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FrankySavvy

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With intel announcing the Skylake roadmap, how likely would a Skylake 27" iMac be in Fall 2015, probable announcement October?

Would it be a big improvement?
 
From the list of the various intel processor specs I saw today, it seems like we are stuck in 2010 or something. I know new and improved and all that, but I have faster actual clock speeds right now in my 14 imac. Is this the end of the line of raw processing power increases, not to mention number of cores seems stagnant as well?
 
So does anyone have any insight as to when the new Skylake iMacs will be released? Some are saying 2016, though I was expecting Apples 9th event to be the unveiling. I literally sold all my Macs to fund the purchase of a new iMac, and was banking on the iPhone event to announce th refresh. Of course I have a backup, my iPad. But I'm really hoping to pickup a Skylake Mac soon.
 
So does anyone have any insight as to when the new Skylake iMacs will be released? Some are saying 2016, though I was expecting Apples 9th event to be the unveiling. I literally sold all my Macs to fund the purchase of a new iMac, and was banking on the iPhone event to announce th refresh. Of course I have a backup, my iPad. But I'm really hoping to pickup a Skylake Mac soon.

I am think silent update with September event or big october event
 
From the list of the various intel processor specs I saw today, it seems like we are stuck in 2010 or something. I know new and improved and all that, but I have faster actual clock speeds right now in my 14 imac. Is this the end of the line of raw processing power increases, not to mention number of cores seems stagnant as well?

I thought we were past the clock speed = performance discussion many years ago.
 
Overclockable 6th generation CoreI CPUs are already available. They could update the BTO model - if they wanted.
But given the reports of the less-than-ideal thermal characteristics of the current design, my guess would be that they'll try to fit in less power-hungry CPUs and GPUs, keeping overall performance on-par with the current generation, before going for a complete redesign in late 2016.
Skylake can ramp-up (and down) the power much better than anything before it - so it should be ideally suited for those mostly-idle iMacs sitting in offices and homes...
 
Not being a long time follower of mac and how apple tends to do things - how far in advance of something new will apple fess up? I'm in the market and vacillating between a low end mp or an i7 retina imac. I don't know if the skylake & the better retina screen for the rimac is worth waiting for, or just forget about it and order up a machine. The buyers guide says wait. OTOH, I can see not saying too much too soon or apple won't be able to get rid of current stock without dep discounts.
 
Not being a long time follower of mac and how apple tends to do things - how far in advance of something new will apple fess up? I'm in the market and vacillating between a low end mp or an i7 retina imac. I don't know if the skylake & the better retina screen for the rimac is worth waiting for, or just forget about it and order up a machine. The buyers guide says wait. OTOH, I can see not saying too much too soon or apple won't be able to get rid of current stock without dep discounts.


Just wait as long as you can - and then some ;-)
Most of the Skylake chips aren't going to hit the market before 2016, AFAIK.
The only thing you can buy right now are unlocked (overclockable) high-end 6th-generation Core i5/i7 CPUs.

Of course, it doesn't hurt to wait another five days until after the "show". But there won't be any iMacs in September.
At least I'd be very surprised otherwise.
 
Not gonna happen, it'll be a midrange mobile AMD GPU with the open CL/GL optimised drivers for video/photo editing.
Look at this link - it clearly says there's a further mention of AMD Radeon M380 - M395X graphics, which could be used in high-end iMac models. A M390X or a M395X isn't anything midrange for that matter.
 
Just wait as long as you can - and then some ;-)
Most of the Skylake chips aren't going to hit the market before 2016, AFAIK.
The only thing you can buy right now are unlocked (overclockable) high-end 6th-generation Core i5/i7 CPUs.

Of course, it doesn't hurt to wait another five days until after the "show". But there won't be any iMacs in September.
At least I'd be very surprised otherwise.
I don't expect them in September, but I was expecting October... 2016 would be a major bummer.
 
Seems like the focus is more on "low power energy consumption" than sheer brutal power/speed.
As it was always the case when it comes to the iMac. Still, the processors are desktop variants - so speed can't be a real letdown here, because sometimes an iMac beats a Mac Pro when it comes to certain tasks.

EDIT: If you're referring to the Skylake architecture as a whole, then you're right too. But under the hood there are some optimizations, so we should see 10-20 % gains as well when it comes to speed.
 
10% would be nothing.
But I think it's becoming more and more difficult to judge the real performance of an Intel system just from the specs.
Due to this "Turbo-Mode" feature, the CPU will crank-up performance whenever it needs to - but only for as long as it doesn't overheat.
So, cooling becomes even more vital, if one wants to draw as much power from it as possible. A thing that has been neglected in the design of the iMac since probably half a decade or more....
 
Seems like the focus is more on "low power energy consumption" than sheer brutal power/speed.

Brutal power & speed should be Mac Pro.
But I think Apple should steer focus from
designing ultra-thin models to real functional
features like heat management, non-glossy high-contrast
screen, removable HDD/SSD, a SD card slot that is accessible
(to actually live up to its ergonomic design). Finger-print login
like their mobile devices should be on the menu. Better internal
speakers could be another focus. The damn thing is so thin
their edge could be disappearing...fast.
 
10% would be nothing.
But I think it's becoming more and more difficult to judge the real performance of an Intel system just from the specs.
Due to this "Turbo-Mode" feature, the CPU will crank-up performance whenever it needs to - but only for as long as it doesn't overheat.
So, cooling becomes even more vital, if one wants to draw as much power from it as possible. A thing that has been neglected in the design of the iMac since probably half a decade or more....
There's not really such a thing as "10%" improvement. Any improvement will have a lot of variables to it.
 
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