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Upcoming Apple TV Could Support 120Hz Refresh Rate According to tvOS 14.5 Beta Code
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I'm quite curious to see what would happen if Apple decided to turn the Apple TV into a PS5/XSX competitor with some sort of M1X chip, I don't think it will happen but I'd love to see it.
As an electronic engineer who follows chip development and manufacturing very closely the M1 truly blew me away. I can only imagine how powerful it would be compared to Zen 3 and whatever crap Intel has when gaming if the game was built ground up for it. x86 has backwards compatibility but it's beginning to look more and more like a hindrance, meanwhile Apple is focused on an uArch that's only 10 years old vs x86 which is over four decades old.
Looking forward to Apple's armV9 chips built on the latest and greatest TSMC process. Seeing as the A14 uses ARMv8.5-A which was announced in 2018 it stands to reason we will see armV9 chips built on TSMC's n3 process in 2023.
As an electronic engineer who follows chip development and manufacturing very closely the M1 truly blew me away. I can only imagine how powerful it would be compared to Zen 3 and whatever crap Intel has when gaming if the game was built ground up for it. x86 has backwards compatibility but it's beginning to look more and more like a hindrance, meanwhile Apple is focused on an uArch that's only 10 years old vs x86 which is over four decades old.
Looking forward to Apple's armV9 chips built on the latest and greatest TSMC process. Seeing as the A14 uses ARMv8.5-A which was announced in 2018 it stands to reason we will see armV9 chips built on TSMC's n3 process in 2023.
Search the model number and check the manufacturers spec sheet.
Apple TV 6th Gen Prices:
16 GB model: $399
32 GB model: $499
64 GB model: $599
256 GB model: $799
512 GB model: $999
1 TB model: $1399
2 TB model: $1999
….
Or you could just get an Xbox series X 1 TB for $499. I’d rather go that route or PS5.
16 GB model: $399
32 GB model: $499
64 GB model: $599
256 GB model: $799
512 GB model: $999
1 TB model: $1399
2 TB model: $1999
….
Or you could just get an Xbox series X 1 TB for $499. I’d rather go that route or PS5.
It would be a nice surprise if the little Apple TV device becomes a good gaming device able to run games like the latest Grand Theft Auto, The Last of Us, Red Dead Redemption, etc..
I don’t think Apple will be able to compete with the consoles. Microsoft and Sony notoriously sell their consoles at a loss. Apple will never do this. The 6th Apple TV with features and power that equals the CPU/GPU/SSD and decode; other functions would cost well over $500 in parts alone. Apple would have to sell it for what. $1200? Gamers will never buy it. Microsoft and Sony both held off on announcing the price of the Series X and PS5 because they didn’t want to be the more expensive one, like what with happened with the Xbox One and PS4. Sony and Microsoft are fiercely competitive in the console space and Apple will never sell a product at a loss.
This may be why Apple hasn’t really entered the living room gaming market yet. (ATV4/5 is not a gaming console, in my humble opinion.)
Since 120 is common on all new TVs and some are upscaled to 240Hz nothing about this is impressive other than it must support it or the product is obsolete before it is even released.
Apple are always late to the party then end up owning the whole thing , if I was Sony and Ms i'd be very worried now
I've got a ps5 and tbh its a big meh , had the x box and sent it back after a week of hdmi problems , while my atv 4k just purrs away silently , totally reliable , never an issue ( apart from that remote )
If Apple really do it properly this time , they will be unstoppable
I've got a ps5 and tbh its a big meh , had the x box and sent it back after a week of hdmi problems , while my atv 4k just purrs away silently , totally reliable , never an issue ( apart from that remote )
If Apple really do it properly this time , they will be unstoppable
If you don’t know they probably don’t. Still only a few TVs that do. A few 2020 and more 2021 models.
Can I interest you in a curved screen? Or perhaps a 3D TV? 🤣 As they said in 2011, it's "the future of television"!
Pretty sure hdmi 2.1 just started rolling out within the last year in TVs, so if your set is older, it’s a good bet it is 2.0
I’m so tired of getting excited about Apple TV rumors. As the Macalope says, “I’ll believe it when I see it. Maybe not even then.”
Sounds awesome for gaming, but it's one of those things where if you're loyal to how a director wants to portray their film, 120Hz won't matter much. Still should be interesting if you're interested in "Soap Opera Effect".
$99 ATV would sell like hotcakes.
A couple of good points here but if Apple is using their own chip designs, then they're not buying from AMD or Intel so perhaps they wouldn't have to sell the hardware at a loss. I think the biggest gain for apple would be to continue and add to their services revenue through Apple Arcade. I think they'd still have to buy a couple of studios and perhaps develop some compelling cutting edge technology to compete with AAA consoles. You'd think their ongoing battle with Epic would be motivation itself. If Unreal Engine 5 pans out, it's going to upend a lot of industries aligned with Apple's AR/VR ambitions, not to mention that gaming is a multi-billion $$ industry and growing. I almost think they have no choice if they want to keep their ecosystem intact. Rumors continue to point to major investments into gaming. I guess we'll see.
I mostly agree. I kind of think Apple has to do this to keep their ecosystem intact and I do think they could up the ante provided they buy a couple of game studios. A next generation game console by Apple would also dovetail with their AR/VR ambitions. My only quibble is that I love my PS5, although I'm coming from a PS4 slim. Probably not enough games taking advantage of the new hardware yet. I really think Apple could deliver jaw dropping performance if they were so motivated–*cough Epic. Hopefully they started working on this several years back.
The Apple TV is so good that I see no real reason to update it. It's the best streaming device out there. It's performance is lightning fast.
“Game changer” for what? Gaming? 🤣🤣🤣It won’t even register on the “gaming radar”. This little thing can’t be expected to seriously compete with dedicated gaming rigs like Xbox and PlayStation. What it may improve on is its Homekit creds. Other than that..meh.