so, what is it, 23 bells in the UK right now - hopefully Basil and the wife had a great evening setting up the all new, top-of-the-heap, 9.7" iPad Pro, and are enjoying the hell out of it.
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Increasing the screen resolution 4 times over is NOT the same as adding pencil functionality, is it?
Yet another "reviewer" who got choked off by Apple's latest price point (cut out of the game going forward) and now has reverted to calling any disagreers, sheep ... nice.
Faster processor, smart connector, 256gb, true tone, pencil, faster memory, faster "ssd", bit better screen, not bad for an update. Common wisdom is that a single update is not sufficient to buy the latest. But in this specific case I think there is enough for a lot of people to justify it.
And I think you are patronizing as well and venting opinions like:
- "stop being a sheep"
- "not begin more than a pencil and a gimmicky screen"
- retina not the same improvement as a pencil
Those are IMHO opinions.
For me the keyboard, pencil and retina are all the same vital improvements I couldn't do without, or not easily.
LOL you're really trying aren't you. "Smart connector and 256GB" what a joke
You think I'm patronising, I think you're wrong. Case closed!
You forgot a brighter display, 40% less reflectivity(comes really handy when outside), truetone display, actually decent speakers(makes a world of difference), faster graphics, better colors, , much better camera(same as the iphone 6S).
Normally I'd agree with this. However, note the most important line in the OP's post:
If money isn't an issue, I would buy the very latest, most expensive iPad i.e. iPad 9.7" Pro 256GB Cellular.
Actually I would buy every most decked-out variant of every Apple product if money really isn't an issue. Maybe I'd buy all of Apple too while I'm at it.
I think "money isn't an issue" usually really means "I think my budget is so large v. Apple's prices for what I'm buying that I think it is not an issue" - but bottom line, no point trying to offer money-saving advice when "money isn't an issue".
Pencil functionality which transforms my workflow?
That was the "2 gimmicks" part. You don't need to defend your purchase, LOL.
"brighter display""truetone display""better colors"
You're really trying, aren't you?
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Well, sure money may not be an issue, but it's always good to avoid paying $200 more for features you're never going to use
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Yes, a $100 pencil which transforms the workflow of 1% of users.
Well, sure money may not be an issue, but it's always good to avoid paying $200 more for features you're never going to use
Even if you never use the Pencil or the Smart Connector, and you don't care for the other improvements like better screen and speakers, the iPad Pro will continue to get new iOS features at least a year longer than the Air2. For instance, with iOS 9, Air2 got split screen, but Air1 didn't. This kind of differentiation will occur at some point between the Air2 and iPad Pro. So for $200, you get a device that will last a year longer, plus better screen, speakers, camera. If money isn't an issue, I'd go for the Pro.
Mrs.Basil is delighted with her new iPad, and the 'features' her model offers her for the price I paid. I am therefore equally delighted.
I appreciate i could have navel gazed about an Air 2, but i didn't. I'm a 100% happy consumer of this Apple product (we are part of the Apple family as it is). Maybe on another occasion it might be different.
Thanks for all the initial advice, and then subsequent debate - which seems to be the template for many of these threads, and enjoyable to read
Basil
I appreciate i could have navel gazed about an Air 2, but i didn't. I'm a 100% happy consumer of this Apple product (we are part of the Apple family as it is). Maybe on another occasion it might be different.
Thanks for all the initial advice, and then subsequent debate - which seems to be the template for many of these threads, and enjoyable to read
Basil
Mrs.Basil is delighted with her new iPad, and the 'features' her model offers her for the price I paid. I am therefore equally delighted.
I appreciate i could have navel gazed about an Air 2, but i didn't. I'm a 100% happy consumer of this Apple product (we are part of the Apple family as it is). Maybe on another occasion it might be different.
Thanks for all the initial advice, and then subsequent debate - which seems to be the template for many of these threads, and enjoyable to read
Basil
Happy to hear she's happy! That's the important thing.
Thing is, the Air 2 had 2x the RAM and 2x the performance of the Air 1. The split-screen differentiation was justified. However, in this case, there is nothing of the sort.
I think both devices will get discontinued at the same time, just like how the iPad 2 and iPad 3 will.
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Well, I wouldn't call it 'navel-gazing', rather, being a smart buyer. You could've spent that extra $200 on some nice clothes for your wife, rather than Apple Pencil support.Mrs.Basil is delighted with her new iPad, and the 'features' her model offers her for the price I paid. I am therefore equally delighted.
I appreciate i could have navel gazed about an Air 2, but i didn't. I'm a 100% happy consumer of this Apple product (we are part of the Apple family as it is). Maybe on another occasion it might be different.
Thanks for all the initial advice, and then subsequent debate - which seems to be the template for many of these threads, and enjoyable to read
Basil
Either way, you're welcome, I guess
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Stop defending your purchase, and be respectful.
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It has been 4 years & 2 months since that product came out.
You do not need to "be more careful accepting updates", you need to "be more realistic about the length of years a bit of electronics can conceivably still run things quickly". =P
4 years really isn't a long time. You've got 2007 iMacs running the latest version of OS X.
I agree with barkomatic.
These are all facts, the Pro has a nicer screen on many levels and since an iPad is basically a giant screen its something worthwhile to consider. Im trying hard?
You have 8 posts in this thread.
Wow, well done, you can count.
I think the debate is over, stop defending your purchase. You should have just returned your 2GB RAM iPad 'Pro' while you could. It's not my fault!
It wasn't money saving advice, i see no positives in the pro over the 2.
I don't care for pencil support and the bump in processor offers no difference in experience. So other than the speakers (which id never use to play a film or music) whats the benefit?
Ironically you could say the pro is the money saving advise as obsolesces will come to the 2 first. However id just replace it again with something else that works when i needed to replace it.
Everyone has an opinion of whether they find a new feature useful or relevant.
The point is, if it doesn't compromise the device in any way, and you have an unlimited budget, why would you not get the device with more features? Even if you don't find a use for it now, you might have a use for it later. There's no point passing up future potential opportunities if budget isn't an issue.
Now if the reason were, say, because the four-speaker setup makes the iPad Pro 9.7" vibrate more than the iPad Air 2 (I am making this up), or because the battery life of the iPad Air 2 is significantly better, then yes you have a solid reason despite a larger budget.
I fully agree, all opinions should be voiced regardless of direction you are coming from.
But, i'd personally add, and money is no object for me either i still wouldn't buy the pro over the 2, it just doesn't offer anything I'm interested in. But other users/members MMV.
Everyone can and should do as they please, but I'm personally having trouble following the logic of your stance. Even if you don't care about any of the features the Pro offers over the Air (and even assuming your circumstances will never change), and if money is truly taken completely out of the equation, then it's a dead heat at best. You shouldn't care whether you have one or the other because there is absolutely nothing left to distinguish between them. For you to go to the store and actively choose to pick up the Air 2 rather than the Pro, there has to be something about it that you like BETTER--even if it's something as simple as you like the shade of the space grey for the Air 2 a little better. Or maybe you like the excitement of buying new devices, which is why you'd want to set yourself up to have to upgrade sooner (though to others it may be more of a hassle)? If so, sure why not. I'm just looking for any reason you may have to tip the scale in favor of the Air 2, because logically there has to be SOMETHING.
There doesn't have to be anything... They run the same version of iOS, they are the same form factor, they are the same with the exception of the pencil support that i don't want or need, you could argue some "may" not like the true tone, you may not like the camera, you may not like the the double hit on cases with the pro. They are the same, if you remove the pencil... the only thing that would push me to buy one over the other is the capacity... if you need/want 128/256GB then pro is the one. Other than that... i still wouldnt' buy the pro one right now.
The world is full of tick boxes, and simply having another tick is useless if you don't ever want or intend to use the feature. However the features normally give or offer broader appeal to a wider market. if you want a pencil, a better camera or even two tone cases the pro will work. Or just like you said, it you don't, they are equal so why go pro at all.