I still think it would be great if they call it the “SE X”. Hardeeharhar!
It would be hard to beat
I still think it would be great if they call it the “SE X”. Hardeeharhar!
Makes perfect sense. Interesting that the iPhone 11 6.1" price point from 2019 ($699) would get replaced with an iPhone 12 5.4". But then it's going to be OLED instead of LCD.So when fall rolls around the line up will likely be
iPhone 9 (?) $399 A13 64 GB LTE LCD
iPhone XR $499 A12 64 GB LTE LCD
iPhone 11 $599 A13 64 GB LTE LCD
iPhone 12, 5.4 inch $699 A14 64 GB 5G OLED
iPhone 12, 6.1 inch $799 A14 64 GB 5G OLED
iPhone 12 Pro, 6.1 inch $999 A14 128 GB 5G OLED ToF camera
iPhone 12 Pro Max, 6.7 inch $1099 A14 128 GB 5G OLED ToF camera
well first, a lot of people (including me) just don’t want Android, period. But beyond that, the phone you mentioned has a 6.4” display... that’s a total dealbreaker for a lot of iPhone SE fans (including me).Hope it doesn't come with an embarrassing near 720p display considering the upcoming $249 Moto G8 Power has 6.4" FHD+, 4GB/64GB, 5000mAh battery, mask friendly fingerprint authentication, etc.
the 7+ does, the 7 does not. I may very well upgrade from my 7 to this. The two things I want to know are 1) what’s the camera (is it the main camera from the 11? If so, thats great)? And 2) what’s the battery life? Because those are the two things I’d like to improve on my 7.Why would you upgrade from a 7 to this? The 7 has a 2x zoom. I’d buy one of these for my dad but he wants the zoom
yes I’m with you. The camera is a key detail that has not been addressed adequately. People keep saying single camera... ok that’s fine, I don’t care about ultra wide at all, but I don’t want the camera from the 8 or even the Xr. I want the wide angle lens from the 11, including night mode.If it's the iPhone 7/8 chassis with the A13 processor, the iPhone 11 camera (minus the ultra-wide) and 64 GB at $399 I will buy it ASAP.
I have no intention of buying a phone larger than the 7, couldn't care less about the other specs and will never switch back to Android.
I suspect I'm not the only one who feels that way and Apple knows it.
Exactly. I work from home now, so the days of needed the biggest phone with the best battery doesn't matter anymore. My girlfriend is basically anti modern tech too (she has a iPhone 7 and will upgrade in like two or three years) too, so I don't care about cool points. I need the best computer for my job, but the phone is now a social media posting message music podcast device. That's it. So spending $450 or $500 for a device that does all that really well... and I'm in. (bonus if the battery case for the 7 works with it) But Night mode and the wide angle is important.well first, a lot of people (including me) just don’t want Android, period. But beyond that, the phone you mentioned has a 6.4” display... that’s a total dealbreaker for a lot of iPhone SE fans (including me).
the 7+ does, the 7 does not. I may very well upgrade from my 7 to this. The two things I want to know are 1) what’s the camera (is it the main camera from the 11? If so, thats great)? And 2) what’s the battery life? Because those are the two things I’d like to improve on my 7.
yes I’m with you. The camera is a key detail that has not been addressed adequately. People keep saying single camera... ok that’s fine, I don’t care about ultra wide at all, but I don’t want the camera from the 8 or even the Xr. I want the wide angle lens from the 11, including night mode.
Two Things will sell this phone: [Price point _and_ iOS]. There’s nothing else that needs to be said about this, being that consumers don’t need to have the latest technology, especially when they want a smaller form factor.
Except for you know... physics. Sure a smaller screen usually means you can get away with a smaller battery, but nothing else scales down. Larger phone means more space for camera modules, better speakers etc...Let's hope they have the same wisdom about the Mac mini. It really needs a lower entry price without sacrificing performance. $999 in Canada is not an "entry-level computer".
Not liking the rumours of an iPhone 8 design, though. They need to listen to their customers. Flat edges is better. Miss my SE.
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There should be zero correlation between size and features, in my opinion. Smaller should not equal "less". It's just a more compact design, that's it!
Does (did) the Sony run iOS?
On the other hand, the Samsung has a craptastic processor and camera, runs android and will recieve software updates for 2 years max.
In addition, LCD doesn't suffer from OLED burn-in, traditional fingerprint sensors are still faster, and a higher-res (and probably less color accurate) screen is marginally better while using more battery.
It's all a matter of priorities, I couldn't care less about the specs you've mentioned...
It's name brand vs store brand. You buy a product from some random company who isn't upholding a reputation, and you'll probably get what you pay for. There are reputable Android phonemakers, but none like Apple. And the phones run Android, which is worth not dealing with if you've got the money to spare.I'm sure people like iPhone because they work well, I like iPhones because they work well. I just played with 180$ XIAOMI that worked very well. There are few people who I have met who can rationalize why they purchased iPhone over alternatives half as expensive.
That said I'd bet my money that more iPhones have been sold because of the Apple brand than anything else. It's "affordable" luxury to average 1st world consumer. People fail to realise that there is a whole wide world outside of their suburbs that still covets the logo. Just an educated guess from someone who travels a lot, also in developing countries: globally to more people than not the latest iPhone is a status symbol = money = power = security. There is a reason why everyone doesn't just drive a Toyota. There is a reason why almost every Android phone imitates iPhone.
"People think my 6 is an 8 at least."
Exactly my point: iPhone SE2 = iPhone 6 = no money = no power. Not to mention boring, not sexy, not exciting.
Not really, those problems are incredibly rare for any android smartphones made by Samsung.
Almost 100% chance; agreed, same models I’m considering; still using my 6s but I don’t want anything larger.I hope the screen is still 750 x 1334 for good battery life. It's either this one or the 5.4" in September for me. Goodbye XS, it was nice/awkward.
Well, I don't see which problems you mean exactly, since to me it seems all of them apply to $400 Samsung smartphones. My friend has one of those Samsung phones so I can vouch for the claims I make.
Anyways, the processor is not as fast as the fastest processor available for phones (the Apple A13). In comparison to my iPhone 7, the camera has washed out colors and the video especially is nowhere near as good. It will recieve the next android update, but the new iPhone will recieve the next 4-5 iOS updates. All AMOLED screens can get burn-in due to their very nature, and a higher res screen does make the phone drain its battery faster and perform slower.
I will also add that my friend's phone feels extremely cheap in the hand compared to an iPhone, even though it looks cool from a distance.
Apple is planning to price its rumored low-cost iPhone at $399, according to a new report out this week from Fast Company.
The site was told by an unspecified source that the iPhone will "likely" sell for $399, backing up a previous report from Apple analyst Ming-Chi Kuo who said in October that the iPhone would be available at that price point.
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iPhone SE and iPhone 8
At $399, the new low-cost iPhone will have the same starting price as the 2016 iPhone SE, which is why some people have referred to it as an "iPhone SE 2." Others have been calling it the "iPhone 9," but we don't yet know what Apple will name it.
We do know quite a bit about its specs, though, thanks to numerous leaks. The upcoming low-cost iPhone will be similar in design to the iPhone 8, with thicker top and bottom bezels and a Touch ID Home button.
It will be equipped with the same A13 chip that's available in the iPhone 11 and 11 Pro, and it is said to have 3GB RAM. To keep costs low, it will use a single-lens rear camera, though it's not known if the camera will be the same as the wide-angle camera in the iPhone 11. It could be available in 64 and 128GB size options, and colors are expected include Space Gray, Silver, and Red.
Production on the new low-cost iPhone was supposed to begin in February, but Apple's supplier factories are shut down at the current time due to the ongoing coronavirus outbreak in China. It's not clear if this will affect production plans and if the launch date of the iPhone will be delayed.
Prior rumors suggested we could see the new low-cost iPhone in the first half of 2020, perhaps in March. Apple often holds its first event of the year in March, and if there is indeed a March event in the works this year, we should be hearing about it soon.
The new low-cost iPhone is expected to be a popular iPhone upgrade option for those who are coming from an iPhone 6s or iPhone 7, as the design will be similar. It should also appeal to those who want an affordable iPhone option, those who like Touch ID, and those who prefer smaller form factors, even though it won't be as small as the iPhone SE, Apple's original low-cost iPhone.
Article Link: Upcoming Low-Cost iPhone Again Rumored to Be Priced at $399
Thanks for the reply! The car situation absolutely makes sense, however I sort of disagree about your second point. AFAIK, the dongle Apple makes is actually as good, if not better quality than the onboard DAC of previous iPhones. Here's a good reddit post where people discuss this: www.reddit.com/r/headphones/comments/bauipn/iphone_dongle_audio_quality/
And in addition, even if the audio quality is worse — is the difference that apparent when listening to music during transit etc? That is my primary use case with headphones + iPhone. If I'm at home, I'm not going to use my headphones to stream Spotify on my iPhone, I'll connect my headphones to my MacBook and listen to lossless files stored on it...
because you think elsewhere there is a phone smaller than iPhone 8 ? 🤨If the new “SE” is the size of the iPhone 8, I’ll just stick with my SE until it dies. Then I’ll decide if I will stick with Apple or move on. I don’t want a bigger phone.
Yea I was amazed when the one car we rented actually had the foot e-brake. And I'm curious how the heck do these automatic e-brakes work?Yeah, when will Mercedes make cars with round headlights again? When are they going to realize not everyone wants cars with these amorphous slithers as headlights? We also want a handbrake between the front seats.
And even if it does get them for two years, it takes for freaking ever to get the OS updates once they are released. Got S8+ shortly after launch, and they were still dragging their feet for months on Oreo until we finally bailed again for iOS.On the other hand, the Samsung has a craptastic processor and camera, runs android and will recieve software updates for 2 years max.
In addition, LCD doesn't suffer from OLED burn-in, traditional fingerprint sensors are still faster, and a higher-res (and probably less color accurate) screen is marginally better while using more battery.
It's all a matter of priorities, I couldn't care less about the specs you've mentioned...
Why would anyone want to use a phone with those huge bezels?
Which I feel is fine. What Apple seems to have learnt from the whole 5C saga is that if people can't get the latest iPhone, the next best thing is to settle for what was once the best. In short, between the 5c and the 5, people would rather get the iPhone 5 because it was once the "best iPhone", rather than the 5c which basically telegraphed to everyone that you were using a cheaper iPhone. Even if both were the same spec-wise.
Part of me wonders if there are still some users holding onto their older iPhones because they genuinely prefer the home button and this might be Apple's way of reaching out to them with an updated product?
Another explanation would be that this cheaper iPhone is meant to be manufactured in India for the Indian market (to avoid taxes, and appeal to a more budget-conscious crowd)?
because we value function over form, and for some of us TouchID is superior to FaceID. I also prefer having an actual home button. Sure the smaller bezel looks nicer, but for me and a lot o others the trade-off just isn't worth it.