A LOT of people want them!!!Partly because of the price- smaller iPhone should be cheaper, but also if you are a decent sized guy, maybe iPhone 11 size works for you, but how comfortable it is for kids/teens/smaller girls/shorter guys to walk around with a shovel in their hand and pocket. iPhone SE was a hit because or price and also the size.
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Upcoming Fall 2020 5.4-Inch iPhone Will Be Similar in Size to iPhone 8
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A LOT of people want them!!!Partly because of the price- smaller iPhone should be cheaper, but also if you are a decent sized guy, maybe iPhone 11 size works for you, but how comfortable it is for kids/teens/smaller girls/shorter guys to walk around with a shovel in their hand and pocket. iPhone SE was a hit because or price and also the size.
It is just me, or is "similar in size" a nearly meaningless phrase?
The size difference between an iPhone 8 and an iPhone XS is already pretty small.
A 5.4 inch iPhone with the same form factor as iPhone XS would be between an iPhone 8 and an iPhone SE. You could reasonably say it is "similar in size" to both of them.
The only meaningful question to ask is whether this rumor is insinuating larger bezels.
The size difference between an iPhone 8 and an iPhone XS is already pretty small.
A 5.4 inch iPhone with the same form factor as iPhone XS would be between an iPhone 8 and an iPhone SE. You could reasonably say it is "similar in size" to both of them.
The only meaningful question to ask is whether this rumor is insinuating larger bezels.
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I don't know if that's a fair assumption. The largest phones are the most expensive, so I think they're are quite frequently purchased by people who can afford other devices.
Personally, I have a desktop PC, ultrabook, and an iPad Air 3, but I still favour a large phone because that's the only device that I always have on me, so even though it's not my primary device for web surfing, media, or gaming, I do want the best experience for those things when it's the only device I have on me. Basically, I want the largest device that can fit comfortably in my jean front pockets, and so far even the largest iPhone can still do that.
This edited diagram is the corrected one for a screen size of 5.4". It's closer to the 8 than the SE, but you can't win 'em all.
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While they look the same size they really aren’t. The Xs is 15.3% larger by volume and 19.6% heavier than the 8. The 11 Pro is over 30% larger than the 6 was and a massive 45% heavier. There is actually about the same difference in both volume in weight between the 8 and Xs as there was between the 5s and 6! (15.8% larger and 15.2% heavier). Looks can be deceiving.
Why not go fullscreen on an iPhone SE?
Same here man! Couldn’t agree more! Living exactly in the same manner!
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The thing is that if Apple, this time around is giving two variations, for the sake of conversation 12 Pro & 12 Pro Max, they are also giving consumers 12 & 12 something to commemorate for the 6.1 variant something little smaller! So not bad, right!? They wanna please everyone. Whoever wants any size can get that, instead you all are on each other’s necks! I think it great! Personally I’ll stick to biggies!
Are we talking about weight or size? The rumor says "similar in size" and doesn't specify anything about volume or weight.
The iPhone X is only 5.2mm taller and 3.6mm wider. We are talking about an overall increase in size of around 4-5%, which is pretty small when you are talking about a device that is measured in mms.
If the previous rumors about a 5.4" iPhone (with an iPhone Xish form factor) are accurate, the iPhone 8 would be a little bigger, but still arguably "similar in size" - when compared to other models (like the SE or iPhone 11 Pro).
The point is that the word "similar" is relative. This rumor could be interpreted to agree or disagree with previous rumors, depending on how you want to understand the phrase "similar in size".
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True! But it can also come in slightly more different shape & form with full screen & Face ID to sit nicely in one of the Flagships too!
Thanks. This further makes my point. The "rumored 5.4" iPhone looks pretty "similar in size" to an iPhone 8, if you ask me.
The point being, this doesn't seem to be much different from previous rumors we've heard.
Size is Volume.
V (Size) = W x H x D
Not sure why people always ignore how thick a device is when comparing sizes and just focus on 2 dimensions.
It does. If people wanted it, it would exist... period.
The difference from 5.8” to 5.4” is a negligible downsize 👎🏻
5.1” iPhone 12 is much closer to the SE size instead of 5.4” iPhone 12 👍🏻
5.1” iPhone 12 is much closer to the SE size instead of 5.4” iPhone 12 👍🏻
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Size is Volume.
V (Size) = W x H x D
Not sure why people always ignore how thick a device is when comparing sizes and just focus on 2 dimensions.
Well, the weight of the phone has a lot more to do with the materials (glass compared to aluminum) than it does with the depth.
But also, the thickness is the least important factor to most people. the differences are fractions of mms. And the iPhone 8 and iPhone SE have very similar depth (iphone 8 with 7.3mm and iPhone SE with 7.6mm) - so with regards to this particular rumor, the difference is negligible.
Also, the iPhone 11 (8.1mm) is slightly thinner than the iPhone XR (8.3mm), so it shouldn't be a shock if 2020 iPhones are also slighly thinner, getting closer to the iPhone 8. Again, if that is what is being discussed in this rumor, it is hardly noteworthy.
But more to the point, if the iPhone 11 form factor is a guide, a 5.4" iPhone should be between 67-68mm wide and probably around 134mm tall. So, ever so slightly smaller than an iPhone 8... which has basically been the rumor all along.
The point I'm trying to make is that I don't think this rumor is particularly noteworthy. It fits pretty closely with the other rumors we've heard about a 5.4" iPhone. It's smaller than what is currently available, but not quite as small as an iPhone SE.
I'd be curious to know from people who are fans of the SE (like me) how they rank the following advantages it has in terms of how important each are for them:
1) One-handed usability
2) Pocketable size
3) Price
For me, that's how I'd rank those three. Price is a non-factor, and I'd happily pay a premium for a "Pro" level smaller phone.
I could go back to the 6/7/8 size, but it would still be a step down in terms of one-handed usability, which leads to a separate discussion which I've brought up a couple of times in the past:
They could do a better job of improving one-handed usability on even the larger phones. When they first increased the size of the phones, they introduced reachability, which was/is pretty awful. What they really need to do is rethink the UI altogether. A simple tweak would be to introduce UI guidelines (which they'd follow with the all of the built-in apps) which could discourage placing tappable UI elements towards the top of the screen. A better approach would be a completely rethought-out UI experience which made everything easy to do without needing to stretch your thumb to the limits.
I've heard a lot of people claim that they can use the larger phones "just fine" with one hand, but I call BS on that. I'm 6'2" and consider my fingers to be in proportion to my body size, so I'd imagine that my fingers (and thumb) are probably longer than most people's. Yet, attempting to hold the phone in one hand and swipe or tap on elements in all corners of the screen results in the phone often teetering and being close to getting dropped. The only way you can really do it is by holding the phone so that the screen is pointing almost directly up at the ceiling/sky, which isn't a realistic way to hold/use the phone much of the time. On that note, another approach to improving (but not solving) the issue would be to focus more of the weight of the phone on the lower half of the phone, which might reduce some of that "teetering" when trying to use it one-handed.
1) One-handed usability
2) Pocketable size
3) Price
For me, that's how I'd rank those three. Price is a non-factor, and I'd happily pay a premium for a "Pro" level smaller phone.
I could go back to the 6/7/8 size, but it would still be a step down in terms of one-handed usability, which leads to a separate discussion which I've brought up a couple of times in the past:
They could do a better job of improving one-handed usability on even the larger phones. When they first increased the size of the phones, they introduced reachability, which was/is pretty awful. What they really need to do is rethink the UI altogether. A simple tweak would be to introduce UI guidelines (which they'd follow with the all of the built-in apps) which could discourage placing tappable UI elements towards the top of the screen. A better approach would be a completely rethought-out UI experience which made everything easy to do without needing to stretch your thumb to the limits.
I've heard a lot of people claim that they can use the larger phones "just fine" with one hand, but I call BS on that. I'm 6'2" and consider my fingers to be in proportion to my body size, so I'd imagine that my fingers (and thumb) are probably longer than most people's. Yet, attempting to hold the phone in one hand and swipe or tap on elements in all corners of the screen results in the phone often teetering and being close to getting dropped. The only way you can really do it is by holding the phone so that the screen is pointing almost directly up at the ceiling/sky, which isn't a realistic way to hold/use the phone much of the time. On that note, another approach to improving (but not solving) the issue would be to focus more of the weight of the phone on the lower half of the phone, which might reduce some of that "teetering" when trying to use it one-handed.
People obviously do want it and yet it doesn't exist.
This is true, but have there been any rumors about a 5.1" iPhone 12? The 5.4" iPhone has been the rumor all along, as far as I can tell.
I'd like a smaller phone, but based on recent history, I'm pretty pleased with the 5.4" iPhone, because it is at least a step in the right direction.
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Speaking only for myself, I'd rank them
1) Pocketable size
2) One-Handed Usability
3) Price
I use an Apple Watch for many of the various quick actions I would otherwise do on my phone, and I use an iPad for more in depth activities. So what I want in a phone is for it to be small in my pocket, and able to be used quickly and with one hand for those various activities I might need to do if my iPad isn't within arms reach.
I am still mostly happy with my iPhone SE, for these reasons - but I do wish it had smaller bezels, and it has really started to slow down in the last few months - so I'd like to continue using an iPhone in this way without having to sacrifice performance.
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I'm holding off from getting a large phone.
Apple could make a killing with a small and light form factor phone, but they are obsessed with cameras face ID, and large screens.
Give us what small handers and one handed users want, a smaller phone with edge to edge screen!
build touch id into the screen, leave out face ID.
Pleeeeeeease!
Apple could make a killing with a small and light form factor phone, but they are obsessed with cameras face ID, and large screens.
Give us what small handers and one handed users want, a smaller phone with edge to edge screen!
build touch id into the screen, leave out face ID.
Pleeeeeeease!