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I have been following this tread since the beginning and I wanted see what a 2x 2.93 Dell cost in comparison to the mac and I did not see a huge difference in price.

The T5500 that I was looking at....

If you've really been following this thread, then you would realize the few have claimed that the dual socket octo-core Apple is overpriced when compared to dual socket octo-core systems from other companies.

The discussion has been that the single socket quad core is way, way overpriced compared to Core i7 systems. In this case, the Apple Tax is about $2000 (although about $1700 for the system, and $300 for the display).
 
But are they effectively Micro ATX. ;) See my point?

No, what is your point? Is there something bad about Micro ATX? (And most of those boards are ATX, not micro ATX.)

Please, acknowledge that Apple has nothing in the mid-range quad core space. Acknowledge that Apple's entry quad core is a high-end workstation - way over-priced for most people.
 
No, what is your point? Is there something bad about Micro ATX? (And most of those boards are ATX, not micro ATX.)
I'm surprised I had to bring this up to you of all people. :(

The Studio XPS case is a effectively a Micro ATX tower. It's just surprising that they crammed in 6 RAM slots when it can be hard enough to find a Micro ATX board with 4 RAM slots.
 

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I agree that its not typical, but I'm happy to see stuff like that. I'd love to build a micro ATX system with an i7 and like 12 gigs of RAM or more in an Antec P180 mini case :) I love that case. My main box is a full sized Antec P180 which I really like as well.


Rare and surprising they put 6 RAM slots. :D

You'd expect the more awkward 4 slot configuration which isn't the best for triple-channel.
 
I agree that its not typical, but I'm happy to see stuff like that. I'd love to build a micro ATX system with an i7 and like 12 gigs of RAM or more in an Antec P180 mini case :) I love that case. My main box is a full sized Antec P180 which I really like as well.
That's exactly the kind of build that I would like as well. The mini P180 reminds me so much of the Mac Pro. Failing that a full tower Cooler Master Cosmos 1000. :D

What I like the most about the Mac Pro is the cable management.
 
I don't need the inside of the case to be an "objet d'art"

That's exactly the kind of build that I would like as well. The mini P180 reminds me so much of the Mac Pro. Failing that a full tower Cooler Master Cosmos 1000. :D

What I like the most about the Mac Pro is the cable management.

Personally, I'm not too concerned with what the inside of the case looks like.

Cables should be managed - true. They need to stay out of the air flow, yet be easy to connect (and have spare leads at each option bay).

The Studio XPS 435MT case is pretty bare bones. Cable layout is good, but unfortunately most things are mounted with screws. The disk bays are easily accessible.

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The Dell Precision Workstations cases are much nicer - more solid and they are tool-free to maintain. Practical things.
 
If you've really been following this thread, then you would realize the few have claimed that the dual socket octo-core Apple is overpriced when compared to dual socket octo-core systems from other companies.

The discussion has been that the single socket quad core is way, way overpriced compared to Core i7 systems. In this case, the Apple Tax is about $2000 (although about $1700 for the system, and $300 for the display).

Don't forget that the Dell T3500 and the HP Z400 are also overpriced, just not as much as the Mac Pro Quad. ;)
 
Don't forget that the Dell T3500 and the HP Z400 are also overpriced, just not as much as the Mac Pro Quad. ;)

But, you can get the Studio XPS instead of the T3500 - if you don't want ECC, more slots/bays, and a fancier case.

Apple, if you want any quad core, it starts at $2499.
 
Personally, I'm not too concerned with what the inside of the case looks like.

Cables should be managed - true. They need to stay out of the air flow, yet be easy to connect (and have spare leads at each option bay).

The Studio XPS 435MT case is pretty bare bones. Cable layout is good, but unfortunately most things are mounted with screws. The disk bays are easily accessible.

dell-studio-xps-435-chasis.jpg


The Dell Precision Workstations cases are much nicer - more solid and they are tool-free to maintain. Practical things.
I'll be getting a modular power supply and a case with better management (P180 or Cosmos 1000) over my current cheap Cooler Master Elite 330. It just works and I don't see a need to show off the interior of my case but there's always a small nagging feeling in the back of my mind.
 
But, you can get the Studio XPS instead of the T3500 - if you don't want ECC, more slots/bays, and a fancier case.

Apple, if you want any quad core, it starts at $2499.

Very true, which brings us back to the tired argument of lack of choice with Apple.

Very simple. Don't buy Apple.
 
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