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ryanwarsaw said:
If $10,000 represents more than 5% of your annual income then you probably are not the target. If you are a pro you can claim it on your income tax assuming you are American.
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It sounds like you're saying it's a $10,000 toy for people making over $200,000/year. That is just silly and few people in that income range are stupid enough to blow 5% of their pay on a desktop computer toy. If that's not what you meant, I apologize, but it sure sounds like that's what you're saying.

"Pro" in this context clearly means we're talking about using it as a tool for our vocation. And it's not hard to reach $200,000 as the top-line even in a small sole proprietorship. But businesses that are stupid enough to spend that much of their capital on a tool that is objectively no better than a tool at 1/5th the price don't last very long.
 
I'm looking forward to this year. I'm due for a new Watch; I'm interested in what they'll do for the S5.

I'm also ready to jump to a notch phone, so I'm hoping the XI comes with more than just camera improvements and a smaller notch.

Interested in the display as well.
 
e1me5 said:
Running on a Mac is much cheaper than on a PC. All the apps I bought 6 years ago for pennies, still function now without paying any monthly subscriptions. PC is a no go in terms of workload, workflow, networking and it will cost 3 times more in the long run. The needed upgrades are a 4k capable GPU and fast I/O. CPU is ok, SSD might only improve boot time as I see it. A new MP with all the latest tech and ports is a much better way to spend money on.
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I don't know where you are buying your PC's from but mine have always been considerably cheaper than the equivalent Mac, and the apps I use with the exception of Adobe are perpetual licenses that run on both platforms because I didn't buy them from the App store.

I get the PC is a no go in terms of workflow, but workload and networking? Really? I have more networking options on the PC, much more and as for workload PC's generally speaking are much faster.
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ryanwarsaw said:
If $10,000 represents more than 5% of your annual income then you probably are not the target. If you are a pro you can claim it on your income tax assuming you are American.
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In the UK you can claim it against your corp tax too. Still need the cash to do it in the first place, but agreed for business users it's a possibility and you would expect to depreciate it over 3-5 years and possibly replace it a year or two after.
 
Plutonius said:
I predict that the modular Mac Pro will be easily upgraded only with Apple supplied modules.

Another prediction I'm confident in is that the modular Mac Pro will be very expensive.
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UNFORTUNATELY I AGREE! The fact that Apple has been trumpeting it's workflow consultants, abandoning nVidia, Quicktime support at the OS level, not supporting 3rd party codecs in AV Foundation tells me that APPLE is positioning itself as a boutique build to solution player. They are not interested in providing generic upgradeable power machines. They see the continued utility of cheesegrater Mac Pros as a problem to be avoided at all costs. It does not help their bottom line to offer another machine that will have an almost 10 year service life.
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e1me5 said:
Running on a Mac is much cheaper than on a PC. All the apps I bought 6 years ago for pennies, still function now without paying any monthly subscriptions. PC is a no go in terms of workload, workflow, networking and it will cost 3 times more in the long run. The needed upgrades are a 4k capable GPU and fast I/O. CPU is ok, SSD might only improve boot time as I see it. A new MP with all the latest tech and ports is a much better way to spend money on.
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You are joking right? How many of those 6 year old apps will work past mojave? On what basis do you come up with that 3x cost? Any PC you buy today will be upgrade able multiple ways not constrained to Apple only parts or compatibility limitations!
 
Tesix2 said:
iMac will get processor and hard-drive improvements. This will be announced as ground-breaking. The price will go up.
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I actually don't think so. An i9 equipped iMac with decent graphics card could outperform an 8-10 core iMac pro on some tasks and be insignificantly worse on others. So I don't see a real processor upgrade since it would steal iMac Pro sales. The only way I see a real iMac processor upgrade is IF the iMac Pro is abandoned IF a new Mac Pro comes along.
 
Fuzzy Dunlop said:
The only thing I expect from Apple is disappointment. It's a lot easier that way.
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I get what your saying for sure, and all of us what new and innovative stuff out of Apple, but keep the faith. Apple’s simply to big of a company to continue forever on the slow mo pace. I just think there is to much at stake for them not to start dropping some big surprises over the upcoming few years. At some point things will start dropping again, they better for Apple sake....
 
ThisBougieLife said:
Hopefully a redesigned iMac is forthcoming.

At this point, that is what I would like to see the most.
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Well they were just refreshed a few months ago, and iMac seems to be on a two year upgrade cycle. Yes, the current design is somewhat stale, and a new design would be welcome. But I just don’t see that reduced bezels on a desktop is a priority for Apple, otherwise they probably would have already addressed it. It just isn’t that big a deal, at least compared to handheld devices like iPhone/iPad.

I think the MacBook Pro is more likely to be next on the agenda, ideally with 14.5/16.5” displays in the same footprint as the current 13/15”. I’d also like to see a 14” MacBook as close to the 12 inch’s 2lb weight as possible.

Just my $0.02.
 
True. The demand for frequent updates is not as strong for the iMac as it is for the MacBook Pro.

But reduced bezels aren't all I'd like to see. For one, the iMac is the only Mac that still uses spinning drives and is thus the only Mac that does not have a T2 chip. (Also hoping for upgraded webcam and cooling system). There just seems to be a lot they could still do with it.
 
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maxfm said:
We're in year three with these crappy keyboards and the pointless touch bar. Do we really think Apple's going to continue with these crippled pro notebooks for another year? I'm at a point where I've had to buy an external keyboard and mouse along with a monitor so I don't have to deal with the keyboard when I'm home.
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I replaced my MacBook 12" (2018) with a used MacBook Air 11.5" (2015) due to the crappy keyboard which not only has bad tactile feedback, but also makes terrible noise that disturbs other people (room mates, co-workers, other passengers, …).

Also discovered that battery of the old MacBook Air lasts much longer than the MacBook 2018, maybe due to the non-retina display?
 
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Just sold my old MBP Pro 2010, still for decent money. Still worked fine but has become too slow for my kind of work.

And on Friday I bought MBP 15" 2,5 GHz Intel Core i7, 16GB Ram 500GB SSD, model 2015 - but manufactured actually in January 2017. Still under AppleCare+ until May 2020. Came in the original package.

This laptop is in pristine condition - I mean virtually new, really. It's got an excellent keyboard, perfect display, no stupid TouchBar and all the ports I need. Battery cycle count 94.

The new MBP 2019 15" is $3500 here in Czech Republic.

I've paid 1100 bucks for mine (the price for the old one calculated in).

Compare.

I couldn't be happier.

Well, see you in 5 years, Apple. Maybe later.
 
I don't know what to do. When are people speculating the new iPad Pro will come out now? I was planning on one this fall, but that now seems unlikely. I am OK waiting for the new one to come out, but if it's going to be a year, I don't want to wait that long and I'll just buy an old model. Thoughts?
 
urbanslaughter1997 said:
I don't know what to do. When are people speculating the new iPad Pro will come out now? I was planning on one this fall, but that now seems unlikely. I am OK waiting for the new one to come out, but if it's going to be a year, I don't want to wait that long and I'll just buy an old model. Thoughts?
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If you think of this as a short term purchase and one that can be traded-in/upgraded as needed, then timing becomes less of an issue. If you think having the current one will benefit your life in some way, get it. You can always upgrade to the newer one if it's released. In fact, it will give you some breathing room to wait for reviews and to see if it's worth upgrading. Of course, if there's something you don't like about the current gen, then it's better not to get it at all.
 
triton100 said:
2019? Is this sarcasm or do you really think they will announce something with 2 weeks left of the year
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Yeah, I can see why that’s confusing. I’m referring to the actual article title about ‘what we will see beyond/and into 2020’, even though the OP of this post was referring to 2019. More or less, what’s coming for 2020.
 
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The MacRumors guide to upcoming products is designed to provide an overview of everything that we're expecting to see from Apple, both in the near and more distant future. Dates listed are not always concrete, but are based on the most recent rumors and information that we have.

We're updating the guide on a regular basis, so it will be the go to place to see every Apple product that's on the horizon at a glance. For more detail on the rumors we've heard about each upcoming item, make sure to click on the links to visit our roundups.

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Still Expected in 2019
  • Mac Pro - Apple is working on a high-end high-throughput modular Mac Pro for its pro user base, which was shown off at WWDC. The new machine features Xeon chips with up to 28 cores, up to 1.5TB RAM, up to 2 Radeon Pro II Duo GPUs (four GPUs total), a new lattice design for thermal regulation, and eight PCIe expansion slots. The new Mac Pro starts at $5,999, and it's launching in December.
  • Apple Pro Display XDR - Apple is planning to release the Apple Pro Display XDR, a professional 32-inch 6K display with a 6016 x 3384 resolution and a $4,999 price tag, which does not include a stand, which is priced at an additional $999.
Coming in Early 2020
  • 2020 iPad Pro - The 3D camera feature coming to the 2020 iPhones might show up in 2020 iPad Pro models first. The camera will let 3D models be captured using the iPad Pro's camera and then edited with Apple Pencil. Rumors suggest this new iPad Pro could be released in the first half of 2020.
  • "iPhone SE 2": Apple is working on a low cost 4.7-inch device that's said to feature an A13 processor and an iPhone 8-style design with a Touch ID Home button and a single-lens rear camera. Pricing on the new iPhone could start at $399, and despite the "iPhone SE 2" name it's been referred to in rumors, this device is likely to be more similar to an iPhone 8 than the original iPhone SE. Rumors suggest the new 4.7-inch iPhone will be launching during the first half of 2020.
Coming in Mid-2020
  • iOS and iPadOS 14 - iOS and iPadOS 14 are expected to be unveiled at Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference, which is held in June. We don't know what to expect yet.
  • watchOS 7 - watchOS 7 is expected to be unveiled at Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference, which is held in June. watchOS 7 could include sleep tracking capabilities for new 2020 Apple Watch models.
  • tvOS 14 - tvOS 14 is expected to be unveiled at Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference, which is held in June. We don't know what to expect yet.
  • macOS 10.16 - macOS 10.16 is expected to be unveiled at Apple's annual Worldwide Developers Conference, which is held in June. We don't know what to expect yet.
Coming in Fall 2020
  • iPhone 12 - Apple's 2020 iPhones will introduce some exciting improvements, based on rumors. 5G wireless chips for much faster cellular speeds are said to be coming, plus Apple is going to add a laser-powered time-of-flight 3D rear camera for significant improvements to AR experiences. We could also get an all OLED lineup, with Apple finally doing away with LCD iPhones. We're expecting a 5.4-inch iPhone, a 6.7-inch iPhone, and a 6.1-inch iPhone, with the latter device to be a lower-cost option like the iPhone 11 and the former two devices to be higher-end iPhones like the 11 Pro and Pro Max.
  • Apple Watch Series 6 - The next-generation Apple Watch expected in 2020 is said to feature faster performance, better water resistance, and improved wireless transmission for faster WiFi and cellular speeds. A sleep tracking app may also be included, allowing for sleep tracking capabilities.
Products With Unknown Release Dates
  • Apple TV Set-Top Box - Code found in an internal build of iOS 13 references a new Apple TV 11,1 model, suggesting Apple is working on an updated Apple TV. Little is known about the new device, but it could feature an A12 processor. There's no word on when we can expect a release, but it could come at any time given the hints found in iOS 13.
  • AirTags - Apple in iOS 13 introduced a new Find My feature that lets iOS and macOS devices be tracked even without a data connection by taking advantage of Bluetooth, and rumors suggest Apple could also expand this into a Tile-like Bluetooth tag that could be attached to any item. It may feature AR support for locating an item in a room and leashing to alert you when an item being tracked moves too far from an iPhone. It's not clear when such a product might launch, but there are already signs in multiple versions of iOS 13.
  • Mac With Apple-Made Chip - Rumors suggest Apple is planning to transition from Intel chips to its own custom-made Mac chips as early as 2020, so we could see the first Mac with a custom chip at some point during the year. Apple already makes its A-series chips for iPhones and iPads and has added custom T2 chips to a number of Macs.
Beyond 2020
  • AR Smart Glasses - Apple is working on augmented reality smart glasses that could come at some point in the next few years. The glasses are said to feature a dedicated display, built-in processor, and an "rOS" or reality operating system. Input will be via touch panels, voice activation, and head gestures, and it's said to support applications ranging from mapping to texting. The first rumors suggested Apple's AR glasses would come in 2020, but now it's sounding like the product could see a release sometime between 2021 and 2022.
  • Apple Car - There have been a lot of twists and turns in the saga of Apple's electric car development, but reliable Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo believes Apple is still planning on a full autonomous vehicle rather than just an autonomous car software offering, with a launch to happen between 2023 and 2025.
2019 Product Refreshes and Announcements So Far

Apple has released a number of updated products in 2019, with a list of the new and refreshed devices below, along with a link to a roundup where you can learn more information about each one.
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Article Link: Upcoming Apple Products Guide: Everything We Expect to See in 2020 and Beyond
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How about March 2020 ipad Mini 6 with borderless screen and facial recognition.
 
WLS said:
How about March 2020 ipad Mini 6 with borderless screen and facial recognition.
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I would love an iPad mini Pro. Unfortunately, I don’t think there’s enough demand for a third iPad Pro model. The mini isn’t that popular even at $399. But it would be a nice piece of gear. Who knows, maybe someday 🤞
 
All I'm really waiting for is Apple TV. My iphone 8 plus battery is below 80 per cent health - tempted to get a new phone in the fall but the prices in Canada are beyond ridiculous.
 
TVreporter said:
All I'm really waiting for is Apple TV. My iphone 8 plus battery is below 80 per cent health - tempted to get a new phone in the fall but the prices in Canada are beyond ridiculous.
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Just cross the border and buy at the first Apple Store you find in the States. If you‘re in Quebec you can cross into Vermont and get it sales tax free.
 
TVreporter said:
All I'm really waiting for is Apple TV. My iphone 8 plus battery is below 80 per cent health - tempted to get a new phone in the fall but the prices in Canada are beyond ridiculous.
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Prices in Canada are in Canadian dollars. You have to convert to US dollars before you can compare prices.

It’s amazing how many people don’t understand this.
 
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