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Updated Mac Mini Still Coming With M2 and M2 Pro Chips
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Totally agree with that. What about MacBook Pro 13”? I think it should follow the Mac mini and include a Pro as well.
It'll be the Mac Mini Studio. Sold only to those affirming they'll only take on projects under a certain monetary amount.
This is assuming that Apple will release the Mac Pro this year. Yesterday they announced a video card & storage update for the Intel Mac Pro. There's a new AMD card pro users can configure and storage on the base model was bumped to 512GB. IF Apple was releasing an Apple Silicon Mac Pro this year, I don't see why they would bother announcing these updates for the current Mac Pro. My gut says we won't see the ASi Mac Pro until 2023
Considering apple released the Mac Pro and Pro Display at WWDC in the past, I fully expect we will see them launch them at WWDC again with shipping later in the year.
I then expect come October/November M2 will launch in the MBA and probably a refreshed Mac mini and iPad Pro, then come spring 2023 we will probably see the M2 iMac.
Then in late 2023 we will be when the M2 Pro and Max chips are announced in the MacBook Pro’s.
Overall it’s just going to be a tick tock cycle…
Late 20 - Mid 21 - M1
Late 21 - Mid 22 - M1 Pro Max Ultra
Late 22 - Mid 23 - M2
Late 23 - Mid 24 - M2 Pro Max Ultra
Late 24 - Mid 25 - M3
Late 25 - Mid 26 - M3 Pro Max Ultra and so on…
With how far ahead these chips are in comparison to the competition Apple can afford a 24 month refresh cycle on their Mac line up for the foreseeable future.
I then expect come October/November M2 will launch in the MBA and probably a refreshed Mac mini and iPad Pro, then come spring 2023 we will probably see the M2 iMac.
Then in late 2023 we will be when the M2 Pro and Max chips are announced in the MacBook Pro’s.
Overall it’s just going to be a tick tock cycle…
Late 20 - Mid 21 - M1
Late 21 - Mid 22 - M1 Pro Max Ultra
Late 22 - Mid 23 - M2
Late 23 - Mid 24 - M2 Pro Max Ultra
Late 24 - Mid 25 - M3
Late 25 - Mid 26 - M3 Pro Max Ultra and so on…
With how far ahead these chips are in comparison to the competition Apple can afford a 24 month refresh cycle on their Mac line up for the foreseeable future.
Disagree. If you look at the M1 Ultra it's basically 2 M1 Max chips fused together to form a single chip. Yet Apple gave it the M1 Ultra branding. If Apple did what you suggested it would essentially be a new chip and during the keynote it was explicitly stated that M1 Ultra is the last of the M1 series SoC's.
It’s also possible Apple will continue selling the Intel Mac Pro alongside a new AS one for awhile.
Up till now, every time an ASi Mac has been released, the respective Intel model that it replaced has been discontinued so I don't any expect different with the Mac Pro. That said it's not out of the realm of possibility.
Actually thinking about this more maybe the M2 will be based off the A16 if it is announced late enough in the year. I think I remember reading something here that stated Apple was planning on a 2 year refresh cycle for the M chips so skipping the A15 would make sense. Also this November would be 2 years since the original M1 was announced.
If Apple is going to make their 2 year transition deadline the new Mac Pro needs to be announced at or before WWDC this year. That gives them time to announce whatever is going in the Mac Pro before the M2 chips are announced. (Unless Apple started their 2 year countdown when the first M1 was announced and not at WWDC.)
I still can’t figure out what they would put in the Mac Pro if the M1 Ultra is the last M1 chip. The binning strategy outlined in this video makes sense but what Apple mentioned yesterday seems to cast doubt on slapping 2 M1 Ultras together.
They obsoleted the entire shelf when they announced the entire product line moving to AS.
If only that were true. You can't rely on Apple to release anything except an annual iPhone.
I have a M1 8gb for my laser engraving business...basically the bottom of the barrel. I am not mad about it...it just needs a little bit more...power. And since everyone on youtube only cares about video stress tests...I had to figure out that I should have gotten the M1 16gb instead. Nothing wrong with it...just needs to work a little faster. Between the design aspect and the running of two lasers...something slows down. Still better than a pc I had to run my lasers...
That is quite likely. Of all the software that would still be stuck on Intel, the high end, low volume packages used on a Mac Pro are good candidates.
We were, we just didn't know how Apple would call it. It's been rumored many times that Apple would just put 2 or more M1 Max together for the Mac Pro.
That decision would be fine if Apple's brand new prices go down normally through time. But problem is Apple keeps the same price of their stuff until they replace it. For example, it would be highly annoying if you buy a $1000 2020 MacBook Air today, and Apple refresh it just months later. But it would be fine if Apple gradually decreased the price, but they didn't. So people tend to try to find the best time to buy an Apple product.
Has anyone Stress-Tested the Performance Controller design & implementation on ANY of the M1 chips ?
And here, I mean, with a real world test, NOT a synthetic benchmark.
E.g., with a CPU-based Encoder/Decoder that uses the ARM NEON of each core.
I would do it if I had spare cycles right now, but I don't, so I thought I'd ask.
And here, I mean, with a real world test, NOT a synthetic benchmark.
E.g., with a CPU-based Encoder/Decoder that uses the ARM NEON of each core.
I would do it if I had spare cycles right now, but I don't, so I thought I'd ask.
But the Mac Pro user base is a bit different than the rest, very pro heavy and with specific needs for their work. Apple may want to cater to them and give them extra time to transition.
I believe the M2 will match the M1 with 4 efficiency cores. The M2 needs to go to the ipad, so efficiency is critical.
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Yep. Until the software people use on the Pros works on the M1 Apple will keep the Intel machines around for a while. In fact they still sell an Intel Mac Mini, probably for people who use them as servers. It will be at least another year, maybe longer, before Apple stops selling all Intel machines.
You should consider saving up for the low end Studio then. A Mac Mini with an M1 Pro and 32 GB of RAM will probably cost around $1499 or more. The low end Studio has an M1 Max starting with 32 GB at $1999. Yes, $500 is a lot of money, but this is machine you’ll have for years to come and will be pretty future proof as today’s apps don’t take full advantage of the new chips like they will a few years from now When developers figure it all out.