU...
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It might already be decided in the short term, but this bodes well for the longer term. Either Apple makes a switch, or their competitors will get too compelling...
 
Intel is years behind. "A tenth generation is not expected in the 16" as 'there is no appropriate model'
 
dgdosen said:
I'm hoping they:

- Make it 13" with the same footprint of a macbook (smaller bezels)
- Kick the touchbar to the curb
- Give it a large battery
- use 32GB lpddr4 (DDR4 prices have halved in the last couple of years!)

- I also think I'd prefer the 15w or 9w icelake - maybe put that in a macbook air?

If they don't deliver, I'll probably get a dell xps 13 developer edition


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I'm not so sure - I'd hope the powers at Apple see an issue with their losing market share of PC shipments. They need to keep it reasonable or else customers will bail. Plus, they've got the added ding to their reputation of keyboard quality problems and hubris of ignoring those keyboard quality problems.

I was in Costco the other day - and the Apple tables were empty, but there was a crowd of people around the surfaces...

I'm just sayin...
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- 14'
- TB is great
- large battery in footprint of a macbook? LOL
- lpddr4? ask Intel why it was't possible.

Just buy XPS and go away.

"there was a crowd of people around the surfaces..."
LOL ;)
 
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Steve121178 said:
It will be Intel 10th gen CPU's, Intel i7-1068NG7 and i5-1030NG4 options, which is great.
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I mean yeah if I all I was looking for was 10~15% more CPU performance than I got in 2018 then sure its "great." The GPU bump is much nicer at 30%, but again not exactly revelatory, and honestly not very impressive when you consider the 18+ month gap.
Again, maybe it'll have all day battery life or something else that makes it amazing (or maybe Apple will just do the sensible thing and go AMD), and even if it doesn't your welcome to spend your money on it, but I sure as hell wont.

dgdosen said:
It might already be decided in the short term, but this bodes well for the longer term. Either Apple makes a switch, or their competitors will get too compelling...
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AMD's had Intel on the back foot with Zen since 2017 and Apple seems to have a pretty good relationship with AMD (as their sole GPU supplier), so its not like they wouldn't have been privy to how much better Renior was looking than Ice-Lake well in advance. If Apple didn't see this coming they either weren't paying attention or just don't care. Again, maybe there's something we're not seeing yet, or maybe this is all just BS (hopefully). Also, Apple doesn't really seem to be bothered by competitive pressure in the notebook space. Just look at the MacBook Air; specs may not be everything but its pretty embarrassing what they're selling for that price
 
I don't understand how the new 4.1Ghz CPU is going to be faster than last years 4.7Ghz i7 option That is in the current 13 inch. Can someone please explain...
 
nicho said:
If the screen is 14 foot like you wrote, the battery could be enormous.

LOL
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No, I didn't write it. Do not combine these points. These are my answers to individual proposals on the list that are mutually exclusive.
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MacInDawg said:
Apple, stop using Intel chips! Use AMD to match your GPUs, or just finally come out with your own chips.
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AMD chips for laptops are crap.
 
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XXPP said:
No, I didn't write it. Do not combine these points. These are my answers to individual proposals on the list that are mutually exclusive.
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' = foot. " = inch.

Yes, you did write it. Why you'd want a laptop the size of a bed is beyond me.
 
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nicho said:
' = foot. " = inch.

Yes, you did write it. Why you'd want a laptop the size of a bed is beyond me.
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Look again at what I answer (quote) instead of writing nonsense. I answered individual points. I really think you know exactly what's going on, but you decided to be a troll.
In my country, 14 '- this is inch. I don't know why manufacturers still use this stupid measure. Civilized people use the SI system.
 
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Vjosullivan said:
Waiting to see if a rumoured future <insert device here> is going to be better than the currently available <and here> is a mug's game. Just get the best <here, too> that you can justify and afford, use it and be happy.
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My mug only likes to play beer pong.
 
It's great to see the new keyboard coming out. The 10th gen intel cpu's look pretty boring though.

10th gen = small cpu bump, hardly anything
11th gen (tiger lake) = xe graphics at 2x performance, wifi-6, av1 hardware deciding
Golden cove (early 2021) = allegedly a huge +20% or more performance boost

Sooooo buy now for the keyboard, hang out longer if you want bigger changes.
 
XXPP said:
Look again at what I answer (quote) instead of writing nonsense. I answered individual points. I really think you know exactly what's going on, but you decided to be a troll.
In my country, 14 '- this is inch. I don't know why manufacturers still use this stupid measure. Civilized people use the SI system.
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It's because of Celsius. Celsius is stupid, more imprecise than Fahrenheit, and arbitrarily pegged to water instead of to the human body. If you guys would get rid of Celsius, we will agree to adopt meters, but we also insist on keeping mils, because otherwise chip designers will get confused.
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ls1dreams said:
Golden cove (early 2021) = allegedly a huge +20% or more performance boost
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yeah. allegedly. And good luck with early 2021 given intel's execution the last several years.
 
XXPP said:
Look again at what I answer (quote) instead of writing nonsense. I answered individual points. I really think you know exactly what's going on, but you decided to be a troll.
In my country, 14 '- this is inch. I don't know why manufacturers still use this stupid measure. Civilized people use the SI system.
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Being "a troll" I decided to investigate your claims that ' means an inch. In not a single one of the many countries in which Apple operates a website does Apple use a symbol other than " to represent inches. I checked them. Every single on of them. ' means feet, internationally. https://practicaltypography.com/foot-and-inch-marks.html

There are two things to consider:

1) it's ridiculous to claim you were answering individual points and they are mutual exclusive about one single machine. It's one MacBook Pro, not 3.

2) it was a joke. if you didn't understand it, move on.
 
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I don't care if you shoe-horn a Pentium D in there and turn the Esc fake key into a heart rate sensor so it only works if your are really really angry. Just give me a keyboard.
 
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