US Downloads of TikTok and WeChat to Be Banned on Sunday

[justperry]

They aren’t foreign threats from dictatorships. They are under investigation for inauthentic behavior and impacts on democracy. This is well known.

Foreign threats, haha, the USA interferes in other countries politics all the time.

under investigation...as far as I know you are guilty only after being found guilty, guess what, nothing has been proven yet.

 

[ericwn]

So the CCP does this with every foreign company that comes into China (via Chinese law- forced technology transfer, partial ownership, etc), but other countries can't demand the same from Chinese companies?

I find that interesting.

One can of course always attempt to operate a silly eye for eye philosophy but in a country praising freedom of speech a bit more solid evidence before someone is found guilty is the norm.

One sets the standards as high or as low as one needs it seems.

 

[ericwn]

Nice. Now make a law limiting how much data all social media companies can collect and penalize them for lack of action on fake accounts which are only used for inauthentic behavior.

Oh good idea, and one that prohibits spying on your allies like the NSA has in the past. We’re slowly getting somewhere!

 

[ugahairydawgs]

But you're fine with Facebook, a company that has been proven to have been complicit in the interference of American democracy and harvests as much data as Tik Tok, to not be subject to a similar ban, simply because they are a US company? You're fine with the US government having the same level of information on you that the CCP may have access to? Once data is taken, it is almost impossible to protect from being shared or hacked. I promise you that any data of you that has been collected by a US company, has been hacked at least once if not various times by a foreign country (China, Russia, etc.).

You're fine to presume what you like, but as someone who long ago deleted his Facebook profile because of concerns about what they are doing with the data they harvest I'm just going to leave it at you're wrong.

If it were up to me all social media would be banned. The effects the platforms have on the mental and emotional well being of its users is enough for me to say it's a net negative overall. But nobody puts me in charge of that, so I just control what I can and avoid using it myself.

 

[ArPe]

Foreign threats, haha, the USA interferes in other countries politics all the time.

The US interfered because of WWII and the various expansionist threats presented by the Cold War and terrorism. You must be very young to not know this. Today only China is an expansionist threat.

The current US admin’s policy is anti-war and to use soft power diplomacy. Hope that continues with all future elected leaders.

 

[justperry]

Let’s be real, Trump got butthurt he got trolled over tiktok for his Oklahoma rally. That’s what happened.

Exactly, I said that same just a few posts before, seems like some can't stand facts.

 

[JM]

What? This shouldn't be marked as political. NooooooOOOOOOooooooo.

Lol

 

[justperry]

The US interfered because of WWII and the various expansionist threats presented by the Cold War and terrorism. You must be very young to not know this. Today only China is an expansionist threat.

The current US admin’s policy is anti-war and to use soft power diplomacy. Hope that continues with all future elected leaders.

Who said I was talking about WW2, I am grateful for that.

I said interferes all the time, some of them are good, like WW2, but most time it's not.

 

[rgeneral]

So Chinese people in USA buying the iPhone 12 will be unable to download WeChat to talk with their friends and family?

Sounds like more people will buy Samsung phones from now on.

i thought it is banned on any store in US as well.

 

[Substance90]

Every day the USA looks more and more like a typical ex-soviet country run by the mafia. It would actually make sense for USA to buy the Balkans like they did Alaska. It would be a perfect fit politically and culturally.

 

[Donnation]

Now apps are political...Everything in 2020 has to be about a political agenda. Pick a topic, and there is a political argument in it somewhere. I'm honestly sick of it.

 

[rgeneral]

Someone can just create an Apple ID from another country. Wouldn’t it just work. ?

 

[NewUsername]

So this does not apply to Europe at all, right?

 

[ericwn]

Here is another reason why limiting us to only the App Store is bad for consumers.

Well if we Had a million US accounts on other app stores, these wouldn’t be allowed to offer the download either.
The work around for many is a fake ID elsewhere.

 

[justperry]

Someone can just create an Apple ID from another country. Wouldn’t it just work. ?

It should.

So this does not apply to Europe at all, right?

Right, if that was the case all hell would break loose.

 

[ericwn]

The US interfered because of WWII and the various expansionist threats presented by the Cold War and terrorism. You must be very young to not know this. Today only China is an expansionist threat.

The current US admin’s policy is anti-war and to use soft power diplomacy. Hope that continues with all future elected leaders.

True let’s hope that. And let’s close down all military bases outside of that nation A’s home country too - now that would send a sign to be really a to expansionist of any kind.

 

[ericwn]

So this does not apply to Europe at all, right?

Read the title again.

 

[NewUsername]

Soon we'll need a VPN in the US to bypass government censorship for the sake of “national security”. ?

 

[HacKage]

I'd like to see the Trump administration try to ban WeChat, why treat that any different from TikTok? TikTok is an irrelevance, it's laughable to suggest it is a threat to national security. WeChat is pretty much mandatory for anyone with links to China whether that's family or business.

This is all a bit of bluster and distraction from Trump because they haven't yet done a deal with Oracle, one of Trump's friends.

 

[MattG]

Brought to you by "the party of smaller government"

 

[JFazYankees]

You ask this as though they’d have a choice.

Of course they do. Remember the huge Apple vs. FBI case? Apple didn't comply with their orders either...

 

[4jasontv]

You can install apps on Android via means other than the Google Play Store.

There will be ways to install TikTok without much difficulty on Android. iOS users will be forced to jailbreak if they want to download TikTok, which is a PITA and far too much effort for most to be willing to do it.

This is just another reason that Apple shouldn't have a monopoly on iOS App Installations. It creates a single vulnerability point where a government can do a random power grab and remove apps from the system.

This isn’t going to be simply removed from the App Store. Their IP address will be blocked. No device, with the app or with the app side loaded, will be able to connect to their servers. The app will be unusable in the US. Eventually.

 

[GermanSuplex]

One half-full rally and now this...

 

[ericwn]

Soon we'll need a VPN in the US to bypass government censorship for the sake of “national security”.

WMDs all over again.

 

[bobbie424242]

"Buuuuuuuuuut... it is Apple store ! It can do what it wants !" /s