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US Probes UK's Apple Encryption Demand for Possible Treaty Violation
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Pulling out of the UK would be an option of last resort for Apple. The UK government needs to take a different, less aggressive approach than what they’re doing now. Otherwise they may be endangering their economy.
This “request” under the revised Investigatory Powers Act seems a massive and clumsy overreach, and speaks volumes about the current state of relations and effective collaboration between certain buildings in Gloucestershire and Maryland.
Labour supported the passing of the act. Some individual Labour MPs opposed it but overall the party voted for it alongside the Conservative government of the time. Lib Dems and Greens opposed it.
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I’ve cancelled all iCloud subs for my family. I’ll set my own up.
There is one big uni party/synarchistic model operating in the UK, which is evident by looking at most of the major issues of past years. The quicker people see past the absolute theatre that is Labour vs Tory, the better.
Labour were no opposition when the Tories locked the country down for a supposed virus that was no worse than seasonal flu with an IFR of 0.096%. Both have allowed our borders to be infiltrated by saying they’d do something, then do NOTHING. Both have pledged billions of taxpayer money, fighting foreign wars.
Labour MP Mike Amesbury walked free this week after having his 10-week sentence suspended, after DOING something nasty (beating up a member of the public). Video footage shows him throwing the first punch and continuing the attack whilst the bloke was in the floor.
Yet, the wife of a Tory councillor, Lucy Connolly, SAID something nasty on Twitter, deleted it and then received a 2yr 7 month sentence.
No wonder the name Two Tier Keir sticks.
Here, Keir Starmer says he’s not interested in reaching across into US systems. Outright LIES. After all, what are we discussing now?
There is one big uni party/synarchistic model operating in the UK, which is evident by looking at most of the major issues of past years. The quicker people see past the absolute theatre that is Labour vs Tory, the better.
Labour were no opposition when the Tories locked the country down for a supposed virus that was no worse than seasonal flu with an IFR of 0.096%. Both have allowed our borders to be infiltrated by saying they’d do something, then do NOTHING. Both have pledged billions of taxpayer money, fighting foreign wars.
Labour MP Mike Amesbury walked free this week after having his 10-week sentence suspended, after DOING something nasty (beating up a member of the public). Video footage shows him throwing the first punch and continuing the attack whilst the bloke was in the floor.
Yet, the wife of a Tory councillor, Lucy Connolly, SAID something nasty on Twitter, deleted it and then received a 2yr 7 month sentence.
No wonder the name Two Tier Keir sticks.
Here, Keir Starmer says he’s not interested in reaching across into US systems. Outright LIES. After all, what are we discussing now?
Not sure which planet you live in to claim the Tories took payments from Putin... actually the banks of London were happily laundering Russian dirty money. I expect some still do.
The US would had become the despicable UK had Trump not won. Thank God he did and great job Tulsi!!
“if only I had everyone’s Social Security number I could finally buy nice things” - Elon Musk
It’s like get real dude.
I use ADP. I enabled it the moment it was available, and I've been happy ever since. Now that I'm aware the UK government wants to be able to access my data, I'm thinking of not using iCloud anymore, and implementing my own E2EE solution. (And, obviously, I won't ever vote for a Labour government.)
Don’t think it matters who you vote for darkpaw… Joint ‘rule’ by the main parties, it seems.
May I ask which E2EE solution you’ve been looking at? Ive heard about NextCloud and Synology. I want something reliable and secure, obviously.
A US government with Trump at the top ... looking into others for violations of an agreement ... is rich
Really really, thick and creamy "rich"
Really really, thick and creamy "rich"
No idea yet. I want a solution that I buy and that's it. I don't want to be paying subscriptions. Also, anything by Proton is out.
I’m sorry but I think you’re kidding yourself that labour aren’t happy about this. All governments are. They could have equally started a review process to dismiss, postponed, or be acting to overturn. None of the above is happening to my knowledge.
The uk doesn’t believe in privacy, broadly, and cyber monitoring is huge here.
The uk doesn’t believe in privacy, broadly, and cyber monitoring is huge here.
Correct. Labour tried to introduce ID cards years ago. The big one is Digital IDs… I want none of it. I like to use cash, keep things simple and wish to be left alone. We’ve been conditioned to think that it is countries like China that have little to no freedom of expression and are surveilled and monitored 24/7. We need a great awakening.
Regarding the ‘opposition’, the tories are no better. As I said previously, joint rule is how our country has operated for many a year. There’s us and them… All 650 MPs need replaced with people that have real world experience and THEY are the ones who should be monitored for loyalty, corruption, and infiltration by outside organisations and foreign entities. Banning the shaky-hand gang from office, would be a cracking start, but difficult to achieve.
I returned my iPhone. One of the key selling points for Apple was its commitment to user privacy. If they're going to buckle as soon as the UK govt puts some pressure on, I can't support them.
I know they didn't create a backdoor as requested, but it's akin to someone asking for a key to your house, you refusing but leaving all the doors unlocked.
The amount of ‘cosying up’ to Trump and donations to his inauguration has caused me to change my purchasing decisions here in the UK. In the last week I have unsubscribed from Adobe CC, Amazon Prime and I’m now on a trial of Qobuz to see if I will ditch our family subscription to Apple Music. There will doubtless be many considering similar actions all over Europe. I subscribed to Adobe CC and Apple Music from day 1. Now looking at NAS solutions so I can do the same with iCloud since the UK government demanded an end to Apple’s encryption offering.
They can if it involves encryption as far as computing on a per country law basis. So if you a visitor the rule doesn’t apply but not a permanent deployment in said county, then the computers involved cannot have storage encrypted. For example India prohibited encryption. But not iPhones as a example. This asking for cloud encryption to be accessible is partially allowing some storage and communication in the cloud to be accessible which is new.
That's a bit of an exaggeration imo. Standard iCloud security measures are still present, which is what I suspect more than 90% of people use anyway. A more apt analogy is you're being denied the ability to install a high end security system in your home, and are having to make do with a mediocre one.
Out of interest, what phone will you switch too now that you're no longer satisfied with Apple on user privacy?
I know what you're going to say: OneDrive and Google Drive are less secure than iCloud even without ADP.
But I'll be saving all my data on device. Sure, you can do that on iPhone but it's always trying to get you to sync your data, and the file system on iOS is garbage compared to Android.
The same request for a back door has likely been demanded of all the major tech companies. What will you do when you discover that Google and Microsoft have capitulated?
Like I said, I'm going to keep everything on device and not save to any cloud. I only saved to iCloud because it was more secure than the rest.