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Updated Skylake 27" iMac this fall?

duckwellboots said:
Makes sense. I haven't used Windows in almost a decade at this point, but I do plan on running Parallels with any new machine, so it's good you mentioned the issues with Windows 10. Would you recommend Windows 8.1 then?

I did originally have parallels on this MBP, but eventually jettisoned it in favour of more disk space. With some of my current work requiring Windows-only programs, however, I'll be going back to parallels whether I get a new system or not.
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To be honest, a lot of the privacy issues that go along with Windows 10 have migrated to 7 and 8.1 via updates. If you've not heard about them, read up on it. Most of it can be turned off, but not all, and it's just the principal of it. I've only used 10 on a VM for testing, so I can't really comment on it. I'd say if you're just going to run a VM of Windows for programs that won't run native on OS X, I'd pick 7 or 8.1 with automatic updates turned off.
 
Brandon Ess said:
To be honest, a lot of the privacy issues that go along with Windows 10 have migrated to 7 and 8.1 via updates. If you've not heard about them, read up on it. Most of it can be turned off, but not all, and it's just the principal of it. I've only used 10 on a VM for testing, so I can't really comment on it. I'd say if you're just going to run a VM of Windows for programs that won't run native on OS X, I'd pick 7 or 8.1 with automatic updates turned off.
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Yeah, I'll look into that. Cheers!
 
OK...stupid question...

On Tuesday I ordered a 27" iMac 5K 4.0GHz i7/8GB RAM/512SSD/AMD R9 M395 after going back and forth between the 395 and 395X. It's set to be delivered to the Apple Store by the 26th.

I'm still going back and forth in my mind between the 395 and 395X. What I'm really waiting to see are benchmarks comparing the two. (I know that people don't have the 395X to compare as of yet.)

What I'm wondering is, how long into the ordering process can I cancel? Can I cancel it right up to it waiting for me at the Apple Store? (that doesn't seem right to me) If I see the performance that much better next week, I'd like to cancel and order the 395X. Otherwise, I would ideally like to keep my place "in the queue."

Thanks!
 
ycoidi2000 said:
OK...stupid question...

On Tuesday I ordered a 27" iMac 5K 4.0GHz i7/8GB RAM/512SSD/AMD R9 M395 after going back and forth between the 395 and 395X. It's set to be delivered to the Apple Store by the 26th.

I'm still going back and forth in my mind between the 395 and 395X. What I'm really waiting to see are benchmarks comparing the two. (I know that people don't have the 395X to compare as of yet.)

What I'm wondering is, how long into the ordering process can I cancel? Can I cancel it right up to it waiting for me at the Apple Store? (that doesn't seem right to me) If I see the performance that much better next week, I'd like to cancel and order the 395X. Otherwise, I would ideally like to keep my place "in the queue."

Thanks!
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What is the order status? Order is being processed? Preparing for Shipment? If it's Order is being Processed you can still cancel, Preparing for Shipment, no.
 
duckwellboots said:
Makes sense. I haven't used Windows in almost a decade at this point, but I do plan on running Parallels with any new machine, so it's good you mentioned the issues with Windows 10. Would you recommend Windows 8.1 then?

I did originally have parallels on this MBP, but eventually jettisoned it in favour of more disk space. With some of my current work requiring Windows-only programs, however, I'll be going back to parallels whether I get a new system or not.
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I loved Windows 8 and 8.1 but 10 is better, don't bother that much about the privacy settings. They are not easy to find but a few companies decided to publish free software to control them from a central point.

This is a free one:
http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
 
slayerizer said:
I loved Windows 8 and 8.1 but 10 is better, don't bother that much about the privacy settings. They are not easy to find but a few companies decided to publish free software to control them from a central point.

This is a free one:
http://www.oo-software.com/en/shutup10
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Exactly another reason why I want to jump ship to Apple. The fact that you have to download a third party program to manage your OS privacy is... ludicrous.
 
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Brandon Ess said:
Exactly another reason why I want to jump ship to Apple. The fact that you have to download a third party program to manage your OS privacy is... ludicrous.
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you don't, it ask you the questions when you setup your computer. I know it could be intimidating but not a show stopper. I still prefer Mac OSX in general.
 
slayerizer said:
you don't, it ask you the questions when you setup your computer. I know it could be intimidating but not a show stopper. I still prefer Mac OSX in general.
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That was somewhat sarcasm in my last post. Most (not all) of the "telemetry" items can be disabled even after install. But, it's easy enough for MS to turn them back on via mandatory updates. Also, I've watched a machine with Windows 10 on a packet sniffer, sitting idle it's constantly talking to MS servers. Read a few news articles about it just a few weeks ago.

But I digress, this thread probably isn't the best place to discuss it since we're way off topic :)
 
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2133Mhz RAM??? I apologize for posting this to various topics but I feel like certain people who may have answer may only be following certain threads and this is the most popular while it is not exactly about the RAM as two other threads are. While I'm waiting for my top specced new 5K (sans RAM) to replace sweet old 2011 I'd like to know if anyone has an opportunity test if 5K works with DDR3L 2133Mhz RAM? I'm eyeing on the Kingston HyperX with CL11 which should be quite an update compared to the Hynix 1866 CL13 it has as factory option. I could always get faster (better than CL13) 1866 but before doing that I really wanna know if the motherboard will support 2133 or will it be rolled down to 1866 after powering the comp. Or will it not work at all...
 
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I have a late 2009 Imac27... and I'm about to order a loaded out new one with Skylake. When i got this 2009 i brought my PC tower to the Apple store and they transferred all of my files (photos, documents, etc.) to the new one for me. What do i need to do to do the same from my current Imac to another?
 
Cajun_Mike said:
I have a late 2009 Imac27... and I'm about to order a loaded out new one with Skylake. When i got this 2009 i brought my PC tower to the Apple store and they transferred all of my files (photos, documents, etc.) to the new one for me. What do i need to do to do the same from my current Imac to another?
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You should be able to transfer everything using Migration Assistant

https://support.apple.com/en-gb/HT204350
 
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majestice said:
2133Mhz RAM??? I apologize for posting this to various topics but I feel like certain people who may have answer may only be following certain threads and this is the most popular while it is not exactly about the RAM as two other threads are. While I'm waiting for my top specced new 5K (sans RAM) to replace sweet old 2011 I'd like to know if anyone has an opportunity test if 5K works with DDR3L 2133Mhz RAM? I'm eyeing on the Kingston HyperX with CL11 which should be quite an update compared to the Hynix 1866 CL13 it has as factory option. I could always get faster (better than CL13) 1866 but before doing that I really wanna know if the motherboard will support 2133 or will it be rolled down to 1866 after powering the comp. Or will it not work at all...
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the ram in all Macs will only run as fast as the stock ram is spec'd at. Whether the faster ram will work or not is probably...
 
I see a lot of talk about Fusion Drive vs. SSD and I just want to add something to that discussion.

I currently use a late 2009 27" iMac where the HDD died after 2 years and 1 month (I am from Denmark where we have 2 years warranty). I then replaced the drive with a new 2TB HDD and later on added an SSD when the optical drive failed. My parents are currently using a 2012 27" iMac. It was ordered from Apple with a 1TB Fusion Drive. Same story, the drive died after 2 years and 1 month. I changed the HDD for them to a 1TB Samsung SSD and it works perfectly fine now. My point is: Having a spinning hard drive means that it will fail at some point, and it will most likely fail much faster than an SSD. Since the new iMac's (including my parents late 2012 model) are now glued together, they are very difficult to repair AND make them look good again after they are glued back together again. So for anyone looking to keep their shiny new machine for a long time (more than 2-3 years) I would personally never consider a spinning hard drive. I would much rather get a 256GB SSD if money are tight and then add external storage. At least that is very easy to replace if it fails.
 
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Having a spinning hard drive means that it will fail at some poin...
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I agree. I am SSD only on every computer I own. Except for the 24TB FreeNAS server (14TB storage after redundancy) I built to store all my files on my network. Using ZFS Z-Raid2 I need to lose 3 drives before I will lose data. That said, it is backed up in the cloud in worst case scenario.
 
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xgman said:
the ram in all Macs will only run as fast as the stock ram is spec'd at. Whether the faster ram will work or not is probably...
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That's what I thought too. But then people showed me how they were running 1866mhz in the PREVIOUS retina iMac. They claim ram speed is dictated by the CPU. I'm perfectly willing to buy the 2133, just can't find confirmation that it works, only theories.
 
ohsnaphappy said:
That's what I thought too. But then people showed me how they were running 1866mhz in the PREVIOUS retina iMac. They claim ram speed is dictated by the CPU. I'm perfectly willing to buy the 2133, just can't find confirmation that it works, only theories.
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You could always grab a cheap 4GB stick and test it out first.
 
So, on day 14 I ended up swapping the Macbook Pro out for the top-line stock iMac. I'm actually kinda shocked at how fast the FusionDrive is. Diablo 3 runs just peachy at 1440p, so I'm happy with that, too.

The screen is OMG. I feel a little bad about grabbing the Macbook Pro just to return it, but I started running numbers in my head and I was wasting about $450 (an Apple Watch, or a good amount toward an iPad Pro)... so here I am. Heh. :p

Feel bad, but no real regrets. It's as speedy as I need it to be, and I actually saved some money.

I do NOT however love the Magic Keyboard. I'm typing on it now, but it doesn't feel really awesome yet. Not a terrible number of typos, but something about the spacing and whatnot makes it really, really easy for me to mistype my password. I thought I'd set the mac up improperly after literally typo'ing the login info about 20 times. The Magic Mouse 2 feels a bit like a missed opportunity still.
 
Toydoll said:
It's true that you've always paid "premium" (some would call it overpriced). But normally you would have got a premium product.

If you can't realize that Apple, more and more, is f*cking with its customers. Well... Good for you
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It's called the Reality Distortion Field by Steve Jobs.
 
MadDane said:
I would personally never consider a spinning hard drive. I would much rather get a 256GB SSD if money are tight and then add external storage. At least that is very easy to replace if it fails.
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Best advice here right here. Most people don't need a huge HD but it's much more beneficial to just get the 256GB upgrade + 1TB+ external USB3 7200rpm drive that will run just as fast as the HDD portion of a fusion.
 
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I wanted to self-upgrade my RAM and am wondering what to order. Is this the right type of RAM for the new 27" iMACs?

Crucial RAM on Amazon
 
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