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I've still got my 2006 15" 2.26 C2D, anyone have any idea what kind of processor performance boost (%) I'll likely get from the new 15" IB? If there is a 20% increase versus only the 2011 SB model, then I imagine it will be massive for me.
I think you'll see an improvement by a factor of 6x ~ 8x.
 
Macbook pro won't be updated until at least June people

they won't just release the 15, then the 13, it has always been all at once to show the entire line, realistically they won't be updated until at least june mark my words on that. probaly with Mountain Lion, im hoping for a longer battery, intel hd 4000, usb 3.0 and by some miracle quad core on the 13 inch it will probaly be dual core but i can dream, please remove the optical drive
 
I DO value performance. ...but a processor bump isn't going to make my computer faster in anything but a very few tasks. I don't do 3d, I'm an editor, and a photographer. Data access is always the bottleneck. That being said, I don't want an Air, because I need a CPU that's more powerful than my 4 year old 13" aluminum Macbook.

a photographer makes good enough money on a few shoots to buy any computer he/she wants

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they won't just release the 15, then the 13, it has always been all at once to show the entire line, realistically they won't be updated until at least june mark my words on that. probaly with Mountain Lion, im hoping for a longer battery, intel hd 4000, usb 3.0 and by some miracle quad core on the 13 inch it will probaly be dual core but i can dream, please remove the optical drive

i know you said "I can dream" but why wait to June if the 13 will use the quad available at the end of April?

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A 2012 mbp has been out for over a year??? Where?

i think he meant the machine the poster was whinning about being dated
 
they won't just release the 15, then the 13, it has always been all at once to show the entire line, realistically they won't be updated until at least june mark my words on that. probaly with Mountain Lion, im hoping for a longer battery, intel hd 4000, usb 3.0 and by some miracle quad core on the 13 inch it will probaly be dual core but i can dream, please remove the optical drive


Thats not strictly true - when the 12" and 17" Powerbooks came in years ago they went to the new design (an early precursor to the current aluminium unibody designs) - the 15" carried on in the oldstyle titanium design for several months.

Additionally from the article it looks like the chips *likely* to go in the 13" won't be available til June - if thats accurate then they have little choice...
 
they won't just release the 15, then the 13, it has always been all at once to show the entire line, realistically they won't be updated until at least june mark my words on that. probaly with Mountain Lion, im hoping for a longer battery, intel hd 4000, usb 3.0 and by some miracle quad core on the 13 inch it will probaly be dual core but i can dream, please remove the optical drive

I think the 13in macbook pro is gonna be the new 13 in macbook air ... that way they'll launch the 15 and 17" Pro line early and the more popular 13" Air line later by itself. That's my guess anyways ... regardless, cheapest 15in pro with a dedicated gpu on day one for me. Hoping it gets released before diablo 3 on May 15th and it can max out the graphics :p
 
If you are looking at the MBPro 13", then most likely a 13" MBAir would suit you just fine.

Uh no. I'm not going to pay more money just to get a smaller computer when the 13" MBP is small enough and to end up with a smaller hard drive (I need more hard drive than what the MBA offers as my laptop is also my desktop) and no easy ability to upgrade RAM or the hard drive really (and I can upgrade the hard drive to much bigger nevermind it already coming with a bigger hard drive. Sure, it's not solid state but I could pick a solid state one if I wished).

So, no, a 13" MBA isn't going to suite some one fine that wants an MBP. There are differences.
 
Sounds good, but ...

I'm on the other end of the spectrum, graphics wise. IMO, if they don't include a top performing graphics chipset, it's practically a deal-breaker for me.

I *do* like to play games on my machine occasionally, and don't want them to be a sluggish embarrassment when they're run on it.

Not only that, but when one attaches a large external display, the graphics performance becomes more of an issue too, when it has to refresh that many more pixels than the native resolution of the built in 15" screen.

For far too long, Apple has neglected graphics performance as only a minor/secondary concern, and that's the area where the Windows PCs keep stomping them. There's no reason it has to be that way.

I'm fine with Apple offering CHOICES, for people who don't care about better graphics performance -- but good, dedicated GPUs need to be an option for any notebook they put a "Pro" label on.


I wouldn't mind a 15" Pro with only the Intel HD 4000 graphics. I don't do any games or 3D programming, I'll take the extended battery life, less heat, and cheaper cost.
 
I'm on the other end of the spectrum, graphics wise. IMO, if they don't include a top performing graphics chipset, it's practically a deal-breaker for me.

I *do* like to play games on my machine occasionally, and don't want them to be a sluggish embarrassment when they're run on it.

Not only that, but when one attaches a large external display, the graphics performance becomes more of an issue too, when it has to refresh that many more pixels than the native resolution of the built in 15" screen.

For far too long, Apple has neglected graphics performance as only a minor/secondary concern, and that's the area where the Windows PCs keep stomping them. There's no reason it has to be that way.

I'm fine with Apple offering CHOICES, for people who don't care about better graphics performance -- but good, dedicated GPUs need to be an option for any notebook they put a "Pro" label on.

isnt there talk of external gpu's via thunderbolt?
 
I'm on the other end of the spectrum, graphics wise. IMO, if they don't include a top performing graphics chipset, it's practically a deal-breaker for me.

I *do* like to play games on my machine occasionally, and don't want them to be a sluggish embarrassment when they're run on it.

Not only that, but when one attaches a large external display, the graphics performance becomes more of an issue too, when it has to refresh that many more pixels than the native resolution of the built in 15" screen.

For far too long, Apple has neglected graphics performance as only a minor/secondary concern, and that's the area where the Windows PCs keep stomping them. There's no reason it has to be that way.

I'm fine with Apple offering CHOICES, for people who don't care about better graphics performance -- but good, dedicated GPUs need to be an option for any notebook they put a "Pro" label on.


I think more kids play videor games than professionals
 
Uh no. I'm not going to pay more money just to get a smaller computer when the 13" MBP is small enough and to end up with a smaller hard drive (I need more hard drive than what the MBA offers as my laptop is also my desktop) and no easy ability to upgrade RAM or the hard drive really (and I can upgrade the hard drive to much bigger nevermind it already coming with a bigger hard drive. Sure, it's not solid state but I could pick a solid state one if I wished).

So, no, a 13" MBA isn't going to suite some one fine that wants an MBP. There are differences.

Ditto. I don't get the 13" Air. I'd rather carry an extra 1.5lbs and be able to stick 2nd HDD/SSD drive in there and bump the memory to 8GB or 16GB.

Now the 11" Air, I get that...I'm having a hard time deciding between the next 11" Air and the next 13" Pro.
 
Im hoping there is a slight refresh on the looks of the next MBP. For one its been a long time this design has been around. Granted it is a fantastic looking design, however its been a long time and pretty much every single other company have coppied it at some point (HP, Lenovo, and Samsung are the first to pop into my head right now.)

I'd support a removal of the optic drive. My own optic drive from my 2008 MBP broke like 6 month after I bought it, its been over 3 years now and I havent missed it (I could have gone to apple care and fix it but it was so tedious and I really wont use it ever....) Perhaps it could be replaced with additional battery, an standard SSD for all models for bootup drive (e.g. small 32-64gb ssd + 300GB + HDD), better cooling (MBPs are in desperate need for better cooling system o_O) or simply slightly smaller case.

As for graphics, I discovered that the HD3000 is not awful, it is capable of running most current games @ low settings and very playable FPS (25-35+) but this is a laptop that cost over 1K it should really come equipped with something other than the bare minimum.....
 
A 4-10% performance improvement makes no difference to me. I want a cooler running system with less fan noise. After that I want longer battery life. Performance has not been any kind of issue for me for years.

Heck, people have been returning the i7 based MacBook Pros and buying the i5 model because it doesn't run nearly as hot., so stop trying to push the cutting edge stuff.
 
I just want to be able to play Diablo III. My late 2008 13" MBP isn't gonna cut it. Now to decide whether or not to just wait until the new iMacs are released to save a boat load of money!
 
I wished good companies like Apple did not have to work with shady organizations like said wireless service providers.

We all hear about the billions of dollars Apple has. Well they should have used some of that to buy the old television spectrum and made their own wireless network, it would have been great. People thought that Google was going to do that with their multi-billion dollar bid for parts of the spectrum. However that fell through.

Now said shady companies are using those bands, and charging ridiculous fees for it.

If we all united and stop using our wireless devises for a couple of months, rolls eyes, these shady companies would feel the pinch and then maybe we would have decent service and lower prices.

However, I wished Apple would have went into the wireless service provider business themselves. It sure would have been a better wheel then what we currently use. :)

ummm are you in the wrong thread?

and ya giving apple the monoply for wireless providing sounds like a swell idea
 
I also hope they remove the FireWire port. It's legacy, I don't need it, it's ugly, takes up space, and removing it will help push Thunderbolt forward.
 
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