Titanium81
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I would definitely would wait, $2000.00 is a lot to spend on something that could very well get a revolutionary design change in a few months.
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Upgrade 13" MBP to 15" or wait?
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I would definitely would wait, $2000.00 is a lot to spend on something that could very well get a revolutionary design change in a few months.
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Titanium81
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Or should I say "A Magical and Revolutionary" Design Change at a "Remarkably Low Price" according to Apple 😀
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Have you got a source about this late 2011 design refresh? I haven't seen anything about it.
I had to send my 2011 MBP 2.2 back to Apple so I'm interested on whether I should wait or not (like most people 🙄).
Titanium81
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YOU laugh now.......I'll be laughing later when I'm playing on my New Thinner 15" MacBook Pro 😀, and you got the last release of the Old, Heavier, Outdated, Design. 🙁 So ya, go ahead and "LAUGH" all you want "NOW".
are you noob?
macbook pros were just released in february which wasnt even that long ago.
the intel ivy bridges processors wont be avialable till early next year 2012. it wouldnt make sense for apple to release another set of macbook pros in the fall with the same processors.
hows the design outdated? pc manufacturers still havent released something that is as solid and elegant looking as the macbook pros, and the 5ib weight of it isnt that heavy at all unless ur a weakling.
the current macbook pros are top of the line, and will remain powerful even after a new release. Its stupid to consider that a notebook can onyl last a year. doesnt matter what u buy, there will ALWAYS be something newer, faster and better around the corner.
so while you wait for something new to come out next year, i will be enjoying my awesome computer for years to come. i can definately depeend on this to last my 4 years of university.
..and I'll be waiting for the early 2012 model with Ivy Bridge/updated gfx, which will **** all over your machine 😉 seriously though, if we all thought like this then we'd never buy anything.
The current MBP is a solid machine, and will be for quite some time regardless of newer models. However I must say, Apple releases and release dates always intrigue me.
Titanium81
macrumors 6502a
You'd have to be a Noob (a slang term for a novice or newcomer, or somebody inexperienced), not to know that Apple's release cycle is 8 - 10 Months now for the MacBook Pro's. Thanks for playing though😉
Follow the Roadmap
http://motherboardnews.com/2011/04/...s-new-sandy-bridge-chips-ivy-bridge-and-more/
Q4 2011. This is where things start to get interesting as the LGA 1366/X58 platform gets phased out to make room for the enthusiast-grade Sandy Bridge-E (SNB-E) using the LGA 2011/X79 platform.
You don't need Ivy-Bridge Processors to release a new design, there is still faster Sandy-Bridge chips yet to be release!
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1204402/
Heres a thread.
It looks like there will be one at the end of this year. YES, it does make sense for
to release a new one before next year, when have they ever waited a YEAR AND A HALF just for new processors? never.
Heres a thread.
It looks like there will be one at the end of this year. YES, it does make sense for
to release a new one before next year, when have they ever waited a YEAR AND A HALF just for new processors? never.You said yourself it's not a case of *need*. It would be different if your primary system just died, then it's obvious - buy what's available now. But if your current system does what you want, wait a while and see what the next refresh brings. Someone mentioned ivy bridge - yeah, it's entirely possible there's no refresh until then, which would mean sometime early 2012, which isn't all that far away, although it's always possible there's an intermediate refresh coming sooner, especially if Apple is intending to re-design closer to the Airs. ( :-/ ) I don't keep up with if Intel is running into delays or not, and if not, would assume Feb or so for Ivy bridge, which should bring usb3 along with it.
Wait unless you *need* it today.
Wait unless you *need* it today.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1204402/
Heres a thread.
It looks like there will be one at the end of this year. YES, it does make sense for
the macbook pros were released in february of this year, 2011. the previous ones were released in march/aprilish of 2010. so yea it can be longer.
the macbook pros in 2010 were released in april. the 2011s were reelased in february. more than 10 months >.>.
and ur join date was june 2011, so yes thats why i refered u as noob.
in addition, if u want to wait, than wait. i could care less. im going to enjoy my powerful 15inch macbook pro. im heading to university this fall so having a computer now is a must have for college.
fall release date is to soon. espcially since the airs and imacs were released not to long ago, and the mini just recently.
there will be new macbook pros, but not till early next year. so if u want to wait till then , than have fun waiting.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1204402/
Heres a thread.
It looks like there will be one at the end of this year. YES, it does make sense for
^^^^ my thoughts exactly...
Titanium81
macrumors 6502a
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1204402/
Heres a thread.
It looks like there will be one at the end of this year. YES, it does make sense for
Looks like me and a few others will be enjoying our new Redesigned MacBook Pro's later this year🙂
its really pathetic how you "just have to stay up to date " with apple stuff.
there are people on here who still use the pre unibody macbook pros and quite frankly are happy with them
the waiting game is just stupid
Hope you guys realize the stars pretty much had to align for Apple to bring out the SB update the way they did. If you guys want to reference history, do so. Refreshes have been about a year for the last few major revisions. March/April 2012 isn't a stretch.
Apple was the first large manufacturer to bring Sandy to us consumers because of their agreement with Intel. When has Apple ever been early to the hardware party? Almost never. Heck, the MBP 13s were still running >2 year old Core 2s. MBP 15/17 was also late to Nehalem. We were EARLY to Sandy, which made the 10 month refresh possible (technically closer to 11 months, but who's counting?).
Furthermore, hardware changes. There WILL be new Sandy Bridge processors soon (SB E, at least on the desktop side), but quite frankly, I don't see Apple's thermal limits being able to handle such an upgrade if it were to affect mobile processors. On the graphic side of things, there are no new GPUs at least until early 2012. Apple "can" technically go for a higher end graphics card, maybe an 6850 or 6870, but quite frankly, I don't see that happening either. Apple manufacturers for mainstream, and where mainstream ends is ~6770. That's the highest card with a reasonable TDP (similar to a 6750), the "enthusiast" cards are all consuming some 60-70+ w, twice that of current cards. Would Apple utterly wreck their battery life for FPS gains? Unlikely. Furthermore, I don't think MBPs can support the thermal output of a more powerful card anyway.
So what's left? RAM bump, HDD bump. Possible. Is it worth waiting for? Not really.
What about a case redesign? Thinner you say? Problems. Thinner means even worse heat management than what we have now, and the current MBPs aren't exactly champs at diffusing heat. A smaller chassis means less air flow; this was fine with the MBA an its ULV processor and lack of discrete card, but MBPs are "professional" machines (albeit nowadays it's just a moniker), making it thinner in lue of getting rid of the graphics card and quad core processor? Makes little sense.
Apple was the first large manufacturer to bring Sandy to us consumers because of their agreement with Intel. When has Apple ever been early to the hardware party? Almost never. Heck, the MBP 13s were still running >2 year old Core 2s. MBP 15/17 was also late to Nehalem. We were EARLY to Sandy, which made the 10 month refresh possible (technically closer to 11 months, but who's counting?).
Furthermore, hardware changes. There WILL be new Sandy Bridge processors soon (SB E, at least on the desktop side), but quite frankly, I don't see Apple's thermal limits being able to handle such an upgrade if it were to affect mobile processors. On the graphic side of things, there are no new GPUs at least until early 2012. Apple "can" technically go for a higher end graphics card, maybe an 6850 or 6870, but quite frankly, I don't see that happening either. Apple manufacturers for mainstream, and where mainstream ends is ~6770. That's the highest card with a reasonable TDP (similar to a 6750), the "enthusiast" cards are all consuming some 60-70+ w, twice that of current cards. Would Apple utterly wreck their battery life for FPS gains? Unlikely. Furthermore, I don't think MBPs can support the thermal output of a more powerful card anyway.
So what's left? RAM bump, HDD bump. Possible. Is it worth waiting for? Not really.
What about a case redesign? Thinner you say? Problems. Thinner means even worse heat management than what we have now, and the current MBPs aren't exactly champs at diffusing heat. A smaller chassis means less air flow; this was fine with the MBA an its ULV processor and lack of discrete card, but MBPs are "professional" machines (albeit nowadays it's just a moniker), making it thinner in lue of getting rid of the graphics card and quad core processor? Makes little sense.
One of the few posts regarding this matter with some substance. This makes me even more inclined to get a 17 MBP now (I can get it for 50% of retail price at the moment) and then IF there's a major overhaul soon I can sell it and buy the upgraded version...
If you can get the 17" Early 2011 MBP for 50% off retail i would jump on it, i wish i could have sprung for the 17" instead of the 15" but i'm actually surprised with the amount of power that the 15" actually has. I believe you will be happy with either the 15" or the 17" but there is no point in waiting if you can get it for that price being you'll make a profit on it when you sell it.
Titanium81
macrumors 6502a
It's funny how defensive people get when there's talk that their "Prized" MacBook Pro is about to be outdated soon.
But get used to IT that's just how Apple works... Their constantly updating, redesigning and releasing amazing products to feed the never-ending crave that consumers have.
So enjoy what you have now or wait and get whats next..... there's really no right or wrong way to do it.
But get used to IT that's just how Apple works... Their constantly updating, redesigning and releasing amazing products to feed the never-ending crave that consumers have.
So enjoy what you have now or wait and get whats next..... there's really no right or wrong way to do it.
LOL your the one to talk
were not beign defensive, were being logical about this. Apple won't release new laptops till next year. Were pointing out its stupid to play the waiting game when they were just relased only a few months ago.
Titanium81
macrumors 6502a
This pretty much sum's up and puts an end to this thread...
Read the ROADMAP it's all there.