Companies aren’t going to bring their A game due to legislation like this.
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Upcoming EU Sideloading Bill Would 'Cripple the Privacy and Security Protections' iPhone Users Expect, Says Apple
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So other companies will find the opportunity to snap it up. Greater consumer choice doesn't hurt consumers.
Or not. While I think this legislation is inevitable, like death and taxes, I don’t have to have a favorable opinion of it. But why would any large company bring technical innovation to have their ip legistlated away. They won’t.
I'm not sure having an alternative store or allowing side loading is really comparable to having their IP taken away...
Take China for example, IP rights are a mess there, and are routinely copied. Still, Apple has a flourishing market there.
Then your case is completely irrelevant, given that the EU isn't asking Apple to surrender its IP.
You’re right. It’s legislating it away, which brings me back to my original point about the eu being the best with the tech “b” game.
Then you don't know how this legislation works.
There are a lot of competitors to apple that aren't affected at all. Every phone manufacturer, every computer maker etc already fulfill every requirement and are safe.
Microsoft is barely impacted, and might be forced to allow some app to be uninstalled in windows and that's it.
Twitter is unaffected, but Facebook is. Amazon is impacted but supports the bill.
Uber is unaffected.
Netflix is unaffected.
Spotify is unaffected
Google is heavily impacted, but Android is barely impacted.
Xbox/PlayStation is unaffected.
no IP is legislated away, nothing changes when it comes to ownership. Apple have never had the ability to prevent developers from using their APIs, the only part they can do is prevent apps being sold in their store
well china quite literary steels apple's IP and uses it. EU doesn't affect apple's IP, and still Apple brings their A game to China.
the reason is they earn more money by bringing their A game
Going forward, imo, this will hurt consumers more than it will help. If you’re a tech company big enough to be a gatekeeper you’re big enough to not deploy the latest tech to the eu, imo.
Some companies already do staged rollout. You even see it in North America, albeit for different reasons.
The EU isn't trying to stifle competition, it's trying to ensure a playing field which doesn't overly benefit one party.
I've yet to see how allowing sideloading will materially change the landscape, given the data we already have.
It’s a question of ownership. Customer Ownership is strong in Eu. Corporate “ownership” is very weak
Sorry - that is a tired OLD nonsensical saying.
By that claim sideloading is the only thing that differentiates Android from iOS.
btw - which Android?
In what way will it hurt consumers? Do we have any data supporting this assertion?
Well, lucky us it doesn’t affect hardware. And if you are a big company classified as a gatekeeper, I would bet you care about profits and unless you brings the best you have, then you will stop being a gatekeeper eventually as competitors takes your customers.
So it’s great ether way
Nicely said.
This is the one aspect of the sideloading argument (from Apple’s side) that I do not understand. Perhaps if Apple put forth its’ arguments in clear concise terms with facts easily validated that the average consumer could understand and realistically weigh their point.
I don’t get Apple’s motor-boating.
So? Why should a consumer who buys a "minority share" device have fewer rights than one who buys an Apple device?
If sideloading is forced on Apple, it *must* be forced on Microsoft, Sony, and Nintendo as well.
Everything else is injustice, and proof that this is merely an Anti-Apple move, probably paid for by their competition (Epic, presumably). But corruption is hardly anything new when it comes to our governments.
With its indeed inside, it indeed is. The term computing device is by no means limited to personal computers or devices that can run Microsoft Word. Since the chips inside can "perform processing functions", are "able to store confidential information very securely" and "can perform cryptographic processing", they are indeed tiny computing devices.
What then does make one?
Let's (honestly, I promise!) recap what I did with my iPhone today:
- I called a friend
- I sent text messages to said friend over a wireless internet connection
- I bought a train ticket
- I read my Emails
- I took a photo with its camera
- I edited the photo
- ...before posting it to a popular social media platform over a wireless internet connection
- I wrote and posted an internet forum post on it and submitted it
- I used its calculator to make (simple) mathematical calculations for preparing a tax return
- I used a popular app on it for route planning and to provide driving directions to a car driver
- I watched a video on it
- I made an entry in my personal on-device calendar
- I made a text note on the device too, for later reference
- I used a translation app to translate a word I didn't know in a foreign language
- I accessed internet sites on it
- I made a payment transaction with it
- I also made a bank transfer with it
- I controlled my wireless light bulbs with it over wireless Bluetooth connection
- I uncompressed a .zip archive file on it in the "Files" app
- ...and sent its contents to a personal webserver via an SFTP connection
Would that make it a computing device then?
Even a "general purpose" computing device, maybe?
Also... can I practically (and conveniently, not only theoretically) do the same things on a gaming console?
Kind of like talking about IMSA and Honda’s ARX-05 and you pull up train tickets.
Thank you - that's the point!
Video game systems are general computing devices. They would need to be included in this -- and that will upend the cost structure of them entirely, and it's not what gamers seem to want. They want to have their cake and eat it too. They don't understand the ramifications of this proposed legislation, and how absolutely awful it is for everyone. In regards to iOS, how harmful it is to every developer that isn't a multi-billion dollar corporation.